Chris here back taking a look at some mini pcs so this is an intel powered one
with 11th gen in it and it's from a company called Minisforum they sent this out to me
to review it's their elite mini tl50 now the tl50 has the core i5 1135 g7 and iris xe graphics with
its 80 executional cores which is a big step up for integrated graphics performance especially
coming from intel and it's a welcomed change now this model here has 12 gigabytes a ddr4 ram
512 gigabyte ssd which is mvme it ships with windows 10 pro has dual gigabit lan ports
on here wi-fi six which is the ax200 card from intel with bluetooth five it can also take
two additional 2.5 inch drives on this inside the box you will find a guide we have a bracket here
and two cables for our sata 3 drive so it will take two 2.5 inch drives which is really good
not a lot of mini pcs can do that here is our visa bracket and some screws to mount that behind a tv
or monitor then we have an hdmi cable our power supply this one is rated to 65 watts
and it is using a type c connector so a little different normally we have the dc
round barrel plug but not this time and then an eu power cable so depending on the model you order
what region that will be a us uk or euro plug the back here is where we have the bulk of our
connections so two usb twos two usb threes gen one 2.5 gigabit lan and another 2.5 gigabit lan so
very fast lan on this and two of them which is great so you could use this say as a file server
a server now i've got display port this is 1.4 a and hdmi 2.0 so both of these are 4k 60 our
kingzington lock slot right there and then the 9 volts 65 watts total power in there for that
with the type c power supply that is supplied and we have power armor status led behind it two
microphones so these are dual ray mics another two usb 3.0 gen1 ports here and this is type c usb 3.1
and that's display out 4k 60. so in total we get three 4k 60 displays that this can run
which is great and then we've got our separate audio jacks in there and here on this side there
is an intake vent a reset this is for the bios if you mess up any of the settings you can simply
reset it from there you don't have to open it up disconnect the battery anything like that
and another intake vent there so this part around the outside that is made out of alloy and then the
top of it here so there's a gap around the outside that is for ventilation this is plastic and our
wireless antennas this is the wi-fi six that it has they are stuck to the top of this plastic lid
here for maximum signal reception and then turning it over you can see here some more vents on it
and where you slot in that visa mount so you can mount this on the back of a tv
and then removing the rear lid is where we can gain access to our mvme drive and if you
remove it underneath is our wireless card now if you're wondering what about the 2.5
inch drives so you can install two of them that is possible which is really good
and you can put them both on here okay there's vents there and you plug them in just here for
the sake of three drives but what's missing in my box at least is the screws so the mounting bracket
goes over them holds them into place and you're supposed to screw it down here but those screws
are sadly missing and when it comes to further upgrades with this so if you do remove the main
motherboard i believe on the other side there is no sodium slot the ram this is configured with
12 gigabytes of ram that is soldered onto the motherboard and that's it okay that's the way
it is configured no upgrade sadly with this one when it comes to ram first up our buyer so
there's not a lot to show you unfortunately there is no advanced settings tab which would have been
perfect that we could go along and tweak some advanced settings there increase power limits
but minis forum don't want us doing that unfortunately so you can see there that this
is the tiger lag so the core i5 1135 g7 maximum turbo is 4.2 gigahertz it's a quad core it has
the iris xc graphics and it's a 10 nanometer chip and you can see the ram speeds there
uh they are quick so this should definitely aid and benefit that integrated graphics which i'll be
testing later on in this review so under security there are secure boot things we can change here
uh the storage security configuration and the boot menu here is the one that allows us to at
least tweak a couple of things here so just the wake settings network stack configuration and if
you intend to run this as a server file server you want to change this one the ac power loss policy
to make sure it's always power on for you so it's going to power up
now on first boot you will be greeted with the following pre-installed language packs and this
is good that means we don't have to waste time downloading any of these extra languages so i'll
skip ahead i won't go through that setup part of course everyone knows that and it's incredibly
boring so this mini pc it does come with windows 10 pro and you can see i ram the 12 gigabytes
there which runs at 3.7 gigahertz which is rather fast now they have dedicated a little bit 300
megabytes to the iris xe graphics and i just bring this menu up here take a little performance here
you can see that the memory speed very high but it does actually scale down it clocks itself
down i've been seeing it doing this quite a lot and that would just be saving on energy
is one of the reasons it's doing that so it's not actually sitting at that top speed
the entirety of the time you're using it no it actually does fluctuate a little bit there so
the drive on board this one is the kingston and it is nvme and you can see these speeds here then
i mean they're not bad definitely faster than sata3 so you can install an additional
2 sata 3 drives if you wanted to do so you could even run a sata 3 as a boot drive
and use the nvme slot to nvme to external gpu if you wanted to do that now
for a pcie drive these are not the fastest it's definitely no samsung pm 981 or a samsung evo
drive so if you wanted faster that is definitely possible there for upgrades if you wanted to
