Welcome back everyone it's Charlie this is going to be my new spider-man video the
original writer of the movie came out and just explained what his original
super dark ending for the movie was going to be a bunch of deleted scenes in
an alternate storyline for that first trilogy as well as what the story
through spider-man 6 was going to be that's right they were originally
planning six different spider-man movies so we'll break it all down if you're
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there's a lot of alternate story and deleted scenes here all just number two
these differently as we go along but this goes all the way back to Sam Raimi
and Tobey Maguire's spider-man so the original writer of that first
spider-man movie David Koepp was doing an interview for a couple other movies
in during that he talked about the original plans for those first
spider-man trilogy that he had mapped out and it was going to be way more Empire
Strikes Back in his own words way darker way different villain layout then when I
initially talked about them doing six movies with Tobey Maguire's spider-man
he was actually going to come back later and do three more movies for Sony before
things changed again so I'll explain all those but originally during the first
movie one of the biggest changes would have been they would have started with
gwen stacy in the green goblin saga from the comics where there was no Mary Jane
yet in Peter Parker's first relationship after he became spider-man and got the
spider bite was with gwen stacy just like it was in the comics then at the
end of the first movie it would have been gwen stacy that the green goblin
throws off the bridge like he does at the end of the theatrical cut with Mary
Jane and her neck would have been snapped when spider-man tries to catch
her just like it happened in the comics a much much darker ending to that first
movie originally Stan Lee explained that the reason why they killed off gwen
stacy this way is because they felt like mary jane was a more complex character
and they wanted to introduce her to the forefront so in order to do that they
felt like the best solution was to kill off the gwen stacy character eventually
the studio did do a version of this story line during amazing spider-man 2
with Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone but in the original version of events with
Tobey Maguire spider-man that would have led to spider-man 2 starting off in a
much darker place like he mentions Empire Strikes Back in terms of the
trilogy for Spider man has been way more shaken up after a
Gwen Stacy's death but he's just starting to develop a relationship with
Mary Jane then the villains that he fought in the
subsequent spider-man movies would have still been coerced sinister six villains
but the order of the villains and which members of the sinister six that he
fought at each different time would have been a little bit different like in
spider-man 2 he faces Doctor Octopus in the
theatrical cut with a little development on the Harry Osborn Green Goblin arc but
originally Sony had actually planned to do way way more villains this is
starting to sound familiar so it would have been Doctor Octopus the lizard
black cat and even more Harry Osborn Green Goblin then was originally in the
movie instead of calling it spider-man 2 they would have called it the amazing
spider-man and Doctor Octopus was going to be very different he was going to be a
much younger version of the character he was going to be revealed as the person
who created the genetically altered spider that gave spider-man his powers
he would have also been in a love triangle with Mary Jane and Peter Parker
his spine still becomes fused to the tentacle harness like it did in the
theatrical cut but it starts to kill him slowly and he would have tried to take
spider-man's spine to replace his so you can see how much darker they had planned
to take the spider-man movies then a much more comic-book accurate version of
the Harry Osborn Green Goblin would have teamed up with him to fight spider-man
and take out a ten million dollar bounty on his head in The Daily Bugle with Jay
jonah Jameson it was actually Sam Raimi that revealed that he'd changed the
Doctor Octopus storyline for the theatrical cut it was his idea to make
him Peter Parker's hero as a scientist before he becomes Doctor Octopus he
wanted the big final battle to be more about Peter trying to save him from his
demons rather than just trying to kill him they kind of replicated that
relationship for the spider-man ps4 game with Peter Parker being one of doctor
octopus's students at Empire State University in the tragic villain turned
during the movie and then the big final battle was also kind of similar to then
by the time we get to spider-man 3 originally in the alternate storyline it
would have led to a more climactic sinister six style team up with a bigger
more comic-book accurate version of the Harry Osborn Green Goblin they were
always going to do Sandman because Sam Raimi just really obsessed with the
Sandman character and originally before they decided on including the venom
character they were going to do the vulture and he
would have been played by get it Ben Kingsley later we all saw Ben Kingsley
showed up in the Marvel movies as the fake Trevor version of the Mandarin he
also came back in the Marvel one-shot from Iron Man 3 called all hail the king
just as a way for Marvel to tease the real Mandarin which we're all actually
going to see next year in a Marvel phase 4 movie Shang Chi and The Legend of the ten
rings that's going to be Marvel's Big Spring movie next year they were always
planning on doing a version of the venom storyline but originally it was very
different and merely just spider-man getting the symbiote this is when they
were still planning on doing four to six spider-man movies with Tobey Maguire so
presumably their intent with spider-man 4 would have been to introduce a version
of Eddie Brock then give him the symbiote during that the theatrical cut
