Okay folks, I'm Bob Schrupp physical therapist, Brad Heineck physical therapist, together
we are the most famous physical therapists on the internet, in our opinion of course. Today Brad you wanted to talk about sciatica and back
pain with sitting especially in those circumstances where you're on lawn chairs
or you're on bleachers, kind of unsupported sitting sometimes and other times
Kind of not really good for you type of sitting. We're going to give you some information, if you're at a picnic
at a parade or at a
sporting event. Right now soccer is going on, football, I was just at a football
game for seventh graders
You know they don't have bleachers at some of those and all the parents are sitting along with
chairs like this or they're in the bleachers and we're going to show an example for that, so Bob there are
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This is Napoleon
Bonaparte and he joined us today too because he actually can demonstrate how some of these supports can help. Right
Exactly Bob, so very good before we go any farther Bob. There's one thing I've got to do
It's not sunny out in here today, so let's just see if we can, there
we go, you feel better now? t
So if you are sitting, we're gonna cover bleachers first. If this represents the bleacher well first
Let's just real quickly mentioned Brad the problem with sciatica and back pain is so often
It's caused by this type of posture, so this spine is
orientated the same as Brad is right now
The pelvis, his head would be looking this way, this rounded out posture actually can cause the discs to migrate
posterior, migrate towards the back. It's gonna make it worse, without getting into detail
it's gonna make sciatica worse in almost all cases, so this is a posture
you don't want to be in and when you're on bleachers, it's really hard not to fall into that posture.
Some bleachers are like if you're a taller person, your knees end up higher like this
then it really stresses that low back even more, puts more emphasis on there, yeah the higher your knees are, the more your back's gonna round out, so if
you are experiencing sciatica, and you need to go to a game where you're sitting at bleachers
and you want to have some really good support
there's a product that I
ran into this about 20 years ago. It's been around a long time. Yep
It's called a knotted chair, and it looks like this now
I'll show you
then this folds up into one little package
the straps fold up in there and when we talk about a product by the way we always try to list it down in our recommended
Amazon list down below in the description of Youtube
so you can take a look, he put a towel on there to show the contrast because otherwise you can't see
how it looks against his dark pants, right it would be black on black,
Brad's not just being weird
You know the other alternative of course to bleachers is that you just you don't even sit down, is that you stay standing,
Right you take the upper row and you stand a lot
but
If you want to sit, you're gonna be sitting for a long time, this provides you some good support
right back where you need it. I mean it hits the spot. Yeah
Yeah, it's you're right on the sacrum, right low back, it really gives you
It is a little you know obvious, right
I mean if you're wearing one, but when your pain goes from a six down to a one, you feel good
It's a good deal. So you put it on your knees like this and around your back like that
You can see it gets you right where you need it, the first time it's gonna
take a little bit of adjustment, right, well right here the straps on this one
You just go forward and that did it right there
I'm just gonna go a little more on the right hand side very easy, and I'm gonna go right there hit the spot, woah
That feels good Bob
It hits you right where it needs to and
It's just something to consider especially if you're going to a lot of events and a lot of events where you're on the bleachers
so
And again like you said Brad, it's worse on guys like me cuz look at me in this chair Brad
Look how high my knees are and plus this has, can we go into this?
Sure Bob we can go into anything you want, well it's kind of your baby. No. No you're you're doing well
I just want to show people that this knotted chair
goes into a little pack
Oh, yeah, and you can see it only took me about 42 seconds to do out 33
Not a chair so here go and the pack the pack is within it, right?
I mean, it's all part of it. Yeah
So do you mind if I continue Brad? Go ahead, all right
So this chair what I really hate about it besides how low it is
It's got kind of a scoop seat, and what a scoop seat makes you do
It rounds you out like this. It's almost impossible to sit upright in this thing
I call them sling chairs because they sling or they hammock
And I don't even think he can put a support in there to fix it with a lumbar, it would be tough
I mean you're right
It would be better than nothing probably Brad to put one in there
But it still, look at this, it just makes me want to do this
Slide right forward, and they're nice chairs, the price is good
And they fold up nicely and you put it into the the nice container for it, and it's got the beverage holder
But I'm telling you this chair here
I just bought for my wife this year, and it's kind of like that
But if you'll sit in it it you'll see the difference
Leopold's in there or we could use him. Or Napoleon. No, where do I get Leopold?
