One thing that we could do with a lightsaber that we can't do with a sword is
if my opponent doesn't know that I have a lightsaber
I have it hidden behind my robe or something
and he attacks me with a strike to my head
I could sidestep
Take out my lightsaber
and simply turn it on
The act of turning it on will stab him
Welcome back Everyone to Scenic Fights' Fight Scene Breakdown
Star Wars Edition!
I'm Logan Lo
I'm here with Chad Vázquez
Today in honor of the current Star Wars' trilogy
We'll be comparing and contrasting
The combat design of a lightsaber versus a sword
We'll also be looking at the fight scene between
Kylo Ren and Rey
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[Logan] Just lot of like
[Logan] Big arcing motions
[Logan] One question is
[Logan] Why doesn't Kylo Ren just pull Finn into the hand-guard also called a quillon
[Logan] rather than bringing the quillon to Finn, because he has The Force.
There are a number of things right now that Kylo Ren
could have done differently
again in the scene
he forced in the quillon into Finn's shoulder
but what he could have done, is he could have
had Finn come in with The Force
and cut him
or he could've simply side-step and slashed his throat while still defending himself
or
he could have simply come in and slashed the wrist with the quillon
while also taking out his other shoulder
[Logan] You see that? That kind of show the power of the lightsaber
[Logan] It can cut through wood that easily
[Logan] Really nice flow with the fighting, but it's kind of broadsword-ish
So we're gonna start off by talking about the design differences
between a sword and a lightsaber
here we have a wooden training saber.
What defines a saber is that
it's edged on one side with dull spine on the back
and then two flat sides
You can see that there's really only two areas that are lethal
the point
and the edge
now here we have a lightsaber
every part of this is dangerous.
Here we have Kylo Ren's lightsaber
Notice, it's the same design except with the addition of the two hand-guards called the quillon
The quillon changes how he holds it
and how it can be used both offensively and defensively
Because Kylo Ren's sword is designed like a broadsword.
You would expect him to hold it like a broadsword
You would either hold it two hands like this
two hands like this which obviously he cannot do
or two hands like this on the very base or pommel of the sword
and the reason why is because he has greater control over it this way
A broadsword is generally longer than many other weapons.
So this additional control on the bottom allows him greater maneuverability
[Logan] Nice little parrying.
[Logan] so you can see how close they are with the lightbsaber
[Logan] One can assume then that they aren't generating a lot of heat.
[Logan] Once again, super close.
[Logan] One of them should just do something.
Kylo Ren didn't actually want to kill Rey
After all he's basically talking to her right now about teaching her
because there's a number of things he could have done
He could have stepped back and tipped in
He could have also slashed in with the quillon taking off her arm
essentially cutting right through her arm
or
Come across with the same quillon like this
and slashed into her throat once again
for Rey
She could've also simply angled
by simply stepping
noticed that she could've cut Kylo Ren's head
or
she could have let go
Parried
come across
and done her stab that she's been wanting so badly
[Logan] She's just using it as a cudgel which makes sense because she's been trained in the bō staff.
[Logan] so she's using this sword kinda almost with these big heavy swings, just like a bō staff.
Now you'll note that both Rey and Finn tend to hold the lightsaber the same way
They both hold it with two handed grip
and they both kind of swing it like a baseball bat or a cudgel
Big arcing motions
where they're really putting a lot of force and effort into it.
They're coming down
they're swinging
Rey does a lot of these type of stabs
because she's basically trying to stab
which makes sense again because she has a background in the bō staff
and there is this kind of
control
Stab like that
[Logan] lots of telegraphing
[Logan] Again, she's using it kind of like a bō staff
[Logan] She's lifting it really high over her head
[Logan] to try to bring it down over Kylo Ren's head
Rey who only has experience with the bō staff
Basically uses it like a bō staff.
She has these big
Arcing motions, where she's trying to generate a lot of power
She actually doesn't need a lot of power because again, the entire thing is lethal
You don't even need the force that you would need for a razor blade
You can just literally touch someone and you've cut them
but she does in fact go all the way back
But all Kylo Ren has to do is just touch her stomach.
Doesn't even need to stab
just touch her stomach and she's dead
[Logan] Okay now we have the standoff kind of like that breakdown we did with Under Siege
[Logan] where each opponent is grabbing the other opponent's wrist.
[Logan] The moment this happens the first one to attack usually wins the fight
Even though Kylo Ren just took a blaster hit to the shoulder.
He still should be strong enough to overpower Rey
However, even if he wasn't, all he would have had to do would be to
step away from the weapon
and come across and either slash
or
Do a disarm here
For Rey
Rey forced his weapon into the ground
but instead of forcing the weapon into the ground
she could've simply just side step and chopped off his head
or
Come around
Slammed his hand
and used that Force to disarm him
by taking away the weapon
maybe that's what was happening in the scene
They were also physically fighting but also fighting with The Force
we don't know
For this I would give it a B+
The fight makes sense, right?
You have people like Finn and Rey who have had no experiences with lightsabers
Using it the way I think someone that had no training would
like a baseball bat
just wildly swinging
Or Rey, who's been experienced with the bō staff, using it like a cudgel, right?
She's like just whacking away
doing these gross motions
You were seeing something that we didn't see in the previous trilogies
In the first set of trilogies
You saw two older actors
playing two older gentlemen in universe
so they did a lot of Kendo movements
very methodical
not great movements
still lethal movements
In this trilogy
We're seeing them use something, we haven't seen before
We're seeing them used Hema stuff
which is historically European martial arts
with the broadsword
Reason why I didn't give it an A
is because there could have been better use of The Force, I feel
There could've also been better use of the lightsaber as a lightsaber
as something that is lethal
from 360 degrees
and also with the tip
by not using more of The Force
by not using the lightsaber as a lightsaber and not a sword.
I felt that it was more of B, B+ rather than an A
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