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>> WELCOME BACK, LET'S GET RIGHT
TO OUR POWERHOUSE ROUND TABLE.
BOY WE'VE GOT A GOOD ONE FOR YOU
TODAY.
ED IS PRESIDENT OF THE TRIP
SCOTT LAW FIRM, CAN WE SHOW HIM.
THERE HE IS, AN ACTIVE VOICE IN
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN SOT
FLORIDA AND IN WASHINGTON.
>> ANDREA ROBINSON IS A VETERAN
JOURNALIST, EDITOR AND REPORTER
WITH THE MIAMI TIMES FORMERLY OF
THE "MIAMI HERALD."
>> MARLON HILL, PS PRESIDENT
CARIBBEAN BAR ASSOCIATION, RADIO
TALK SHOW HOST, CIVIC ACTIVIST,
MAN OF MANY PARTS
YOUR GROUND BY JUDGE HIRSCH,
WHAT DO YOU THINK.
>> WELL, WE'LL SEE.
I THINK THE DISTRICT KOWR OF
APPEALS, WE TOOK ON A CASE OVER
THERE, CHIEF JUDGE FLOOR EASY
DECISION.
WHETHER OR NOT THE LEGISLATURE
SHOULD BE WAYING THIS LAW,
WHETHER OR NOT THE SUPREME COURT
SHOULD BE WRITING THIS LAW, THAT
IS REALLY WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT,
EVEN THOUGH THE GUN RIGHTS
ADVOCATE WILL FIGHT OVER THIS
ISSUE.
>> SO INTERESTING THAT IT IS IN
THE COURTS NOW AS A PROCESS
STORY WHEN IT REALLY IS, IT
BEGAN AS A LOBBYING STORY AND
STATUTORY STORY.
ANDREA, THERE IS A BURDEN OF
PROOF QUESTION HERE.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THIS, WHO
HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF?
>> OF COURSE IN IN ANY CASE
PROSECUTORS SHOULD HAVE THE
BURDEN OF PROOF, WHEN IT COMES
TO STAND YOUR GROUND, THE WAY
THIS LAW HAS BEEN, WAS WRITTEN,
I THINK THAT THE DEFENSE REALLY,
IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY,
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVE WHY
YOU SHOULD GO TO TRIAL AND BE
ABLE TO USE THIS.
BECAUSE WE ARE IN A SOCIETY NOW
WHERE GUNS ARE PREV LENT.
PEOPLE ARE ANGRY.
AND ANYBODY WILL SAY I WAS IN
FATHER OF PIE LIFE.
>> THE TWO GUYS WHO ARE HAVING A
GUN FIGHT AT THE PROJECT IN
LIBERTY CITY TEN YEARS AGO
WHEN-- JENGINS DIED, THEY BOTH
CLAIMED STAND YOUR GROUND.
THESE ARE DRUG DEALERS, AND A
LITTLE NINE YEAR OLD GIRL GETS
SHOT TO DEATH AND THESE
GANGBANGERS ARE CLAIMING OH, I
WAS JUST PROTECTING MYSELF.
>> BUT AGAIN, THAT STILL SPEAKS
TO WHAT I MEAN.
I THINK THAT WITH ALL THESE
GUNS, HONESTLY STAND YOUR GROUND
WITH GUNS, I DON'T BUY IT.
I PERSONALLY DON'T.
IN THIS CASE THAT BECOMES,
WHEN-- IS KILLED THAT BECOMES A
WHOLE OTHER ISSUE.
SO ANYTHING THAT WILL PROTECT
PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO ARE
IRRESPONSIBLE WITH GUNS, I DON'T
THINK THEY NEED ANOTHER LAYER OF
PROTECTION, I DON'T.
EXAMPLE.
NOT APPLY.
>> WHEN ARE YOU COMMITTING A
CRIME.
>> I DON'T THINK IT IS
APPLICABLE THEN.
BUT PEOPLE ARE USING THIS.
SO YOU HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE
WILL DO IT BUT IN PENNSYLVANIA,
THE OTHER WEEK THIS NEW GRADUATE
WAS DRIVING AND SOME GUY, THEY
GET INTO THIS ROAD RAGE AND HE
PULLED OUT A GUN AND SHOOTS HER.
IS HE GOING TO STAY I WAS
STANDING MY GROUND?
THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING
LATELY.
>> ED, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON
THIS.
