THEY GOT WAY AHEAD OF
THEMSELVESES ".
BUT WHO’S WINNING THE PR BATTLE
HERE AND HAS THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT DONE ENOUGH TO
EXPLAIN THEIR ACTIONS?
MEET THE PARTY PANEL.
IT’S A GOOD ONE.
WE HAVE ATTORNEY AND REPUBLICAN
STRATEGIST ALEXANDER WILKS.
WE HAVE STRATEGIST AND BIDEN
CAMPAIGNIST AND SURROGATE AND
COMEDIAN AND HOST PART OF THE
PROBLEM PODCAST AND HE MAY HAVE
A THING OR TWO TO SAY ABOUT THIS
HIMSELF.
ALEXANDER, I WILL START WITH
YOU.
THERE’S A LOT OF LEGAL QUESTIONS
HERE AND MERRICK GARLAND A LOT
OF TIMES SEEMS SURPRISED HE’S
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ACTS AS
THOUGH HE NEEDS PERMISSION FROM
SOMEONE TO SAY ANYTHING WHEN
REALLY IT’S UP TO HIM.
WHY SO MUCH STONE WALLING AND
SILENCE? IT WAS A VERY SHORT BRIEFING AND
IT WAS A VERY SHORT BRIEFING AND
HE TOOK NO QUESTIONS.
>> I THINK THIS SHOWS WEAKNESS
ON THE PART OF THE DOJ IN THIS
MATTER AND IT’S LED TO A LOT OF
CONFUSION OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE
THAT REALLY THIS IS AN EXAMPLE
OF WASHINGTON BUBBLE THINKING
WHERE THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND JUST
HOW MUCH SIGNIFICANCE SOMETHING
LIKE THIS WOULD HOLD TO A LOT OF
AMERICANS OUT THERE AND HOW
JARRING THIS WOULD BE.
THERE WERE JUST NO PLAN TO KEEP
THIS TIGHT AND CONTROLLED AND
MEASURED AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCY YOU WANT TO TAKE THE
TEMPERATURE DOWN ON SOMETHING.
NOT RATCHET IT UP AND WHEN
THERE’S NO INFORMATION BEING
PROVIDED, WHEN EVERYONE IS JUST
WATCHING THE SAME LIVE FOOTAGE
OF A DARK MAR-A-LAGO BEING
SURROUNDED BY GUYS WITH MACHINE
GUNS, PEOPLE WILL HAVE
QUESTIONS.
OF COURSE ON THE LEGAL MATTERS,
WE’RE NOT GOING TO KNOW ANYTHING
TILL WE SEE THE WARRANT AND
UNDERLYING AFFIDAVIT BUT TILL
THEN, THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE MORE
OF AN EFFORT TO CAREFULLY
RELEASE THIS INFORMATION LEADING
ME TO BELIEVE THAT MERRICK
GARLAND MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN WHAT
WAS GOING ON.
KENNEDY: HOW COULD THAT BE?
HE’S THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
THIS IS A FORMER PRESIDENT.
THIS ISN’T ROGER STONE, KEVIN.
THIS IS THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES.
IF IT WERE A FORMER DEMOCRAT
PRESIDENT, THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO
WAY THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN THIS
SHOW OF FORCE AND THIS MUCH
PERSONNEL TO GET BOXES OF
RECORDS.
KENNEDY: --
>> KENNEDY, LISTEN, THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL SAID TODAY IN RESPONSE
OF WHAT WE SAW ON MONDAY FROM
MAR-A-LAGO REINFORCING THE
INDENSE OF THE JUDICIARY THAT HE
WAS THE SIGN OFF AS THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL FOR THIS SEARCH OF MAR-A-LAGO.
IT WAS NOT THE [INAUDIBLE]
MOVING IN AND THEY WERE MOVING
IN AS THE FBI AND SEMPERRING THE
COMPOUND.
