can you respond Carrie to what's
happening in New York State to President
to Governor Cuomo announcing that its
prisoners who are gonna create are gonna
make what he called New York clean and
now people know around the country the
shortage of Purell right now explain
what that is and if the prisoners
themselves would get to use it and what
it means for prisoners to be making an
essential product like that and what
they're being paid so in New York
prisons the average pay is around 60 to
63 cents an hour and I think it's men at
Great Meadow that are gonna be producing
this you know there's a lot of prison
industries that are making things like
license plates and stuff but you know
that means that we have a lot of you
know predominantly black and brown
people who are being paid less than a
dollar an hour and if you don't go to
work you typically get a ticket you get
written up you face the possibility of
punishment so you know I think that's a
sort of a dynamic we need to be aware of
when we're thinking of how this plays
out
but also in the case of something like
you know Purell or the state equivalents
of Purell it's got alcohol in it and I
see that when he announced this Governor
Cuomo said that it would be available in
schools and prisons and I've been you
know asking the prison system since then
if they were going to allow inmates use
it because when I was there you know
when I when I did time in prison you're
not allowed to have alcohol-based hand
sanitizer and you know from looking at
the rules that they still have online it
doesn't look like alcohol-based hand
sanitizer is allowed and you know so far
the prison system has been ignoring my
questions and questions from other
reporters about whether they're going to
change that and actually allow prisoners
to utilize the product that they're
making for less than a dollar an hour
you