install say a terabyte drive there so i wanted to point out as a couple of other things a nice
little pleasant surprise here that we can run uh with the display out at least here with my lg cx
that i have i'm able to run 4k at 120 hertz but it is 8 bit when it's doing that okay 120 hertz there
and it looks very smooth and i can not really see the difference between the 8 and 10 bit there with
it and the main thing is getting that 120 hertz if your 4k display supports it is really good to have
now xtu can we under volt we can't okay i tried to install it this is the latest version of xtu
maybe there's a way around this i know that there are some forums there's some shortcut or
some sort of hack you can do to try and get it to run but it looks at this point anyway that uh no
we're not able to undervolt sandy with this particular processor so benchmarks that i've
run cinebench have just finished this one up and i mean it's okay this result i did expect to be a
little bit better uh just short of well just over 5 500 now i was expecting this to be over 6 000
now i noticed that it got very hot and i'll get onto the thermals soon and that is why this score
is a little bit lower so some thermal throttling took place it was bouncing around the turbos
between 2.9 and 3.7 across all of the four cores and that's why that score could have been better
there and the same goes for geekbench five that it did actually touch on thermal throttling for
a little bit and that's why this score i believe could be better here so slightly disappointing
i mean the single core score there for a 4.2 gigahertz turbo and the multi-core for a quad core
with the eight threads it isn't bad i mean don't get me wrong it's not bad but i was hoping for
better there and the iris xc graphics this is the opencl score which is is a big step up from the
intel hd graphics that we normally saw at least on the previous generations like the uh the 10th
gen and the 8th gen and things that's a nice step up there too with that one
and then on thermal so so far this is what i'm seeing here with the thermals
98 degrees is what it has peaked at in fact 99 degrees and that's just after doing some stress
testing so yeah it's it's not looking good the fan is very good the way it scales up when it's hot
and then it just disappears once it cools down the fan doesn't remain on and then becomes very quiet
so it's not a allowed machine when it's not being pushed hard but when it's being pushed hard it's
reasonably loud i wouldn't call it actually loud compared to my gaming
laptop it's nothing but it does make a bit of noise and you will hear it
but sad to see this the thermal throttling is taking place hitting 99 degrees isn't exactly good
i know it is a 28 watt processor maybe i've got a bad thermal pace job but i just don't think the
cooler is really up to it maybe they need to put a beefier cooler in this one so general performance
of this particular mini pc is very very good it feels very quick very snappy everything loads up
fast start menu that doesn't lag so there's no point me going over what i would do on the more
low end machines like say the jasper lake that i've just reviewed or the previous gemini legs
now the file playback very good this is a super demanding file here and it plays
it with absolute ease this one is hevc 10 bit 4k not a problem and even 4k 60 sony swordsmith file
this one very very good again no problems with this whatsoever really quick and wherever i
go it just doesn't drop a frame there same with youtube performance again really good
not a problem now onto video editing this is with adobe premiere pro 4k timeline here that does have
some 100 megabit files in there so i noticed that with the preview i want to keep it on a quarter
because otherwise it seems sometimes to be not laggy but it's dropping frames just a little there
so what i'll do now is an export and we'll see how long it's going to take for one minute of footage
now this is something that i normally always test out on these particular mini pcs and it shouldn't
take long at all for one minute of footage should just be over about one minute especially now we've
got the 80 executional calls with the iris xc so the preset i use here is the youtube one
4k and i'll just adjust this now to one minute of footage and we'll see how long it's going to take
okay so one minute right there hit start and there's a delay of about two seconds
and export right here and it should be able to power right through this
and that is actually looking like yes definitely going to be under one minute that is very
quick thanks to the iris xe graphics and we just have a few seconds left so once the bar disappears
completely 100 that's gone i'll hit pause so you're looking at approximately about 48 seconds
for one minute of footage so we're now under one minute in code times
for a quad core this is good so this is where the 10 nanometers and especially the iris xc
does pull ahead from the intel uhd integrated graphics that we had on the previous generations
it's just so much quicker at exporting video using that intel quick sync now for gaming performance
so this is where we should see a really nice step up performance because we've now got well the
80 execution of course iris pro graphics and the faster memory that should be helping out a lot so
this is 1080p on the medium sort of to normal low settings here and it's looking good look at this
60 frames per second so that is a huge step up this is it's not quite double the performance
of before i mean the uhd graphics would have been approximately 30 40 frames per second right now so
that is it's a nice bump up a very nice bump up here and performance in fact it would have been
lower than that it would have really been about 30 frames per second 1080p because i used to
test it out at 720p so overall i'm happy with this increase here
and it is quite quiet when gaming right now there's a bit of tearing coming through on the
screen there so ideally you would put vsync on of course and that would avoid that problem there the
witcher 3 now so this is running in the mid 40s average 1080p on the low settings preset i think