YOU SAID THIS WEEKEND AND I HAVE
SAID LET’S RELEASE THE WARRANT
AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT
THERE.
THAT’S WHAT HE -- KENNEDY: AND
THE AFFIDAVIT.
>> THAT’S WHAT HE INTENDED TO
DO.
ABSOLUTELY, I WANT TO SEE ALL
THE UNDERLINING DOCUMENTATION
BUT STARTING WITH THE WARRANT,
WHICH HOPEFULLY WE’LL SEE
TOMORROW.
KENNEDY: YES, BY 3:00 P.M. THE
AG HAS SAID THAT.
>> LET’S HOPE.
KENNEDY: DAVE, WE’RE GETTING
WRAPPED UP IN PARTICULARS AND
LOSING SIGHT OF WHAT’S REALLY
PROBLEMATIC HERE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
FOR MERRICK GARLAND TO SAY,
LOOK, THE FBI, WE JUST
FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE LAW.
THAT’S IT.
THERE’S NO POLITICIZATION GOING
ON HERE.
I MEAN, THIS IS ABSURD.
LOOK, THINK ABOUT THE CRIMES
THAT FORMER PRESIDENTS HAVE
COMMITTED.
BARACK OBAMA HIMSELF WHEN ASKED
ABOUT WHETHER HE WOULD PROSECUTE
THE GEORGE W. BUSH
ADMINISTRATION, HE SAID, LOOK,
WE TORTURED SOME FOLKS BUT WE
HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE CAN’T LOOK BACK WARD.
THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE FBI
SAYING, WELL, HEY, LOOK, WE
FAITHFULLY, BEHINDLY ENFORCE THE
LAW SO WE’RE GOING TO GO START
ROUNDING UP ALL THE BUSH
ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS.
AND BARACK OBAMA HIMSELF AS
DONALD TRUMP SAID, YOU KNOW, HE
SAID IT KIND OF SLOPPILY
CREATING ISIS BUT OBAMA
KNOWINGLY DID FUND ISIS IN
SYRIA.
THAT’S LITERAL TREASON BUT THE
FBI DIDN’T SAY WE HAVE TO
ENFORCE THE LAWS SO ARE YOU
TELLING ME THERE’S SOME CRIME
HERE THAT DONALD TRUMP COMMITTED
THAT IS SO MUCH MORE EGREGIOUS
THAN THE CRIMES OF PREVIOUS
PRESIDENTS?
OR IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS SAME
FBI, WHO AS ANDREW MCCABE SAID
IN HIS 60 MINUTES INTERVIEW THAT
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WAS
DETERMINED TO BRING DOWN DONALD
TRUMP AND THOUGHT ABOUT INVOKING
THE 25TH AMENDMENT AND SETTLED
ON SICKING A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR
ON HIM.
I THINK MOST AMERICANS KNOW
WHAT’S GOING ON HERE, EXCEPT THE
VERY, VERY BRAINWASHED
PROGRESSIVES WHO THINK DONALD
TRUMP WAS SOME UNIQUE EVIL ON
THIS COUNTRY.
THE IDEA THAT THE FBI IS NOT
POLITICIZED, THEY HAVE BEEN
POLITICIZED FROM DAY ONE. THEY WERE USED IN WORLD WAR I TO
THEY WERE USED IN WORLD WAR I TO
SPY ON ANTIWAR ACTIVISTS WHO
WOOODROE WILSON USED AND SPY ON
CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS.
THIS IS NOTHING NEW.
ASIDE FROM WHAT MODERN
REPUBLICAN VOTERS LIKE TO THINK
LIKE THEY JUST BECAME
POLITICIZED DURING THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, THIS IS THE
ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE FBI AND
SHOULD NEVER BE GIVEN THE
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND SHOULD
BE ABOLISHED.
KENNEDY: THEY’RE NOT GIVEN THE
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT BUT GIVEN
MORE POWER AND A CLANDESTINE WAY
TO OPERATE SO THEY CAN ABUSE
THAT POWER WITH VERY, VERY
LITTLE ACCOUNTABILITY AS THE
SURVEILLANCE STATES HAS BEEN
SOMEWHAT CHECKED.
