Hi again it's Jason from Fraser Valley Rose Farm and today I want to talk about the difference
between the climbing roses on the one hand and the rambling roses on the other. Climbers and ramblers -
these terms are used almost interchangeably and somewhat confusingly so i'm going to go right to
the core of the difference is that the climbing roses the modern climbers as i may call them
are usually repeat blooming flowers they can bloom in the late spring all the way through summer
and then into fall and heck they'll keep on blooming so long as there's enough energy
from the sun and temperature to keep on going the ramblers are a different beast typically most of
those will bloom like their wild relatives once in a year usually late spring or early summer they'll
have this massive flush of cluster flowers and then they'll be done for the season and
they won't bloom anymore so it's cultivated versus less cultivated and those modern hybrids can have
access to a wider range of colors the climbers can come in things like strong orange true deep red
mixes of colors blends of colors by colors so they get the advantage when it comes to stronger and
wider range of colors typically the ramblers come in ranges of white pink yellow those are natural
tones for roses and then things between those in subtle more subtle shades with a few exceptions so
color wise the climbers have the advantage next thing is about size usually your modern
climbers will between be between 8 and say 15 feet typically in size the ramblers can be much
much larger than that you can take 30 feet of your back fence and put it out to seven sisters it'll
swallow the whole thing up or they'll scramble up a tree and bloom in giant clusters as i've seen
so yeah it can be a much much larger rose other things fragrance it's mixed on both some
some hybrids have the uh have great scent and some have almost done it all and some of the ramblers
have a really good scent too in terms of hardiness it's a mixed bag i would give the slight advantage
to the ramblers just because they have typically closer relations to their wild relatives
so they're usually a little more hardy but there are exceptions to that as well so with those
being the main differences one of them being quite cultivated and repeat blooming and more like the
hybrid tees in the floribundas and one being more like the wild relatives let's get specifically
into some examples from both the climbers and the ramblers here's something interesting about the
breeding of climbing roses they are not a breed of roses they're a behavior or a growing habit
if you look at the family tree of roses where it describes how each class is related to the other
the climbers don't belong anywhere on that list because they actually come from all parts of that
you can have climbers from amongst the miniatures the hybrid tees the floribundas the nozzettes the
bourbons all of these different classes of roses have climbers from within them and typically what
happens is as they breed roses sometimes you will have a regular shrub sized rose and then there
will be a sport one stem of that rose that jumps up and is just much much larger than the others
it's clearly a genetic mutation spontaneous within the plant so they take a cutting of that and then
they root it and it ends up being a climber and stable and then they save that as a climbing
variation from one of these roses that's one way it can come other times they're just climbers from
birth but that's the that's the thing is they're not a breed of roses or a class of roses they're
a behavior of roses so i'm going to give you some examples here that highlight that fact
the first one i want to bring up is a rose called 'Laura Ford' which is a climbing miniature which
sounds like a complete contradiction how can it be miniature and a climber well the flowers are
miniature and the breeding is from the miniature roses the polyanthes and the minis but it is a
climber up to about eight feet next one i want to talk about is 'Leverkusen' and 'Leverkusen' would
exemplify ones that are bred from the floribunda group and this one has i think it's a Kordes rose
it has those shiny leaves the third one i want to talk about switching colors now into sort of a
silvery pink is 'Aloha' I'mm talking here about the 1949 version i think there have been
other versions in the meantime but this climber just has a kick you in the face kind of scent
and great well-formed flowers and it's from within the hybrid tea group of roses next up i wanted to
go to the grandifloras 'Queen Elizabeth' is the original grand of flora and from my video i did
a couple weeks ago on the hybrid tees versus the flora bundes this is a hybrid between the two of
them where it has both cluster flowering and large flowers and queen elizabeth is in that mid pink
range really well formed blooms and just broke the mold uh compared to the other roses that were out
at the time finally i'll talk about my last choice of of climber is 'Alister Stella Grey' this one is
in the group of Noisettes and this makes it kind of highlights the next point i'm going to make is
that the lines can be blurred between the climbers and the ramblers 'Alister Stella Grey' was called a
climber because it's repeat blooming other names for it are 'Golden Rambler' and you're going to
find that the noisettes are sort of in that range because of their parentage of having multiflora
as a prominent parent so do the ramblers and so the cluster flowering makes it look a lot more
like a rambler even though some people class it as a climber on to the ramblers here since the
modern climbers are pretty much picked and chosen from amongst the other modern classes of roses
i'll say that the ramblers are pretty much defined by their close genetic relationships with some of
the wild roses most particularly you're going to find that they're related to rosa multiflora
rosa sempervirens rosa setigera and rosa
wichurana so the first one i want to talk about here is related to the multifloras and this one
is a rose called 'Bleu Magentra' which is uh a lot darker than the other ramblers in terms of its
color it's almost a true purple which makes it kind of special in my mind again a large rambler
put the sizes up on the screen as well at the same time but the multiflora ramblers always bloom in
clusters i probably don't even need to say that about the rest of the ramblers and the next one
i want to talk about is another multiflora rambler called 'Goldfinch' which is really really well known
for its strong yellow color and again a charming rambler third one coming from a different group
from the y corana group is 'Albertine' and 'Albertine' has one of those wonderful apricot colors i always
look for the apricot colors and roses it's just one of my favorites and that's a personal bias
so albertine is one of my favorites next up is a rose that's actually coming into growth in my
garden right now in a big way maybe i'll get a picture here it's called 'Heaven's Eye' and
this is a Geshwind rambler with a darker center to the flower and lighter outside petals really
excellent breeding and a really strong performer in the garden next one i want to talk about is
'American Pillar' and 'American Pillar' does take on sort of a stronger pink color and i favor the
stronger colors so it deserves a spot on this list and because of its pliable canes and the fact that
it blooms across everywhere it blooms strongly it is an excellent subject for pillaring which
is of course why they called it american pillar next up i wanted to mention adelaide de orlean
that one is a sempervirens hybrid i'll put up some pictures of adelaide early on as well and finally
i want to talk about lady banks rose or rosa bank ci and this is one of those cases where it is a
i think a straight species or a species that was cultivated for some time in china so it's become
a very double rose and it has these golden yellow flowers that i like a lot and uh just
a very expansive rose so you can this this one give it some space for sure all right that's all i
had to say about the climbers versus the ramblers in the garden i'll go in and edit it now and add
some pictures but if you have any questions in the meantime about the climbers or the
rambling roses please drop those down below in the comments the video i'll see what i can do to help