most people would run it on low settings because you put it on a medium setting then it does get
into the mid 30s late 30s so not ideal but this frame rate is excellent this is really good so
this is around the amd vega kind of performance and sometimes even a little bit better at times
and the thermals holding up well it's only around 64 degrees here so when gaming the
thermals are fine it's just when you run things like cinebench and benchmarks and stress tests
it will hit 99 degrees but for the normal kind of computing and the gaming the thermals are fine so
great to see these big leaps now in the integrated graphics performance it's well overdue with intel
especially and they're finding of course on 10 nanometers away from 14 nanometers which took them
again like a lifetime to get on to the smaller process counter-strike now so this is 1080p
lowest possible settings and the average frame rate here is well over a hundred and if you
even have a high refresh monitor you could take advantage of this but of course i would keep it on
the lowest setting so you don't really want to go whoops grenade ouch you do not really want to put
it on the high settings here you want to keep that frame rate really really high as possible so the
iris xc is a huge stair part with the 80 execution of cores with this model here
this performance i'm really happy with i think for integrated graphics on such a small little mini pc
this is really good well where he is he's waiting around here somewhere hiding
ah i got me where was he no idea ah hiding there i completely missed him anyway that's
enough of my terrible counter-strike gameplay and lastly our linux support so i don't have
wireless for some reason now normally it's detected this intel ax 200 card with this
particular build here i've got of linux mint the new version uh then recently released and
it doesn't seem to want to work with it i don't really know why so i'll probably have
to try out another linux mint distro but i do believe linux should be able to run on this
just fine considering i've gotten this far it's just a minor driver issue that's all okay so all
up there are quite a few areas of improvements with this particular model here so we've got the
2.5 gigabit lan that's really good to see and two of them if you were going to be running say
a router file server or server this is a mini pc that you could do with that those lan ports there
definitely it's something that a lot of people do actually look for to have the extra lan port now
this one it does power on if it loses the power state if you set it in the buyer's setting but
unfortunately the bias options are really locked down no advanced settings which is a shame there
now the integrated graphics performance very good thanks to the 80 execution of cores the faster ram
it's definitely helping and of course the iris xc performance that architecture
over say the 10th gen even iris xc is a big step up over the integrated uhd graphics that we
previously saw which was downright well terrible performance for integrated graphics so games like
counter strike which are light engine titles can run over 100 frames per second and the witcher 3
and gta 5 and most games out there on 1080p on low settings will be playable apart from maybe some of
those super demanding new titles like cyberpunk i think will still be around 30 frames per second
you'll probably want to run that one at 720p but it will actually be well playable and probably
better than the playstation 4 at least with that so that then brings me on to other things that
are good about it well 2.5 inch drive support is good that we can add the two drives but my unit
has no screws for them for some reason they're not in the box but that's not a massive thing
i can easily source those but still it should be there and then the cons so thermals you knew i was
going to say that right the thermals it peaks at 99 degrees celsius celsius there triggers thermal
throttling and that's not good to see at all now it only happens when stressing it out with
benchmarks really so cinebench geekbench it would peak to about 95 but cinebench really pushed it
hard and then it throttled and the cause dropped down across all of the four cores so instead
of holding i think it was 3.7 it was holding originally it dropped right down to 2.9 affecting
greatly the performance there so the benchmarks could have been a little bit better i believe now
if just mini's forum they adjust the fan profiles on this one i think the fan profiles are good
i like the way that as soon as the temperatures drop that fan rpm just completely goes away and
it's quite a silent unit you only hear it when you're pushing it hard really but i believe
if they set a lower point a trigger point for when it starts to get warm so if it kicks in the fan at
a higher rpm a little sooner it probably wouldn't peak to the 99 degrees for short bursts at least
anyway but with the long continuous loads it will thermal throttle so that's really the con for me
the other one is upgradable ram support sadly non-existent with this unit it is 12 gigabytes
of some very fast ddr4 ram but because of the size of the heatsink in this you simply cannot have the
two sodium slots that we're used to seeing in these mini pcs from them so they are missing
so you cannot just go and remove the ram or add another stick or i want to have 32 gigabytes in
this unfortunately not with this one i would have liked to have seen definitely that upgradable ram
and maybe an mvme slot an additional one instead of having the two 2.5 inch drive base but don't
get me wrong it's still great to have that option to add in just a huge capacity of storage
so that's the full story there of the tl50 from mini's forum i think it's good in some areas and
it's just really the major one which is the the thermals on this i do hope that they can somehow
improve maybe the heat sink on this or the fan uh before it is released because this
is a pre-production unit it's currently on what they call our pre-orders pre-sale at the moment
there so thank you so much for watching and i do hope to see you back in the next one bye for now