INTERVIEW 10: The Dimensional Planes
So bringing the demon through,
obviously common sense would say, "If a demon wants to come in,
I have to go out." That's how I understood channelers worked, you know?
That's what I understood.
If a being comes through, there's only one that is able to inhabit this body.
So when a demon comes, I'll go out. So I did.
So in that moment, I just breathed in. I left my body.
And I had the demon to come in.
And that was the first time I experienced myself in the dimensions.
So now I was in the dimensions. In that one moment.
I was looking around. And everything was vast.
And there was a light. Pinkish-white color.
Yellow and white. it was quite pretty. Like a sunset.
And I look at my body, and I saw my body's moving.
I saw the demon inside, quite a vicious looking thing.
Big teeth, sharp. Gray.
But I could see it inside as it moving inside my body.
I looked and said, "Okay. My body's fine. There's a demon inside there.
And everybody is talking to this demon.
And I could see interdimensionally everything that was going on.
I could see my organs, the meridian lines, and the cells, and the expression of the energy.
You know, frequency movements. God knows what. Everything!
So I found myself in the dimensions. Now,
obviously for a moment, I didn't completely understand where I was.
I just kind of looked at everything.
And I saw like, you know, the white plates.
They looked like white plates going up. I went, hmm. Let me go up.
So I went up. Now this was quite a strange experience.
Because, there's no "walking" like a movement. Like a movement of yourself. So you've knida have to "move" up.
"Move" yourself "up." You just do it. Jeez, I can't explain to you "how," exactly. You just do it. You're able to do it.
So I started "moving up."
And there I met some beings on this "plane." Like a white glass.
And I met these beings. and I asked them, and I told them,
"Hi. My name is Winged. And I'm here in the dimensional existence, I suppose.
This is the dimensional existence, right?" I asked them this question, and they said, "yeah."
"Did you just die," they asked me.
And I said, "Possibly. In a way, yeah."
But the strange thing is, there's currently a demon i my physical human body.
I am here. And I'm just exploring.
Now, I want to know exactly where I am. You know, "What's going on here. Who are you guys? Now what's happening here?"
This is my first time actually experiencing all of this.
I've never read anything about the dimensions, or what it looks like, what's going on, how everyone is experiencing themselves.
Here I am, experiencing this first hand as myself.
They were all confused. Here I am, experiencing this first hand as myself.
They were all confused.
The first woman, her name was Clarise (I remember her, she was the first one),
and she says to me, "No. I can't believe it. It's impossible.
Your body cannot still be alive. Well, you're here. When you come here to this place, you are dead."
And then I started speaking about and telling her about-- okay,
"What is death then? Because it's impossible. Because my human physical body is still alive,
and I'm still here. So what is your definition of death?
They said, "When your physical human body dies and you come here, you have died ."
"Well, that's a little bit strange, because my body's still alive and there's a demon busy talking there, yet I'm still here and I 'm still experiencing myself."
You know, so, I had to show them were my physical human body is,
and that my body is still alive. I am still able to enter.
And all those experiences. Oh, yeah...
You know they took me to this place because they thought I'd "gone crazy?"
Because they thought that I hadn't -- I "Died," but I don't want to believe I had died.
I don't wanna make peace with it. They told me that if I hadn't made peace" with that now I died,
then I would end in up the demon dimension.
They really thought I was going mad. That I was crazy.
Because I had to "make peace" with the fact that I was dead.
And I just kept telling them and laughing, and saying, "I'm not dead! My body is still alive." And that was how I took them to my body and I said, "That's my body!
And it's still alive. Look! There's a demon inside it!"
And they couldn't believe it. So I had to show them. "I'm going back into my body." So I went back into my body.
(That was also strange, because, when I first told them, "Okay. I came out-- how do I get back in?)
And they showed me how I could "switch" time. I could go look into the past and look into the future.So I said, okay.
Well, if I knew how the demon got into my body, Then I'll know how to get back in.
Because I didn't know how to get back in. I don't even know completely, how I got out!
I just knew I'm here.
And, so I looked; past, how the demon got in. So they just stood in the center of my being, and they just "psssst"..
and intergrated themselves into the body. I said, okay. Let's me do that..." So I kind of went in sideways. Placed myself in the center and went back in...
and then I went back out and brought another demon in!
So I tell them, "Look. There's my body. Body still fine and alive. There's demons.
Now, I'm here experiencing myself in the dimensions.
And they were all shocked.
They all breathed in.