THE POWER OF THE FBI HAS ONLY
GROWN, AND THEY HAVE HAD SO MUCH
MISSTEPS.
THIS DOESN’T DO ANYTHING TO HEEL
THE REPUTATIONAL -- HEAL THE
REPUTATIONAL DAMAGE THEY’VE
TAKEN ON WITH THE MISSTEPS.
I HOPE AT SOME POINT -- AND THE ONLY THING THAT’S GOING TO DO IT
ONLY THING THAT’S GOING TO DO IT
IS A COMPLETE AUDIT AND A COME C
UP PENCE AND GETTING RID OF ALL
SENIOR LEADERSHIP, TOM
MCCLINTOCK SAID THAT LAST NIGHT
AND WE SHOULD DO THAT ACROSS THE
BOARD WITH MANY AREAS OF SENIOR
LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT WE NEED TO
START WITH THE FBI.
THE QUESTION ON EVERYBODY’S
MIND, IS THERE A RAT IN TRUMP’S
INNER CIRCLE.
THE RAID WAS BASED ON CLASSIFY
INFORMATION FROM AN INSIDE
SOURCE.
A FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TELLS
FOX THAT PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THE
WARRANT LIKELY CAME FROM A
SECRET SERVICE AGENT.
I SAID IT TODAY ON OUTNUMBERED.
THE FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF
STAFF NICK MULVANEY SAID THE
TIPSTER COULD BE CLOSER TO TRUMP
THAN WE THINK.
>> IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY VERY
CLOSE INSIDE THE PRESIDENT AND
MY GUESS IS THERE’S PROBABLY SIX
OR EIGHT PEOPLE WITH THAT KIND
OF INFORMATION.
I DON’T KNOW THE PEOPLE ON THE
INSIDE CIRCLE THESE DAYS SO I
CAN’T GIVE ANY NAMES OF FOLKS
WHO COME TO MIND, BUT YOUR
INSTINCT IS A GOOD ONE.
IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE SAFE IS
AND THAT DOCUMENTS ARE IN TEN
BOXES IN THE BASEMENT, YOU ARE
PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT.
KENNEDY: IS THERE A LEAKER ON
THE LOOSE?
WHO COULD IT BE?
THAT’S WHAT I SAID.
THE SECRET SERVICE LET THE FBI
IN.
THE FBI DIDN’T HAVE TO HAVE A
BATTALION OF ARMED AGENTS WHEN
THE SECRET SERVICE IS KEEPING
THAT RESIDENCE SAFE.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE SECRET
SERVICE, THEY ARE SWORN
OFFICERS.
THEY WEAR TO UPHOLD THE -- SWEAR
TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION.
THEY’RE NOT GOING TO LET DONALD
TRUMP RUN AROUND WITH PLANS TO
OVERTAKE THE UNITED STATES WITH THE HELP OF RUSSIA.
THE HELP OF RUSSIA.
SO WHO COULD IT POSSIBLY BE?
ALEXANDRA?
>> IT’S THIS TYPE OF SPECULATION
CREATING THE CONFUSION OUT THERE
AND SO ANGERING TO SO MANY
AMERICANS AND THE LITANY OF
SCANDALS WE HAVE SEEN NOT REALLY
PLAY OUT OR FIZZLE OUT LIKE THE
RUSSIA INVESTIGATION FOR
EXAMPLE.
I THINK THERE’S A REAL FEELING
ON THE PART OF A LOT OF
AMERICANS THAT THE FORMER
PRESIDENT IS JUST KIND OF
CONSTANTLY UNDER ATTACK.
