in the order you weren't taught to
question the authority of the leaders
not only everything you ever make but
everything you ever do and everything
you ever will be has to be turned into
the order your whole life is dedicated
for it only Kingston clan is thought of
as a massive enterprise that could
easily be worth millions of dollars
the Kingston clan has their fingers in
all kinds of businesses runs their
business and runs their family kind of
like a religious communist Enclave
members get a paycheck from the Kingston
clan from those businesses that they
work for
but then that money goes right back into
the clan that the majority we're hearing
going right to the top agents also
served warrants at the four million
dollar home of Washakie CEO Jacob
Kingston son of Clan Lee John Daniel
Kingston my dad is John Daniel Kingston
and people on the outside call the
Kingston clan and it's just the Kingston
group based on wee fundamentalist
Mormons my dad has 14 wives counting my
mom and I have 13 siblings on my mom's
side and 157 siblings on my dad's side
uncle's marrying nieces and brothers
marrying sisters from other mothers my
mom and dad had the same father
and their dads or tell Hewson yep that's
pretty weird
my dad too didn't know him she didn't
pay the bills
he didn't he didn't come over for
birthdays nothing in 2013 my mom got
really sick because she had colon cancer
and my dad convinced her to try some
type of treatment that he thought could
work instead of going to like the
hospital and stuff so she she tried that
and she got really sick when she
actually did pass away then my dad and
the leaders just just took an inventory
of all of her stuff and then said if you
want it you can buy it otherwise we're
just gonna sell it on Cassell and I have
one thing it's like a silver bell and
she used it when she was sick if she
needed help
that's the only thing that I got yeah
nice six of 2015 my dad said the next
day you need to pack your bags and
figure out where you're gonna live if
you left the order then you can't see or
talk or hang out with with anyone like
that's in the order still so it's been
nine months since I've seen my dad and
you know he didn't think I would
actually pack my bags and figure out
where I was gonna live I think it was
more of a threat than anything because
he wants me back now when they have a
struggle or Daniel gets upset and kicks
him out they know they can come here and
one day Joe showed up like can I stay
here and I was like okay I'm Joe's older
sister I am the oldest out of 13 kids
and I also have nine kids and I was
married when I was 16 to the leaders
firstborn son and I was his seventh wife
in the church he required to have a baby
every single year and you're required to
stay skinny and you're required to pay
all your bills and keep up the household
all by yourself
I had a few miscarries that were very
deadly and at the very end I my I was
pregnant and the baby had died and then
my body wouldn't pass it I was a Miss to
miscarry so my stomach started swelling
and I was getting septic and they had a
magical tea to make me have the baby
after all those teas and everything they
could see that I my body was not gonna
release the baby and I was deathly ill
my husband decided he was too busy to
deal with me that day so I stayed home
passed out the whole day and when he
came I picked up the phone call the
doctor and he attacked me and at that
point I realized something was
completely wrong finally I got a
doctor's appointment and got into the
doctor and got the baby out I kept all
the kids with me and I found a way to
survive with six kids
this Sunday my dad asked me if I would
meet with him to figure out how I can
get back to the order he's definitely
gonna be trying to convince me to go
back you can do whatever you want I just
wouldn't do it myself
yeah so if you have something to say to
him go have fun with that you dislocated
my jaw you got a good shot I sure
appreciate what it hit him back okay I
was like whatever yeah cuz I didn't know
how bad it was until I left as long as
you know I love and care about you
that's what matters
yeah when I was 14 I believe that magic
was real so I started learning illusions
so people wouldn't know the difference
between the real magic and the fake
magic I never actually learned the real
magic but it did kind of open up my eyes
a little bit
learning illusions becoming more
educated and starting to question a
little bit more after realizing okay
this something I believed in really big
wasn't real then I started thinking just
more realistic and logical and I started
question
when I met Joe it was exciting because
he had this dream of doing magic and
when I learned his story on how he used
magic as an escape to his life I was
just so touched I fell in love with him
my name is Christine Marie I'm the
founder of voices for dignity we help
survivors of religious abuse polygamy
and human trafficking you know I had an
experience with this in my own life I
believed in him in a prophet and I was