>> THE IDEA HERE WAS TO SHIFT
THE BURDEN OF PROOF, THAT IS
WHAT THE NEW LAW DID, IS SHIFT
THE BURDEN OF PROOF FROM A
DEFENDANT WHO WAS JUST TRYING TO
CLAIM STAND YOUR GROUND TO THE
PROSECUTION THAT ONCE THE CLAIM
WAS MADE THAT THERE WAS AN
ABSENCE OF FACTS AROUND THAT.
AND WHAT TROUBLED ME MORE WAS
THE STANDARD OF CLEAR AND
CONVINCING EVIDENCE.
I MEAN THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT
THING.
YOU JUST SAW BEFORE ABOUT WHAT
THAT BURDEN MEANS.
THAT SAY NEAR IMPOSSIBLE BURDEN,
ESPECIALLY IN A PREVIEL.
>> IT IS A TOUGH BURDEN.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT WE DIDN'T TALK
ABOUT WAS ALL OF THE EXTRA
WORKLOAD NOW ON PROSECUTORS.
I MEAN PROSECUTORS ARE
NOT-- THEY'RE PUBLICLY PAID,
PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO ARE THE ONES
I KNOW ARE ALREADY HAVE A
CASELOAD THAT WOULD BOSSEL ANY
LAWYER'S MIND.
BUT THIS REALLY PRESENTS ANOTHER
EXTRA WORKLOAD FOR THEM.
>> YEAH ON THE RESOURCE.
>> PROB LEIGH GOING TO GO TO THE
SUPREME COURT.
BECAUSE I THINK MAYBE THIS
ALL.
>> THAT IS WHERE IT WILL
PROBABLY WIND UP.
>> ED, LET ME ASK YOU TO GET
STARTED, GET US STARTED HERE ON
THE PRESIDENT'S ADVISORY
INTEGRITY.
THE PRESIDENT, TRUMP HAS SAID
FOR A LONG TIME, TWO TO THREE
MILLION PEOPLE WHO WERE ILLEGAL
ALIENS IN THIS COUNTRY VOTED IN
THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, NOVEMBER
16th.
AND HE HAS PROMISED-- NOW THE
COMMISSION HAS BEEN APPOINTED
AND SECRETARY OF STATE OF
FLORIDA SAID OKAY, WE'LL GIV
THIS COMMISSION THE INFORMATION,
RECORD.
DO?
>> IT WAS, BECAUSE THE SECRETARY
OF STATE HAS-- HE'S BOUND BY THE
PROVIDE.
NO MATTER, WE'VE HEARD THIS CRY
SOMETIMES FROM THE MEDIA AS AN
EXAMPLE.
WE WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING.
BUT THERE ARE SOME BOUNDARIES AS
FAR AS PRIVACY ISSUES ABOUT WHAT
CAN BE SHOWN.
AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU DONE GIVE
ADDRESSES OUT TO JUDGES, WHERE
JUDGES LIVE.
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS,
SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
SO HE IS BOUND BY FLORIDA LAW AS
TO WHAT HE CAN AND CAN'T
PROVIDE.
AND SO REGARDLESS OF THE REQUEST
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, HE
STILL HAS TO COMPLY WITH HIS
CHARGE.
>> WHAT REALLY BOTHERS ME IS
THAT WE HAVE AN ELECTION
COMMISSION, VOTER-- COMMISSION
AND OUR PRESIDENT CAN'T EVEN
ADMIT THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES-- IT
SEEMS IRONIC THAT WE HAVE THAT
COMMISSION AND HE CAN'T ADMIT.
>> I THINK HE ADMITTED THAT
THERE WERE ISSUES.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT WERE THEY?
THERE WAS NO VOTING COUNT ISSUES
OR ANY OF THAT STUFF BUT LET'S
UNDERSTAND THIS.
I HAD EXPERIENCE IN THE 20
RECOUNT-- 2,000 RECOUNT.
PROCESS.
AND THOSE ABUSES CONTINUED.
THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE MADE A
BIG STAND ABOUT HOW THEY WERE
GOING TO FUND AND HOW LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS GOT TO COUNT VOTES.
REMEMBER, WE HAVE 67 CANDIDATES
WITH DIFFERENT COUNTING SYSTEMS
AND EVERYTHING.
PROBLEM.
AND PEOPLE WERE ABUSED.
>> HERE IS THE ABUSE.
HERE IS THE ABUSE.
THE ABUSE IS THAT YOUR VOTE
SHOULD COUNT AS MUCH AS MINE.
ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE.
WE LIVE BY THAT STANDARD THAT IS
A REALLY IMPORTANT STANDARD.
WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE OTHERWISE
INELIGIBLE TO VOTE, VOTING.
AND MINE.
THAT.
>> NO, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,
THERE WAS EVIDENCE OF THAT.
I HAVE ENSOO THE EVIDENCE,
PEOPLE VOTING TWICE, IN TWO
DIFFERENT STATES AS AN EXAMPLE.
>> IN 2012 GFER IN RICK SCOTT
ORDERED A REVIEW OF ALL VOTER
ROLLS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
AND IN THE PROCESS HUNDREDS OF
QUALIFIED VOTERS WERE THROWN OFF
THE ROLES, IN THE END OF 11 AND
A HALF MILLION VOTERS AT THAT
TIME, 85 WERE DETERMINED NOT TO
BE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.
>> YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE AND
THAT SHOULD BE PROTECTED.
PROJECT-- PROTECTED.
HOWEVER THAT VALUE OF THAT VOTE
ALSO MUST BE PROTECTED.
SO YOU CANNOT HAVE PEOPLE WHO
OTHERWISE ARE INELIGIBLE TO
VOTE, WHETHER THEY ARE NOT
CITIZENS OF THE UNITED SATES OR
FOR WHATEVER OTHER REASON.
>> EVERYBODY HOLD YOUR THOUGHT,
WE HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK.
HOLD ON.
WRDGES LIVE IN OUR STUDIO THIS
SUNDAY MORNING, A VERY LIVELY
ROUND TABLE, AND 4R5DEES AND
GENTLEMEN, LET'S MOVE ON IF WE
CAN TO A VERY I THINK POSITIVE
DEVELOPMENT, ED, IN CAR AKAS
YESTERDAY, THE MAYOR OF A
CARACAS SUBURB AT THE OPPOSITE
POLITICAL LEADER OF THE
OPPOSITION HAS BEEN IN JAIL ON
STRUMPED UP CHARGES FOR MORE
THAN THREE YEARS, FINALLY
ALLOWED TO GO HOME UNDER HOUSE
ARREST.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS.
>> I'M HOPING IT MEANS A CHANGE
FOR THE GOOD PLITD KAL
OPPOSITIONS MUCH AS WE LIKE TO
ARGUE AN TANGLE IT UP I ENJO I
IT BECAUSE IT ULTIMATELY MOVES
OUR COUNTRY IN A MATTER OF
SPEAKING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
WHERE EVERYBODY HAS A VOICE.
THERE FOR SO LONG UNDER THAT
THAT-- THEY HAD BASICALLY PUT
HIM IN JAIL.
AND SIGH LENGTHSED THE
OPPOSITION AND NOW HE'S OUT.
THE REASON WHERE THEY LET HIM
OUT ACCORDING TO THEM WAS
BECAUSE HE HAD HEALTH REASONS.
ALTHOUGH HE LOOKED FINE TO ME
THE VIDEO WE SHOWED LAST NIGHT,
HE LOOKED VERY HEALTHY STANDING
ON THE ROOF OF HIS HOUSE.
>> I THINK THAT WE HALVED PAST A
DIFFERENT POINT IN VENEZUALA,
EVEN WITH THE CARIBBEAN REGION
NOT SUPPORTING AND THE POPE IS
TRYING TO GET INVOLVED VENEZUELA
HAS GONE PAST THE POINT WHERE
THEY HAVE THE OPPOSITION AND THE
GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO GET TO THE
TABLE TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE
POLITICAL ISSUES THEY HAVE.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I CAN'T HELP
BUT THINK, A GOVERNMENT WILL DO
THINGS FOR THE OPTICS OF IT WHEN
MUCH-- GETS TOO MUCH.
IS.
PR FROM THE GOO-- HE HAS TO HANG
ON TO SOMETHING FOR LOPEZ AND
HIS FAMILY.
>> ALSO WE LET HIM GO, EVEN
THOUGH HE HAS HIS HEALTH ISSUE,
WE'RE LETTING HIM OUT.
>> NOT GOING TO QUIET THE
OPPOSITION.
>> IT IS NOT GOING TO QUIET OR
FEED ANYBODY STARVING.
IT IS NOT GOING T PROVIDE-- .
>> THERE IS A VOTE COMING UP,
HOWEVER MUCH THEIR VOTES WILL
COUNT, THERE WILL BE A.
