Voiceover: So we were going to do a comparison
of two great Proto-Renaissance masters,
Cimabue and Giotto and compare them by looking at
two paintings of the Madonna Enthroned
so exactly the same subject.
Voiceover: These are both in the Uffizi in Florence,
but originally, of course, they were altar paintings,
panels which are very large.
In fact, the Cimabue is -
Voiceover: More than 12 feet.
Voiceover: Yeah, it's 12 feet tall, it's huge,
and that was so that it could be seen
the full distance of the church nave.
Voiceover: And the Giotto too is more than 10 feet high.
Voiceover: The Cimabue is a little earlier
and Cimbue is the very first artist
that Vasari talks about at the very beginning
of this incredible tradition of Italian painting.
Voiceover: So Cimbue is really seen to make
the first step away from a medieval style
toward a more human focused Renaissance style.
Voiceover: Yeah, and there's a lot of controversy
and interest in terms of why the Renaissance
has its roots at this particular moment
in this particular place.
I mean, why in Florence and why right here
at the end of the 13th century?
And one of the theories that's been put forward
is pressure that was being felt in
the Byzantine Empire to the east by Islam
and some of the artists perhaps fleeing
the great traditions of the east and coming to Italy
and perhaps prompting it to think beyond
the traditions of the medieval.
Voiceover: The first thing to say is that
this is just a really standard subject
that we see all the time, Mary, the mother of Christ,
holding the Christ child, surrounded by angels,
and/or saints and prophets, lots and lots of gold.
These are tempera paintings on wooden panels.
Voiceover: It's egg tempera and it's using minerals
that are suspended in that egg media.
It's good for little lines.
It doesn't blend well, it dries quickly,
and so there's a really linear aspect
to this painting which may in some respects
result from the tempera.
This is gold that's been flattened out.
Voiceover: Pounded very thin. Voiceover: It's a very-
thin gold leaf and, in fact, even tooled,
that is to say patterns have been pounded in
to make it even more interesting.
Voiceover: And it's been glued onto the wooden panel.
Voiceover: It's been burnished
and sometimes there's a kind of clay layer underneath
which you can sometimes see a little reddish,
but the gold itself is really meant as
this ornamental reflective material that
had a symbolic quality in that it was
meant to reflect the light of heaven.
Voiceover: Neither of these are set
in any kind of earthly realm.
The flat gold background indicates a kind of
divine, heavenly space for these figures to occupy.
Voiceover: And that makes sense when
you think of the Cimbue because the Madonna,
for instance, she's so - I guess maybe because
she's defined by line, if she stood up,
she would be so tall.
Voiceover: She would be very elongated
and her drapery is defined by line primarly
and not as much by modeling from
light to dark although a little bit.
Voiceover: There are some distinct medieval
or Byzantine elements that are still visible here.
Her fingers are very long, her mouth is very small,
the nose is very long, a kind of symbolism of the body,
not a representation of a real person so much
as a representation of a kind of ideal heavenly form.
Voiceover: The angels are all stacked kind of -
Voiceover: It's a good thing -
they have wings, isn't it?
Because what are they standing on?
Voiceover: I don't know, but we do begin to get
some sense of the beginnings of an illusion
of space in Cimabue.
Voiceover: She's got a little modeling under her chin
and you're right, the throne on which she sits
does sort of receive - except here's the funny thing.
When you look at the throne carefully,
it looks as if we're looking across at the Virgin Mary
but we're looking down at the seat
on which she's seated and in some ways
we're also looking up at her.
There's not a single perspective or point
in which the viewer is situated.
Voiceover: We have sort of multiple viewpoints
and that's something that, of course,
will disappear more than a century later
when we get to Brunelleschi
and the early Renaissance.
Voiceover: But I'm not comfortable with
the idea that Cimabue couldn't do it.
Voiceover: No.
Voiceover: So what about the four figures underneath?
Voiceover: It's interesting that they're
behind there to show some illusion of space.
Voiceover: And it kind of frames them as well.
Voiceover: It does and they're adorable
down there, those prophets.
You can always tell the prophets
'cause they're holding scrolls.
Voiceover: Okay, so these are Old Testament prophets.
Voiceover: Right, who would have predicted
the coming of a Messiah, of a Christ.
Voiceover: And here in the Catholic tradition,
of course, that would have been understood
as Christ, as you said.
Voiceover: Let's look over now at the Giotto
because things have really changed.
The Madonna just looks so massive,
and bulky, and look at how her hips and her thighs -
Voiceover: And her knee -
Voiceover: Yep.
Voiceover: Her breasts and her knees.
Voiceover: And look at how differently
the drapery is indicated.
Instead of by these tiny lines, right,
we now have real modeling from light to dark
to indicate her knees and her lap,
and even how the drapery pulls across
her chest and her breasts.
Voiceover: Looking back at the Cimabue now,
the Madonna looks so thin,
almost as if she's a paper cutout,
and the Giotto looks so substantial, so solid.
It's also interesting if you compare the angels
because in the Cimabue, in the earlier painting,
the angels are stacked up,
they don't sort of respond to gravity,
and they're also all very similar.
They're sort of an idealized face.
But if you look at the angels in the Giotto rendering
from a few decades later,
actually what's really interesting is Giotto
was willing to put the angels in back of each other,
even obscuring their faces.
Voiceover: And the way that they sort of
seem to go back behind the throne,
he's peeking his head through in the back there.
Voiceover: And yeah, the prophets aren't in
some sort of impossible basement now.
Voiceover: And look at how much more modeling
is in her face and in her neck.
Voiceover: There's one aspect of the painting by Giotto
that I think is really significant and really interesting.
In the Giotto, there's a very particular
single point that the viewer is looking at this from.
If you look, for instance, at the steps
moving up to the Virgin, you're looking down
at the top of the step clearly
so you know your eye is above that.
But you're also looking up at the ceiling of the throne
so you're somewhere in between
and, in fact, you're looking down at the seat,
but you'll notice that just where
the prophets' chins are, that's where everything
sort of is exactly horizontal so that's
the line at our height and that makes sense
because that would put us just below Christ,
a nice humble position.
There's a kind of left-right axis too
which is to say that I think we can see
a little bit more of the right window
so I think we're facing Christ.
Voiceover: This begins to situate the viewer.
Voiceover: This is not linear perspective.
Voiceover: It's kind of a more awareness of
the human presence in front of the painting.
Voiceover: I think that's exactly right.
Voiceover: You know, one of the things that
I like to think about is how similar these
two images are despite their differences
and the ways in which the understanding
of originality was so entirely different
than in our own culture.
Voiceover: Right, so this is not so much
derivative in a negative sense as we might think.
Voiceover: In fact, there was a real tradition
of the ways that you represent these figures
because these are holy figures.
Voiceover: That makes sense and also
this is very universal.
This is something that then says
it transcends time, it transcends space.
Voiceover: Right, but even within that,
Giotto is still creating this new image because obviously
things are beginning to change in the early 1300s.
Voiceover: But he must be responding to cultural changes.
That is, putting an emphasis on the here and now.
Voiceover: And on the human, right.
Voiceover: In a way that will, of course,
blossom into the Renaissance.
Voiceover: Exactly.