naman israel hiring steen are higher
irene steve i hope i'm pronouncing his last incorrectly but nice he has
dedicated his entire life to helping women who have grown up in strict
religious environments uh... men and women actually go out there and date
secular people
now this is incredible because i didn't grow up in an environment like this but
a lot of people do others a woman by the name of sayre these helping out who grew
up in california in the strictest hasidic sects
and basically she was told that she is not allowed to speak to people from
other religions
she is supposed to do is she's told in fact she had never had a conversation
with the secularists in her entire life
until she decided that she would leave the religion
so she uh...
ended up being forced into a marriage she had met the guy for an our and then
had to marry him it's a really sad story because she uh... the first night that
they had sex with one another she was so repulsed by it that for months afterward
aid kept making excuses she didn't want to see potential come up with excuses he
got tired of it to arrange for a bank account and left her
that was when she decided and no one on one if all this relation and one of the
an independent woman
she got a job that she wasn't crazy about that she saved enough money to
move to new york and uh... seek help from israel
now it's incredible because you you would be about her story and how she
goes to clubs and bars and that religion has completely shaped the way that she
thinks about herself how she thinks about others when she goes to a bar she
thinks that all men are gonna be pays now i'm gonna wanna sleep with her which
might be true actually syphilis
but but it's amazing how this indoctrination
ten shift the way that you would be the entire world and how do you view
secularists people people who are not the same religion as you people don't
believe in religion is a at all those people are denies the point where you're
free to talk to them yeah
what's interesting though it doesn't just shake hell she views people have
said his relationships but
proceed views
everything basically she thinks going into you know these social situations
that their rules for everything but she says he ran if i go on a date with him
what i have to sleep with him
or if i'd go out at night dot i have to dress up but she thinks because she was
raised in an environment a very strict rules about
basically everything that you do but that will continue now even once about
the relationship
i think the at an interesting this speculation
around that area is
there's talks about
uh... say in europe about wearing like a head job or something other religious
uh... attire that that certain women will wear
opponents will say that they're being forced to wear the is some women on the
inside will say no to choice we made
but when we see how strongly the world view of these when inside these very
devout religion scams structure how they view the world
at what point does
actually slightly but not really mean what we think it does
if she doesn't even know how to walk up to stranger and talk to them without
these expectations are what you think so the exhortations passionately choice
about what she's gonna wear around people won't sector where certain things
and different aspects like that you know that's not and excellent point because
she's living she grew up in california you know who state and given the fact
that she wasn't such a free environment it didn't matter because our family had
such strict religious beliefs
that she was kind of um... reason this bubble and it really impacted all the
choices she made her life
i'm just find it fascinating what it would be like to break out of that
bubble pop out of that bubble right and go out into the dating world and
experience new things oblivious to her story was fascinating attitude really
think you guys you redo it was published in slate
hedges i think it's something that i can relate to so that's why i'm so
interested in it but i'd love that she was strong enough to go out there find a
job
become independent and move to new york and do big things with her life i think
one thing that i think is interesting about is that while she has a
particularly fake bubble perhaps and you know she's been in a very small
community talking to the same sort of people
having that everybody has something like this
but i don't go to bars and talk to random people that often i'd probably
would have weird assumptions about how that would go or how i should act
i think that everybody comes from a certain
social and relationships our point of view
and if i think that this guy israel eisen signs java some interesting i
could see it being successful with x mormons for instance
or maybe in the future after couple more decades of people communicating almost
exclusively for facebook and twitter and things like that
basically everybody who has no idea how to go to a bar and have a conversation
with a stranger
um... i think that this sort of training is interesting
it is interesting and by the way the social media and social awkwardness
aspect of this is really really fascinates me because you know i grew up
uh... having to have face-to-face com conversation in communication in order
to date but now we're increasingly depending on
you know online dating social media in order to interact with one another and i
was just having a discussion with my friend has trying online didi
and she says i realize after going on several dates
that online dating is for the socially awkward so you go out on these dates in
your thinking this guy is so opening up a holistic interesting
you go on these two
dates and it usually consists of
yes you know like where you guys are really talking to one another because
there's that social awkwardness
yadav art was very interesting because uh... did molecular streets how
isolating
these religions are meanness that's what they did they make these women or or or
young man whoever may be
completely and utterly
payment on that particular social structures of
they could have the strength to break out of it but was a breakout of it's not
like everything's fine now please communicate and make the rest of the
world their high speed and they're very alone even though they're in a big city
in the iraqi people
all day long you know really do it andheri
they don't know how to interact and they just in their own little bubble that
they were in before but now they're just not beable alone which is often why the
sometimes just go back to you have to breaking away because they said there's
no other alternative
so this guy is our esteem is provided we get serviced by our i'd also
cover
you know i'm a little suspicious of his motives you do you think it's china i
don't know either all these women who've never did that all explained me what to
do he actually that's adults
limine is pretty appropriate invaded quoted them a chance for
i don't know i don't want come on let's let's land air and light add we're going
to have gotten probs projecting yet
headed back up for it by the way
monogamous of going into this it's it's sort of a big let's let let's give it to
you see that the u_n_ contact
help anyway
um... losing to say as notice though that a very common component with
fundamentalism
is you know police making sure that the woman is dependent rex if she can't
leave
and that's why i this woman stories so inspiring i think for people who did
grow up in environments like this because
even though she was left with no money she found a way to become independent go
to new york into big things with her life and that that's what i really liked
about the story when i took away from it