>> WHAT IS NOT COMING UP IS A
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION QUI WHICH
IS WHAT THE OPPOSITION HAS
CALLED FOR AND MAD UROHAS NOT
CALLED THAT.
>> YOU HAVE AN ALL POWERFUL
GOVERNMENT, FOR THOSE OF US WISH
FOR A BETTER GOVERNMENT HERE, WE
SHOULD LOOK AT VENEZUELA BECAUSE
VARIATION.
>> YOU CAN NOT HAVE ABUSES IN
GOVERNMENT, EITHER WAY, WHETHER
IT'S HERE OR IN VENEZUELA.
ABUSES.
BUT I DONE THINK THE GOVERNMENT
OF THE UNITED STATES, STATE OF
FLORIDA IS ANALOGOUS TO WHAT
THEY HAVE GOING IN VENEZUELA.
>> WHEN YOU HAD CUBANS, WHEN
CASTRO CAME A BOARDS, WHETHER
THEY BELIEVED THAT THAT WOULD
HAPPEN AND SITTING HERE 50 YEARS
LATE WE ARE SUCH A TERRIBLE
STATE IN THAT COUNTRY, I WOULD
MAKE YOU A BET THAT THEY WOULD
ALL SAY I COULD NEVER IMAGINE
THAT HAD HAPPENED THEN.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT WE
HERE.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO ANOTHER
CIVIL LIBERTIES, I WANT TO RAISE
THE SUBJECT OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA
BECAUSE JOHN MORGAN THE PERSONAL
INJURY LAWYER FROM ORLANDO THIS
WEEK WENT TO COURT AND HE IS
SUES THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND
THE LEGISLATURE FOR NOT SAYING
THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA CAN BE
SMOKEABLE AND ANDREWA FOR
GOODNESS SAKE, WHEN PEOPLE, 71%
OF THE VOTERS SAY WE WANT.
>> THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, WHY IS
THE LEGISLATURE MEDDLING IN
THIS, MAKING CHANGES THAT DON'T
NEED TO BE MADE.
WE SAID WHAT WE WANT OR THE VOTE
ERRED SAID WHAT THEY WANTED.
>> THE FACT IS THAT THE DELIVERY
METHODS OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA,
THOSE PEOPLE WHO SUFFER FROM
DISABILITIES AND DISEASES, NEED
OPTIONS FOR THEIR OWN TREATMENT,
SMOKING IS A NOT IMPACTING
DELIVERLY-- DELIVERY MED, IT IS
ONE OF THE BEST DELIVERY
METHODS.
JOHN MORGAN IS PICKING A BAD
FIGHT WITH A PERSON RIGHT NOW.
OF POTENTIALLY HAVING SOMETHING
ON THE ELECTION BALLOT, I THINK
MR. MORGAN PROBABLY HAS A GOOD
SUIT AND I THINK THAT IT IS
INTERESTING, YOU TALK ABOUT OPEN
OPOIDS AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT
MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND THE
LEGISLATURE IS TAKING IT SLOW,
ABOUT HOW THEY OPEN UP TO
MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
FOR THOSE IN NEED THAT BECOMES
VERY FRUSTRATING.
I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE
CHILDREN WHO DESPERATELY NEED
THE OIL OF THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA
AND HAVE TO GO TO DIFFERENT
SHAME.
MEDDLING.
THINK ABOUT WHAT THE ISSUE IS
WITH THE OPOID.
FOUND OUT FOR PURPOSE-- WE ARE
HE HELPING PEOPLE FIND THE
TREATMENT THEY NEED.
>> THIS IS REALLY, ON THAT, 75
AMENDMENT.
>> PRETTY CLEAR.
>> THERE IS NOTHING TO SAY, A
DELIVERY METHOD, I THINK JOHN
MORGAN HAS A REALLY GOOD POINT
IN SAYING PEOPLE ASSUMED THAT IT
WAS ALL DELIVERY METHODS AND YOU
CAN'T TAKE BACK ONE OF THEM.
>> LIKE MOST CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENTS, THERE IS A LOT LESS
TO B FILLED IN.
>> AND THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T
LIKE VOTERS TELLING THEM WHAT
SHOULD BE AND WHAT SHOULD NOT BE
IN THE CONSTITUTION.
WE ALL KNOW THAT.
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN,
A GREAT ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION.
>> STILL TO COME, MY PERSONAL