of spider-man 3 combines a couple different venom stories from the
symbiote saga spider-man gets the symbiote during Secret Wars then learns
about it during subsequent amazing spider-man stories then way down the
line they do the famous church scene where he gets rid of it and then
separately in another story when they started doing the venom solo title they
reckoned that a little bit instead that Eddie Brock had been there at the church
when that was happening and that's how he got the symbiote and became comic
book venom so spider-man 3 just sort of crammed a ton of different Venom
symbiote stories into that one movie then when they were still planning on
doing 4 to 6 Tobey Maguire spider-man movies they would have also done Venom's
spin-offs that's where you get to toxin a lot of the other crazier versions of
the symbiotes like carnage Sam Raimi then said right after they finished
spider-man 3 that was one that talks about Sony doing back-to-back shoots for
spider-man 4 and spider-man 5 were happening with Tobey Maguire in the
exact same production team that's right they were initially planning on doing an
Avengers infinity war in Avengers endgames situation with Tobey Maguire's
spider-man and that's also when they hired the screenwriter to plot out
through spider-man 6 with Tobey Maguire just to give you an idea for how far out
they were thinking about his story it would have slowly turned him into what
Ironman became in the MCU or even like Hugh Jackman's Wolverine somebody who
played the character for way more than 10 years when Sam Raimi was talking
about spider-man 4 in spider-man 5 he was making a lot of comparisons to Peter
Jackson doing the Lord of the Rings trilogy because he filmed all those
movies back-to-back the story for spider-man 4 at that point
was them going back to the vulture character as the main villain he would
have been a very different version from the comics he would have been played by
John Malkovich he would have been revealed is a relative of Mary Jane's
taking control of the Daily Bugle from Jay jonah Jameson they were going to
introduce a version of Anne Hathaway as Felicia Hardy who instead of becoming
the black cat would have actually become a female version of the vulture the
reason why they said they did that instead of doing black cat is because
they felt like she would have become too much of a copy of the Catwoman character
which is hilarious because Anne Hathaway would then go on just a little while
after that to be Catwoman they would have finally gone full lizard with Curt
Connors from the previous movies and then they would have revealed bruce
campbell as a version of the Quentin Beck Mysterio
there are even story boards for a lot of this - I don't know how they would have
explained the previous versions of bruce campbell that had cameo scenes in the
other spider-man movies but the reason why spider-man for spider-man 5 and
spider-man 6 fell apart and why Sony decided to reboot the character was
mostly because Sam Raimi said that he felt creatively exhausted and didn't
think that they could make the planned release date for spider-man 4 that Sony
had said so he backed out of the project and that's when the house of cards
started to fold Tobey Maguire then backed out and that was pretty much it
in Walsh Sony was planning spider-man 4 5 & 6 with the new rider in the new team
separately they were also hedging their bets with a reboot in a recast of
spider-man that's why they were so quick to announce Andrew Garfield's amazing
spider-man right after Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire left the project it had
already been in the works for a long time that's just the way the studio's
operate they always have contingency plans in case directors back out actors
back out that's how Marvel was able to announce
Sam Raimi as the new director of Doctor Strange to multiverse of madness so
quickly after scott derrickson backed out earlier this year let me know in the
comments though what do you think about the alternate darker spider-man
storyline the darker version of the Venom symbiote saga and the alternate
plans for what Tobey Maguire spider-man would have been you have to keep in mind
though if they hadn't made it through all 6 of those spider-man films that
would have taken them up into modern day MCU through Civil War and it would have
been Tobey Maguire spider-man crossing over with the Avengers instead of Tom
Hollands spider-man there was even a deleted scene from that first Ironman
post-credit scene where Nick Puri references spider-man that was
going to be Toby's spider-man for those of you that really want to see him come
back in a cameo scene at some point Lord and Miller revealed that they tried to
bring back both Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield with Tom Holland for cameos in
the first spider-man into the spider-verse movie but they claimed that
Sony shot them down on the grounds that they felt like it was too soon to do
something like that spider-man into the spider verse two is coming out in 2022
hopefully by then they'll say yes and bring them back but there's also talk of
doing a live-action spider-man into the spider verse in the fact that Sam Raimi
is making new Marvel movies again I am sure at some point we'll see some
classic Tobey Maguire spider-man Easter eggs and maybe even a cameo scene at
some point there's also the easter egg from the Morbius trailer with the
spider-man wall mural it's actually Tobey Maguire's costume but it's from a
spider-man game and it's referencing the Tom Hollands spider-man from the end of
spider-man far from home there's also bus advertisements for
spider-man in the Daily Bugle in its Tobey Maguire's version of The Daily
Bugle so there is a lot of Tobey Easter eggs in the Morbius movie right now but
that could be a misdirect they'll be filming Tom Hollands Marvel's
spider-man 3 later this year so there'll be some news about that coming up I'll
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