>> GREG PALCOCK, NO BREAKS ON
THE WEEKEND.
>> THANKS, LAURA, FOR MORE
GORDON CHANG, ASIA POLICY,
AUTHOR OF NUCLEAR SHOWDOWN,
NORTH KOREA TAKES ON THE WORLD,
GOOD SEE YOU.
A MONTH AGO I HAD GONE TO YOU,
THE LEADERS OF NORTH KOREA AND
SOUTH KOREA ARE GOING TO MEET,
THEY ARE GOING TO SHAKE HANDS
AND MIGHT HAVE HUGGED, YOU MIGHT
HAVE SAID YOU'RE CRAZY, ED, NOW
THEY HAVE DONE IT TWICE.
>> THIS IS AMAZING, THREE
INTERKOREAN SUMMITS UP AND YEARS
BETWEEN EACH OTHER AND NOW WE'VE
HAD TWO IN SHORT SUCCESSION.
MOON JAE-IN IS PRONORTH KOREAN,
HE SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH
PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT NORTH
KOREA TO TAKE OVER THE SOUTH SO
I GET A BIT NERVOUS WHEN I SEE
BOTH KIM AND MOON IN THE SAME
PLACE BECAUSE THERE YOU HAVE A
NORTH KOREAN AND -- MUCH TOO
COZY.
>> WHAT DOES PRESIDENT TRUMP DO
TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT TOO COZY
AND THE UNITED STATES GETS A
GOOD DEAL?
DEMOCRATS LIKE NANCY PELOSI, THE
PRESIDENT SENT THIS LETTER, IT
WAS ALL -- TICKLY WITH KIM JONG
UN, ALL OF THE OVERDONE RHETORIC
AND THEY SAID HE'S BLOWN THE
SUMMIT AND HERE WE ARE, ACTUALLY
KIM JONG UN SEEMED TO BE ON
BENDED KNEE, HE DESPERATELY
WANTS TO MEET WITH PRESIDENT
TRUMP AND MAYBE PRESIDENT TRUMP
PLAYED IT JUST RIGHT?
>> FASCINATING, THURSDAY IN THE
MORNING, PRESIDENT TRUMP
WITHDRAWSDRAWS FROM THE SUMMIT,
ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WITHIN AN
HOUR OR SO, YOU HAVE THE NORTH
KOREANS ISSUE A STRING OF
MESSAGES, SAYING THAT THEY WOULD
BE WILLING TO GO FOR THE TRUMP
FACTOR QUOTE, UNQUOTE.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING.
WE HAVE NOW FOUND THE KEY TO
DEALING WITH THE NORTH KOREANS
AND --
>> THAT'S BASICALLY THE THREAT
OF FORCE AND ALSO THE SANCTIONS
TO CUT THE MONEY TO NORTH KOREA
AND WE HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT'S
AS GOOD AS HIS WORDS.
LOOK, I'M WILLING TO WALK AWAY.
>> HE DID THAT WITH THE LETTER
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THE AT
THE TIME, YOU GO BACK TO WHAT
THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, THIS IS
WILL BE THE END TO HAVE PEACE
PROCESS, THIS IS GOING TO BE
THERMAL NUCLEAR WAR, WELL, NO IT
WASN'T.
KIM CAVED IMMEDIATELY.
THAT TOOK ME BY SURPRISE.
>> LAST HOUR WE HAD A DEMOCRAT
BILL RICHARDSON ON OUR AIR, YOU
REACTED SHARPLY, I WANT TO PLAY
SOME OF IT.
>> I WISH IT NOT HAPPENED
JUNE 12TH, BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO
PREPARATION, WE NEED TO FIND
WAYS TO HAVE OUR MESSAGE BY ONE
PERSON.
I THINK THAT'S SECRETARY POMPEO,
OBJECTIVE, A STRATEGY, I THINK
WE ARE STILL NOT COMFORTABLE
WITH THE STRATEGY WE HAVE ON
DENUCLEARIZATION.
