YOU.
BRIAN: CLAUDIA COWAN, HANK FOR
THAT THE.
JOINING ME NOW, NEW YORK POST
COLUMNIST MIRANDA DEVINE.
IT’S THE GREAT TO SEE YOU.
WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN TO BOUDIN
IN SAN FRANCISCO?
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT DO YOU
THINK IT MEANS FOR THE REST OF
THE COUNTRY IF, IN FACT, HE IS
VOTED OUT?
>> HI, BRIAN.
LOOK, I MEAN, I HOPE AGAINST
HOPE THAT THE HE’S VOTED OUT
BECAUSE IT MEANS MORE THAN JUST
BETTER LAW AND ORDER FOR THE
PEOPLE OF SAN FRANCISCO, IT
ACTUALLY WILL SEND A SIGN OTT
THE DEMOCRATS -- TO THE
DEMOCRATS AND TO PROGRESSIVES
EVERYWHERE THAT THE PEOPLE DO
NOT WANT WHAT THEY’RE SELLING,
THEY DO NOT WANT HIGH CRIME
RATES, THEY DO NOT WANT THEIR
STREETS TO BE THE FULL OF GRIME
AND DISORDER AND TO BE
DANGEROUS.
I MEAN, THIS IS A COMPLETE
BREAKDOWN OF LAW AND ORDER IN
SAN FRANCISCO, BUT IT’S REPEATED
ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN CITIES
LIKE NEW YORK WHERE ALVIN BRAGG
IS LATEST PROGRESSIVE PROSECUTOR
WHO THE FIRST THING HE DID WHEN
HE CAME IN WAS JUST DECIDE TO
DISMANTLE A WHOLE LOT OF
POLICIES THAT KEPT NEW YORKERS
SAFE.
BRIAN: YEAH.
ERIC ADAMS, MAYOR OF NEW YORK,
CERTAINLY HAD SOMETHING TO SAY
ABOUT THAT.
HE’S CALLING OUT NEW YORK CITY’S
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM,
MIRANDA.
TAKE A LISTEN TO THIS.
>> NO ONE TAKES CRIMINAL JUSTICE
THE SERIOUSLY ANYMORE.
THESE BAD GUYS NO LONGER TAKE
THEM SERIOUSLY.
THEY BELIEVE OUR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM IS A
LAUGHINGSTOCK OF OUR ENTIRE
COUNTRY.
BRIAN: SO MAYOR ADAMS SAYING
THIS AS NEW POLLING SHOWS 76% OF
NEW YORKERS FEAR THEY WILL
BECOME A VICTIM OF VIOLENT
CRIME.
MIRANDA, YOU KNOW, ON ONE HAND
YOU HEAR THE MAYOR SAY THESE OFF
WORDS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, LOOK, I’M A
GUY WHO LIVES IN NEW YORK MOST
OF THE YEAR.
I’VE WATCH ADD ALSO SINCE HE
TOOK OFFICE -- ADD ADAMS SINCE
HE TOOK OFFICE.
TO ME, IF HE WANTED TO BE THIS
TOUGH ON IT, HE WOULD HAVE
STARTED SAYING THESE THINGS BACK
IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, NOT
WAITING UNTIL JUNE.
YOUR REACTION TO HOW ADAMS IS
RESPONDING TO THIS.
>> LOOK, THE ONLY REASON THAT
EVERYTHING ADAMS IS -- ERIC
ADAMS IS THE MAYOR IS BECAUSE HE
RAN ON A LAW AND ORDER PLATFORM
WHICH NONE OF HIS DEMOCRATIC
RIVALS DID.
THAT’S WHAT THE PEOPLE OF NEW
YORK WANTED.
HE CAME IN, HE TALKED A GOOD
TALK, BUT HE REALLY HASN’T DONE
ANYTHING.
I MEAN, HE’S BEEN HERE SIX
MONTHS, AND THINGS ARE JUST AS
DANGEROUS AS EVER THEY WERE.
I MEAN, HE’S TELLING ME -- EL
THING US THEY’VE TAKEN SOME GUNS
OFF THE STREETS, GREAT, BUT IN
TERMS OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE,
YOU WOULD KNOW WALKING AROUND
THE STREETS THAT THERE IS A
MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM THAT’S
REPEATED ACROSS PROGRESSIVE
CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
BUT IT’S PARTICULARLY BAD HERE
IN NEW YORK.
AND IT’S DANGEROUS.
PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO CATCH THE
SUBWAY ANYMORE IN CASE THEY’LL
BE SHOT UP AS HAPPENED NOT TOO
LONG AGO OR GET PUSHED ONTO THE
RAILWAY TRACKS OR SOME CRAZY
PERSON COMES AND PULLS THEIR THE
HAIR.
I MEAN, IT’S A DANGEROUS
SITUATION IN THIS CITY, AND IT’S
GETTING WORSE.
IT’S NOT ERIC ADAMS’ FAULT.
I MEAN, IT IS THE FAULT OF HIS
PREDECESSOR, BILL DE BLASIO, AND
OF THE LAWMAKERS IN ALBANY.
BUT HE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING,
AND HE NEEDS TO DO THE MORE THAN
JUST TELL EVERYBODY IT’S A
LAUGHINGSTOCK.
NO ONE IS LAUGHING.
BRIAN: WELL, THAT’S JUST THE
THING.
HE SAYS LAUGHINGSTOCK.
WHO IN THIS COUNTRY IS LAUGHING
AT WHAT’S GOING ON IN NEW YORK
OR PHILADELPHIA?
IT’S NOT LAUGHING, IT’S A
CATASTROPHE.
SO THE FRAMING OF IT ALMOST IS
MISSING THE POINT.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT INCONVENIENCE
OR SILLINESS.
THIS IS ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.
MY RAN A DA, YOU THINK ABOUT
ISSUES LIKE IN THE, YOU KNOW,
ECONOMIC ISSUES TEND TO BE AT
TOP OF THE POLLS EVERY TIME.
IT’S INFLATION.
BUT CRIME, TO ME, IS ONE OF
THOSE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES
WHEN YOU PAIR IT WITH SOMETHING
LIKE INFLATION, YOU’VE GOT A
COMBO THAT REALLY MOTIVATES
VOTERS.
DO YOU SEE THOSE TWO ISSUES IN
PARTICULAR WORKING TOGETHER THIS
YEAR AS WE LEAD UP TO THE
MIDTERMS TO REALLY CAUSE CHANGE
NOT JUST AT A LOCAL LEVEL, BUT
AT A NATIONAL LEVEL?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
AND, I MEAN, YOU’VE PUT YOUR
FINGER ON THE PROBLEM.
YOU BASICALLY HAVE THESE
LAWMAKERS, THESE DEMOCRATS WHO
HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVATE ARMIES
LOOKING AFTER THEM.
THEY HAVE ARMED GUARDS
EVERYWHERE THEY GO.
SO THEY ARE SHIELDED FROM THE
PROBLEMS THAT THE REST OF US ARE
HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
THEY ALSO ARE WELL PAID, AND
THEY’RE BETTER PAID THAN THEIR
SALARIES BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT
THEY’RE GOING TO BE MAKING A LOT
OF MONEY AND GETTING A LOT OF
JOBS WHEN THEY’RE OUT OF OFFICE.
SO THEY HAVE NO FINANCIAL OR
CRIME WORRIES AND, THEREFORE
THE, THEY JUST DON’T FEEL WHAT
EVERYONE ELSE FEELS.
THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT’S
THE LIKE TO RYE AND FILL UP YOUR
CAR OR PAY FOR THE GROCERY BILL,
AND THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT
IT’S LIKE TO TRY AND CATCH THE
SUBWAY TO GET TO WORK.
SO I THINK THEY’RE COMPLETELY
OUT OF TOUCH, AND THEY WILL BE
GETTING A REAL AWAKENING IN
NOVEMBER.
AND ODD TO, I THINK -- ODD THE,
I THINK, CHESA BOUDIN AND OTHERS
WILL ALSO BE GETTING, LET’S
HOPE, A SLAP IN THE FACE.
BRIAN: WELL, THEY NEED IT,
BECAUSE IF THEY CAN’T FEEL IT,
PEOPLE FEEL IT.
AND AT SOME LEVEL, YOU NEED YOUR
ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES TO
UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS YOU’RE
TRYING TO SOLVE SO THEY CAN WORK
FOR THEM.
IT’S JUST NOT HAPPENING RIGHT
NOW.
ERIC ADAMS, IT’S AN ATTEMPT, BUT
THE FACT THAT HE’S CALLING IT A
LAUGHINGSTOCK, TO ME, SUGGESTS
HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
PEOPLE ON THE GROUND, IN THE
SUBWAY, ON THE SEATS OF NEW YORK
CITY AND ACROSS THIS COUNTRY
FEEL.