THAT HE IS CONSTANTLY UNDER
SIEGE FROM PEOPLE, WHETHER IT
WAS PEOPLE WHO WORKED IN THE
BUREAUCRATIC PARTS OF THE
GOVERNMENT TRYING TO DIVERT HIS
AGENDA OR EVEN THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT WAS LOOKING INTO HIS
CAMPAIGN.
THERE’S, I THINK, A LEGITIMATE
FEELING ON THE PART OF MANY OF
AMERICANS OUT THERE THAT HE HAS
BEEN UNDER ATTACK, AND I THINK
THAT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT
MEASURES LIKE THE INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT, WHICH JUST HIRED
87,000 NEW IRS AGENTS.
MANY AMERICANS ARE FEELING
COMPLETELY UNNERVED THINKING
ABOUT, WELL, IF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT CAN GO AFTER A FORMER
PRESIDENT IN THIS WAY AND WITH
SUCH CONFUSION AND JUST SUCH
DISARRAY, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
FOR ME WHO DOESN’T HAVE ACCESS
TO THE BEST LAWYERS IN THE
WORLD?
WHO DOESN’T HAVE ACCESS TO THE
BEST COMPLIANCE.
KENNEDY: I’M GOING TO TALK TO
DARRYL JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THAT, ABOUT THE WEAPONNIZATION.
NOT ONLY THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE AND THE FBI BUT THE IRS.
WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BULLETS.
WE KNOW THEY HAVE GUNS.
WE KNOW WHAT THEY’RE COMING
AFTER.
THEY’RE COMING AFTER THE
BEGINNINGS OF YOUR WEALTH.
THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM
YOU.
THAT IS A GOVERNMENT TAKING.
TAXIZATIONIS THEFT.
TAXATION IS THEFT.
DAVE, WHO COULD IT HAVE BEEN?
DAVE: I DON’T KNOW.
THERE’S TWO GROUPS: TOM -P
LOYALISTS AND THE SECRET
SERVICE.
SEEMS MORE LIKELY TO BE THE
SECRET SERVICE BUT IT NOT
IMPOSSIBLE IT COULD HAVE BEEN A
TRUMP LOYALIST.
I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK IT’S A
BIT BACK WARD TO SAY, IF THEY
CAN DO THIS TO TRUMP, THEY CAN
DO IT TO ANYBODY.
I THINK IF THEY CAN DO IT TO
ANYBODY, EVENTUALLY THEY CAN DO
IT TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES.
THE TRUTH IS THE IRS AND FBI AND
ALL TYPES OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS
THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, THEY DO
THIS TO REGULAR PEOPLE ALL THE
TIME.
THERE’S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
SWAT RAIDS EVERY YEAR IN THIS
COUNTRY.
IT’S -- FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT, THEY
HAVE LIVED THROUGH
TOTALITARIANISM AND NO ONE
REALLY CARES EXCEPT
LIBERTARIANS, I GUESS.
NO ONE CARES TILL IT’S A HIGH
PROFILE ONE.
KENNEDY: ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THEY WILL OCCASIONALLY PUBLISH
STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
BEEN VICTIMS OF CIVIL ASSET
FORFEITURE AND I SAID THAT LAST
NIGHT.
THAT’S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS
LOOKING LIKE, BUT ALSO IF YOU’RE
SORT OF READING BETWEEN THE
LINES HERE, KEVIN, I WOULDN’T
WANT TO GO BACK TO THE WHITE
HOUSE IF I WAS MELANIA.
I MAY CALL SOMEBODY AND BE LIKE
IT’S IN MY CLOSET.
GO LOOK IN THERE.
>> SHE DIDN’T WANT TO GO TO THE
WHITE HOUSE THE FIRST TIME.
I WATCHED YOU ON OUTNUMBERED
THIS MORNING, KENNEDY, AND I
THINK YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT IT
WAS BARON.
I THINK IT’S TIFFANY TRUMP.
MY MONEY IS ON TIFFANY DOWN IN
MAR-A-LAGO TIPPING SOMEBODY OFF.
KENNEDY: THE PLAT THICKENS AND