>> A VETERAN DIPLOMAT, DID A LOT
OF GOOD, AMBASSADOR TO UN AND
WHAT NOT, AS YOU AND I WERE
TALKING, HE AND OTHERS BOTH
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS,
ADMINISTRATION AFTER
ADMINISTRATION DID THE SAME
THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND
YET THIS PRESIDENT IS TRYING
SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND APPEARS
TO BE WORKING.
>> CERTAINLY.
RICHARDSON TALKS ABOUT
PREPARATION, I CAN SORT OF
UNDERSTAND THAT BUT ON THE OTHER
HAND WE'VE HAD LITTLE
PREPARATION AND WE'VE THE NORTH
KOREANS MAKE IMPORTANT
CONCESSIONS, THEY RELEASED THREE
AMERICANS AND MADE PUBLIC
COMMITMENTS TO DENUCLEARIZING
AND WE HEARD IN SUMMIT WHEN MOON
SAID KIM WAS WILLING TO GET RID
OF NUKES, KIM IS BEING CYNICAL.
THE OTHER THING THAT RICHARDSON
SAID IN THE INTERVIEW I THINK IS
CRITICAL, HE SAID, LOOK, THE
UNITED STATES AS IT PREPARES
NEEDS TO WEAVE IN CHINA AND
SOUTH KOREA, WELL, CHINA HAS
BEEN A MALIGN FACTOR, BUSTING
SANCTIONS OPENLY.
IT'S ENCOURAGING KIM TO BACK
AWAY FROM THE U.S., SO THE LAST
THING IN THE WORLD, ED, WE NEED
TO GET THE NORTH KOREANS AND THE
CHINESE AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.
WE NEED THE CHINESE OFF TO THE
SIDE.
>> "THE NEW YORK TIMES" STORY,
THE PRESIDENT BASICALLY TWEETED
IT WAS FAKE NEWS, DON'T BELIEVE
IT, THE JEST OF IT, THERE'S A
SPLIT ON THE ADMINISTRATION THEY
CLAIM WHERE HARD-LINERS LIKE
JOHN BOLTON, THERE HAS TO BE
DENUCLEARIZATION BEFORE YOU COME
TO THE TABLE WHERE THERE ARE
OTHERS LIKE SECRETARY MATTIS IN
PENTAGON, JUNE 129, WHATEVER DAY
IT IS, SHOULD BE THE BEGINNING
OF TALKS AND DENUCLEARIZATION
COULD HAPPEN IN MONTHS OR YEARS?
>> WE SHOULD DO IT AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE.
IN THE PAST WE HAD THE FAZED
ATTEMPT AND DIDN'T WORK FOR A
NUMBER OF REASONS. RIGHT NOW
PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN LOOK AT THE
TABLE, KIM, YOU'RE GIVING THEM
UP BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T I WILL
START SANCTIONING YOU, NORTH
KOREA, I'M GOING TO START
SANCTIONING CHINA FOR MONEY
LAUNDERING AND I WILL GET THE
RUSSIANS OUT OF THE PICTURE AND
ISOLATE AND THAT'S A VERY
IMPORTANT NOW.
>> THE SOONER THE BETTER.
>> WE HAVE RICHARDSON SAYING,
LOOK, COMPLETELY
DENUCLEARIZATION IS NOT
POSSIBLE, THAT'S NOT YOUR
OPENING BARGAINING POSITION AND
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE
STRIVING FOR AND THE PRESIDENT
SAID CLEARLY, THESE GUYS ARE
GIVING UP ALL NUKES, THAT'S GOT
TO BE OUR POSITION.
NOT ONLY WHAT WE SAY IN PUBLIC
BUT WE REALLY MEAN.
>> I'M SUPPOSED TO BE IN
SINGAPORE DO I GET A
NONREFUNDABLE TICKET?
>> NONREFUNDABLE TICKET.
>> YOU THINK IT'S HAPPENING?
>> LOOK, EVEN IF IT WASN'T
HAPPEN ON JUNE 129, IT'LL HAPPEN
SOON, THE NORTH KOREANS NEED TOO
MUCH FROM THE UNITED STATES
RIGHT NOW AND WE SHOULD STRIKE
WHILE THE IRON IS HOT.
>> WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY, NOT