the chief operating officer Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg recently spearheaded the
launch a campaign
to be on the word bossy arguing the negative put-down stops girls from
pursuing leadership roles
some are on board with the idea being weird thing they're more important
issues to worry about equalizing the playing field
for women well joining me a doctor susan was born his psychology professor at
U-mass
Amherst and also the bestselling author she's here to explain this new trend and
talk about
where came from thank you so much doctor has to be here
fellow talk about how this all got started you end up writing a blog post
about this
her I did I saw on the news that the headband bossy movement have been kicked
off
and I thought all right I'll do a little digging and see what I can find in the
psychology literature
and it wasn't long before I found a whole treasure trove
I have articles about women in leadership
and women and girls and helping girls to embrace the idea of being a leader
instead it's
feeling that it somehow tainted or something they don't want to associate
with
the the on Cheryl rather not the author but
Cheryl Samberg from Facebook who is spearheading this
harken back to experience in her life when she was little and a teacher I told
another girl not be friends with her because she was bossy I guess being seen
at more aggressive girls art a personality girls are being seen
as party which can be and negative now some people would argue and say well
words shouldn't define your night got such a response from people on social
media
both for and against this but I guess what you're saying is that
this is beyond just a simple word that's right
Elise I got some responses to both on my blogging on Twitter
and my Facebook group people saying we shouldn't ban
a word and I i think thats not so much the point
as the concept of what posse means and what it connotes
and the image I used to tag my own blog post was Lucy
from peanuts and no little girl really wants to be like Lucy
and it's much more effective to be Sally you can still get what you want
I but when you're Lucy you just make everybody mad at you
yet Lucy has a lot of qualities that are admirable
just difficult for women to embrace okay
I think I so I really think yeah
the right but not many women think along this way so
when I apposition media like you did you always get a tat tremendous response
from people for and against an issue
and I think that predominate factor people let's start with against
the band bossa campaign what they can now in force again saying
its word police stop it you know be boss you can be anything you want then you
have the flip side of the coin saying
wealth not the fact that it's the word per se it's the fact that
men aren't called bossy but women are called posse to a negative
in a negative connotation and negative way
that's right but is definitely a gender eyes term and it when applied to girls
little girls be girls whatever your age it's really
isn't the word it's what it represents it saying
you know you're in my face you're trying to take over
you're trying to be like a man and don't be that way that's not how girls behave
summer the stars that have come out in support of Charles Samberg in this
campaign
I is beyond as an example hit a single beyond doubt i apologize. Beyonce
and you could look at it and say all right
well what about some of the lyrics some other things your husband
says and his videos are in songs and
that is a bigger issue to some people saying
be other B word as opposed to party the other B word is something that we should
be getting ready or having very sexually suggestive
routines in the video kinda making girls feel as if they need to be this kind of
sexualized
object for men can you look at that and say well that's a much bigger issues to
worry about than
bossy I I agree but and it is kind of ironic that ban say has taken this cause
on but it's good
me maybe they're having conversations at home and maybe
we can start to change some of those somos dialogue summers lyrics and
represent women were positively
everywhere in media what you feel
will be and results at this campaign I'm hoping
that a lot of people read about this think about this and that
or women star to help girls mentor girls only girls
and understand different concepts of leadership
leadership training program said i've I've read about and also been a part of
look at leadership
in a more inclusive way rather than one person bossing everybody around it's
bringing everybody in
cooperatively and so mentorship is a really important part of that
so I'm hoping that will be a result of this campaign
doctor report always an interesting conversation with you in every year on
the show thank you so much thank you leave great to be here