I don't know where you Leopold
Are we taking him out? Can we zoom up in here?
Let's bring it right up in here
Let's get this arm out of the way here, don't get too close to Lonnie she gets scared
Gonna tickle him. Can you see right back in here?
So here is what your back is anybody's back has got natural lumbar lordosis, or curve right there
Now if you're sitting it can be very helpful to fill that in with a lumbar support
So especially in a softer chair although this one is harder isn't it? Oh yeah
This one is much better than that sling chair. It's not quite as good as the next one
we're gonna look at but it's a step between
His hand's caught, he's not behaving today
But if you look at this, it fits right into that curve, very natural now
This is memory foam
lumbar support, so it's very comfortable and you would scoot your bottom up against that and you can just see how that
conforms to the back naturally
There you could also use a round one like this. That would work as well
It kind of depends on the individual, you might even be able to take a throw pillow or something or
even a rolled-up towel possibly although
It probably would take a pretty thick towel on this one. Yeah, cuz there's a little thing in there. Bob here
Let me take him out now. You slide that back and sit on it
Tell me what you think
By the way Brad some people made the comment that the one we have down below is it like that one
It is different. We couldn't find this one anymore that they were selling it so we put a different one on there
That's just as good. Yeah. It's got the memory foam so yeah
Let me sit in here, first off the thing I notice Brad, this one's a little higher
So my knees on his aren't as bad as they are and it is more solid. Yeah, yeah without a doubt now
Let's put let's put this back in there for you
I actually like this weird as it sounds I like it upside down. Well coming from you Bob
That's normal, cuz it goes down into my sacrum a little more. See this is really good in this chair because
again Brad likes this in his car too
but in a chair like this
this is perfect, look how upright I am. If you're gonna go watch a soccer game
This is gonna keep you comfortable. Look at me here. Hey move your arm there
Look how upright I am.
Look at this. Yeah, right away. I round out
So this actually is perfect for a chair like that and not only that this one offers not one
but two beverage holders
And you'd know a little bit about that Brad. Well I am from Wisconsin
Okay, now this is if you notice a fold-up chair, if you get one with a frame support, you know these
have been around since the 70s or 60s, but I swear that they offer the best support to the back
Yep. Go ahead and sit, I know it's gonna hurt
It's got green and gold colors on there Bob. Yeah, this is actually more solid than any of them, right
I mean this is probably gonna be a little thick for you in this chair
See what you think. Again I like it upside down. Oh, sorry Bob. Sorry. See again
it does hold me upright though
and it does support me where I want to be sure
If I sat in here I'd be looking for something, you could always take a towel like this if you've got sciatica
Nothing wrong with taking a towel and getting that in here
So you know I'm in the right spot right you need pretty thick towel on this one Brad for being sure yep
That's a nice thing about using a towel
You can adjust it to make it fit your body, one thing when I get support Brad
I like to have it not only in the low back, but also on what we call the sacrum
Yeah, just below the beltline, but it's often a matter of comfort, you can often tell yourself
Where you want to have it to be
I tell people kind of put it around the belt line and a lot of people naturally put it a little bit lower when I'm
talking about it, so typically you know I mean you put it like when I'm on that
not a chair does that feel good it hits me right where I want it when I adjust it there so uh and
And on all instances Brad you want to try to avoid the sitting as much as possible, get up as much as possible, walk
Take the breaks and use them to get up and about
Particularly if you're stuck in bleachers,
Wow just once again Bob, I think we're taking one more step
We're getting closer to fixing that one part of the anatomy that we're not, Brad and I can fix just about anything
except for a broken heart
Say no more. I think I'm gonna put it on your chest, okay.