NASSER WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE HIS
ABUSE FOR SO MANY YEARS.
MARTHA.
>> Martha: THANK YOU.
JOINING US NOW IN A STORY
EXCLUSIVE TONIGHT, POLITICAL
MENTALIST, DOMINIQUE MOCEANU.
AUTHOR OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
BEST-SELLING MEMOIR
"OFF-BALANCE."
GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE WITH US THIS
EVENING.
>> THANK YOU, GREAT TO BE WITH
YOU.
>> Martha: WHERE TO START?
WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR STORY AND
YOU HEAR THE WORDS OF MATTIE
LARSON FOR EXAMPLE, TALKING
ABOUT HOW EERIE IT WAS TO ARRIVE
YOU?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I LIVED AT THE CAROLI RANCH THE
SUMMER BEFORE THE '696
OLYMPICS AND THAT HOLDS SOME OF
>> Martha: WHAT DID HE DO TO
YOU THERE?
SPEAK OUT THERE WAS THE CONSTANT
PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE.
THE SCREAMING AND YELLING OF
JUST NOT BEING ABLE TO BE
PERFECT ENOUGH AND ALSO, THE
THREATS OF CALLING MY FATHER TO
ENFORCE PHYSICAL PUNISHMENT, THE
HUMILIATION AND BODY SHAMING
REGULARLY.
WOULD SAY TO YOU.
YOU ARE A 14-YEAR-OLD KID AT
THIS POINT.
WHAT KIND OF THINGS THAT THEY
SAY?
>> THEY WOULD CALL YOU NAMES
LIKE EASTER EGG AND YOU ATE TOO
MUCH AND IF I MADE A MISTAKE, IT
WAS BECAUSE I WAS TOO FAT AND IT
WASN'T MAYBE BECAUSE I WAS TIRED
WORK THROUGH OUR INJURIES.
I COLLAPSED IN THE GYM THE YEAR
BEFORE, THE SUMMER BEFORE THE
OLYMPICS AND I COLLAPSED IN THE
GYM AND MY LEG WAS FRACTURED.
THEY GRABBED ME BY THE BACK OF
MY NECK AND KIND OF SHOVED ME
OVER TO THE PHONE AND SAID GO
CALL YOUR PARENTS, IT MAY BE
YOUR LEG IS BROKEN.
IT WAS SUCH CRUELTY.
>> Martha: MATTIE LARSON SAID
SHE ONCE HIT HER ONE HEAD ON A
BATHTUB SO THAT SHE COULD CLAIM
SHE HAD A CONCUSSION AND SHE
WOULD NOT BE SENT TO THIS PLACE.
YOU LISTEN AND I WATCH SOME OF
THE OLYMPIC VIDEOS TODAY AND I
CAN HEAR BELLA CAROLI IN THE
BACKGROUND BECAUSE THEY HAD A
MIC ON HYMNS THAT EVERYONE COULD
HEAR HIM SAYING YES!
YES!
YOU NAILED IT!
YOU'RE SO GREAT.
CHEERING THEM ON.
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT, WE ARE
SHOWING EVERYBODY A PICTURE OF
THE TWO OF YOU AND A TINY LITTLE
ADORABLE YOU LOOKING UP.
WHAT'S GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND?
>> WHAT'S GOING THROUGH MY MIND
AS I HAD CONSTANT INTIMIDATION,
FEAR, AND CONTROL.
THESE PEOPLE TERRIFIED ME AND I
WAS VERY SCARED OF THEM WHEN I
WAS A 14-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL.
OBVIOUSLY NOW, NOT ANYMORE AND
IN DISCUSSING THE BEHAVIOR I SAW
WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION AND ALSO
WITHIN THIS HUGE GUSHING OF LOVE
FOR THE CAROLI'S AND THIS FACADE
THEY PORTRAYED ON TELEVISION.
THE BIG TEDDY BEAR, GREAT,
LIVING COACH.
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, THE REALITY
WAS VERY DIFFERENT.
>> Martha: THE ATTENTION IS
TURNING TO THEM NOW.
NOW THAT LARRY NASSER HAS HAD
HIS MOMENT IN COURT, THE CAROLI
RANCH IS NOW SHUTTERED.
THEY HAVE A SIGN OUTSIDE, THANKS
EVERYBODY FOR ALL THE GREAT
HEIRS AND ALL THE GREAT
MEMORIES.
DO YOU FEEL, LARRY NASSER, YOU
ARE NOT A VICTIM OF LARRY
NASSER'S BECAUSE YOU OVERLAPPED
HE WAS DOING TO THESE YOUNG
ATHLETES?
>> THE CAROLI'S AND WHAT WE ATE,
THEY KNEW HOW MUCH WE WAIT, THEY
KNEW WHEN WE TRAIN, THEY KNEW
WHO THEY WANTED ON THE OLYMPIC
TEAM AND TO SAY THAT THEY DIDN'T
KNOW ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING IS
QUESTIONABLE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T KNOW UNLESS
THEY SAY WHAT THEY KNEW.
IT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED.
I'M GLAD THAT SENATORS ARE
CALLING FOR IT AS TO WHY THIS
HAPPENED.
GOING ON RAMPANT FOR 30 PLUS
YEARS AND AT ALLOWED THE MOST
PROLIFIC IN OUR HISTORY AND MAY
BE IN ALL OF HISTORY JUST FOR
THIS YEAR COUNTLESS NUMBER OF
VICTIMS WALK THROUGH THE WALLS
OF THE SPORT.
IT'S REALLY, REALLY AWFUL, BUT
HE WENT UNCHECKED BECAUSE THE
CAROLI'S WANTED TO KEEP HIM
AROUND.
HE SAID WHAT SHE WANTED TO HEAR.
WHEN GIRLS WERE INJURED, HE
WOULD PRETEND TO PATCH THEM UP,
BUT REALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF HE
EVER ACCURATELY DIAGNOSED
ANYBODY.
>> Martha: THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
THE STORIES ARE THAT HE WOULD
GIVE GIRLS FOOD BECAUSE YOU WERE
ON SUCH A STRICT DIET THAT HE
WOULD LURE THEM WITH FOOD.
THEY SAID HE WAS THE ONLY NICE
ADULT.
I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU ONE LAST
SHE SAID HE WOULD DO THESE
TREATMENTS, WHICH I CAN ONLY --
THE ONLY WAY FOR ME TO SHED
GYNECOLOGIST THAN IT IS GOING TO
A PHYSICAL TRAINER.
HE WOULD DO THIS IN THE PRESENCE
OF OTHER ATHLETES AND PARENTS
AND ADULTS?
>> YES, HE WAS VERY SKILLFUL.
HE WAS A MASTER MANIPULATOR.
HE PUT A BLANKET OVER OR A TOWEL
OVER AND HE WOULD POSITION
HIMSELF WITH HIS BACK TOWARD THE
ATHLETE OR THE PARENT AND
GO-AHEAD AND SUBJECT HIMSELF TO
CERTAIN PLEASURE.
TAKING THE OATH THAT HE DIED, HE
WAS SUPPOSED TO DO NO HARM AND
INSTEAD, HE EXPLOITED CHILDREN
FOR HIS PLEASURE.
>> Martha: DOMINIQUE MOCEANU,
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE
DONE FOR YOUR REPRESENTATION OF
THIS COUNTRY AND THE OLYMPICS
AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A SON NOW
WHO IS COMPETING IN THE SPORT
THAT YOU LOVE AND I HOPE THAT'S
A GREAT WAY TO REBUILD ALL OF