subjected to cult mind-control and human
trafficking and our home is like a safe
home a very fun kind of safe home and we
taken kids from polygamy they wanted me
to marry my first cousin because they
say that they want to keep the bloodline
pure they kept pushing that on me and
that's why I left after coming here and
meeting Christina it was like a really
good feeling knowing that I could decide
what I wanted for my life whether I did
what kids or I just wanted to stay
single forever
when people leave a cult they haven't an
enormous wound because everything that's
familiar to them is in their group and
another thing that the public doesn't
realize is that there are also beautiful
things within those communities we have
to be careful not to do
one-size-fits-all and say just because
there are many many bad things that are
in that lifestyle are in that group that
there's nothing good to pull people like
Joe to come back I mean there's his
family who he loves dearly his brothers
especially but there's also certain
doctrines and comfort in their rituals
their traditions when you're out in the
real world and you don't really know
what the purpose of your life is anymore
you know you wonder it
yesterday I talked with my dad he wanted
me to go back I just told him I'd have
to think about it
he was nice to me he just said are you
long me and then I told him I yes I am
and he says if you want to see your
family again then you can come back and
he told me what he expects me to do to
go back work where he wants me to work
and do what he wants me to do and like
pay a fee he said it could range from
two thousand three thousand or five
thousand but he said however much it is
you have to be ready to just pay pay
however much I still can't wrap my head
around the beliefs so I'm not probably
not gonna go back but I don't yeah I'm
not gonna go back
we criminalize poor words if we let
rights to taking away your rights would
get taken money - we should get our
choice just like you chose to be gay
Jinxy standing up for rights but it
still creates this inequality between
men and women you know regardless of
right hope I don't meet any order
members cuz it'll be kind of awkward
because we all know each other so they
don't know who I am
what do you think is the reason for the
bill do you think it's because people
hate the polygamists what why do you
think people care that's really an
irrelevant question no it's very
important you don't have the right to
form our families according to our
choices if we're adults we either have
that right or we don't that's the issue
what everyone forgets in every
discussion that I had with any of the
pro polygamy people they kept pounding
on the issue of choice this is not about
choice when you're an adult
sure I mean people over 18 can make
their own choices but they have children
the children in polygamy did not choose
to be born with a hundred and sixty nine
siblings when you have that many
children with one father how can that
father possibly be emotionally invested
in those children
I saw how sensitive he was when he saw
people from his his religious group
did you hurt okay okay it's okay
okay and I understand that because he
associates so much pain with having been
kicked out of the group and having been
through what he's been through like when
you saw your dad did you like were you
drawn to like go back it's part of you
it's okay you can be honest like part of
me probably part of me yeah but for the
most part yeah it's worried about you
because I know that's a very emotional
like shredding kind of things it's
Priscilla went through it too
you don't you know Priscilla oh yeah
yeah yeah I want you I want to introduce
you but she heard that I was in the dado
is he here then can you show me when she
made the decision to leave I didn't tell
her that things up and her she can do
whatever she would like to do right and
she did and she chose to Eli told us her
choice yeah we love her I mean we really
love her you know I don't want you
Kingston's to think oh this one really
messed up no no she is a good egg when
you leave you go through everything that
you're afraid of like you're in this
really big depression
and you don't know how to get out of it
it takes a really really long time like
I I'm still really struggling with it
even though I've been gone for a year I
love to help any one of these people
who've had all of their opportunities
and dreams just crushed to you know get
their wings again and feel beautiful
accomplish their goals and just fly
in the next few months while he's
thinking about it all
I really hope to help them you know find
his independence and experience the
fullness of life and playfulness and and
the magic of of magic he said your mind
is the key that sets you free oh isn't
that perfect that is perfect well
getting people to question stuff that's
because healthy so I'm gonna continue on
doing magic fix maybe someone will see
it and start questioning
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