What's the dumbest question you've ever been asked?
Where did we meet?
Seriously?
Yeah.
Who the f*ck asked that?
I'm gonna do something where I want to go right back-
To the womb.
Yes, how was the womb was it good?
It was so comfortable,
I-
Every day I wake up and I realise
another day to be lived.
We want to go back.
Can they put us back?
No.
Well, I mean the night is young,
who knows what science is gonna deliver us.
When was the moment you both realised,
you had musical talent
and it was something shared?
We actually just watched a video
a couple days ago
of when we were about six months old,
and we're in our bassinet
and we're bouncing each other
because our feet are touching each other's
and we're singing in harmony.
Like there's no words just a lot of noise
coming out,
but we're actually doing it in harmony
and in sync with each other
intrinsically there's something there
from the very beginning
that we were always meant to do.
We started doing like little performances and,
so we were actually on stage
from the age of five.
In all the years since have you ever,
Have you ever considered something else?
No.
Could you do anything else?
No.
Well, no.
This is it.
Cos you,
play me like a symphony.
We grew up in the North suburbs of Brisbane
When you step into the music industry or Hollywood,
I mean we moved to Hollywood -
we were 19 years old.
We moved out of our parents house in Brisbane
to Los Angeles -
middle of Hollywood,
by ourselves,
just signed
the biggest deal with Warner Brothers Records
over there that
you know had been signed
in like the past ten years or something.
But none of the stuff that came along with that
was ever out frame of reference
for what is important and real.
Yeah.
That's something that you're sort of like -
like here's a world
that you get to step into and play with and-
That was fun!
Yeah.
That was exciting and fun
but it was never real.
But if you take your value
On other people's opinion of you
That can only really rock you
If you aren't sure of who you are.
But that's, I mean, that's so many people
in careers in the public eye.
You hear people talk about getting the high-
They crave validation.
Yeah.
See me, look at me.
We were very much like that as kids
I mean this videos of Jess saying:
I'm the star of the show,
look at me!
Yeah I felt very unseen as a twin,
We're treated like one person
From everybody
and it's like
Well not- but me.
Like - but why don't you see me?
When did that that idea sort of crystallise
in your head that you were fighting
individually to be seen,
even though you obviously
have this great deep connection.
Is there a moment where you both went -
actually I do want to be seen as me by myself.
25
25 - Wow that was way more specific
than I was expecting.
I would not have even realised
that that was something that was playing out
until we're about 25.
I personally don't think I ever struggled with it.
Okay
There was definitely moments when,
I think-
clearly -
- you felt like -
Lisa had a harder time with me individualising.
Whereas I had a harder time individualising.
Right, okay yeah.
Does that make sense?
Do you - no, Lisa's like, hmm, yeah.
I was confused.
I was confused because
Jess was doing quite dramatic things
to set herself apart.
No, see, even that language:
'Set myself apart'
No!
I was actually just being myself
But that was my interpretation of it.
See - let me f*cking talk, please.
I was just correcting that.
Well you're correcting it, I'm okay.
Just let me finish talking and I'll correct it myself.
What I mean by that is
I took it personally,
when really Jess was just expressing herself.
so it's like
Oh Jess went and got all these like
tattoos down her arm.
like that's because she wants to be different from me,
but really you know
Jess was into tattoo culture,
that was like a genuine interest of hers
that I didn't necessarily have.
So things like that I think were
kind of confusing for me.
Yeah, do you think the
focus that gets put on your relationship
because of the twin factor,
do you think it's perhaps an unfair level of scrutiny?
I get it I'm fascinated with twins.
I've read so many books on twins,
I had a twin therapist
who would literally
deconstruct the psychology of an upbringing of twins.
specifically identical twins.
So I get the fascination with it.
People love to-
It's also that safe place
to put your energy,
because there's so much going on I mean,
you're on the road,
there's so many outside forces,
there's a lot of pressure, there's a lot of work.
Where are you gonna turn?
Because you can't -
you really shouldn't yell at the people around you.
No.
So where are you gonna put that space?
That energy goes towards each other.
You have a fight with your sibling,
you probably don't have to deal with them,
for like a week or two.
But this is a family business right?
This is a family business,
our livelihood depends on
us somewhat getting along.
you know,
I love the 'somewhat'.
There's a range we can work in.
You know - a very wide range.
But it's like yeah you know,
it is such an interesting karma and dynamic
The one thing that is interesting is how many games
people will get you to play as twins
that pit you against each other
and that's something that as we get older
and older,
That's interesting.
We've realised that that's actually not very healthy,
because who's the cleaner twin?
who's always late?
the better singer?
Who's the better singer?
Who's the prettier twin?
Who's the smarter twin?
Nobody's ever asked us who the prettier twin is
because that's pretty obvious.
You two, seriously.
You set me up for that!
I don't mind.
I'm kidding.
I'm married.
I don't, I don't even have to be pretty.
I guess that means she's the prettier twin.
You also-
It's not that healthy.
You also like buy into it in a-
like you know there are cameras on you right now,
so you're doing,
you buy into it in a cute kind of way as well.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
We've had cameras on us since we were five years old.
My parents taped everything.
We literally have an entire warehouse.
What it is,
is - we're with each other a lot,
so we have -
- a witness
We have a built in-
a witness 24/7
Yeah.
You're being witnessed by somebody 24/7.
So is that accountability,
or does that feel like surveillance?
Absolutely/Accountability
Sorry I shouldn't.
A bit of both.
We said, you know how call out culture's
becoming a big thing online?
We've grown up with call out culture right here.
You're saying you were raised
basically being filmed
from a really, really young age,
Honestly,
where there times you kind of wished
there was less material there?
Oh we love it.
You know it's actually beautiful.
We have so much footage,
we were showing our mum,
our mummy isn't well,
at the moment so sitting down with her
and being able to look back through it all,
recently, was
one of the most beautiful experiences.
Your mum is going through dementia at the moment.
Yes.
What what have you learnt
as you've seen your mum
go through that?
I think that
when you see somebody that you love diagnosed,
it really shows you-
You're confronted with mortality.
Your entire family is confronted with
the idea of mortality.
When most people don't have to necessarily confront it
to that level.
It's very confronting.
Have the videos been helpful?
Incredible/The greatest, yeah
and music too.
So with people living with dementia,
music actually sits in a different part
is processed through a different part of the brain.
and so somebody
even in the very late stages of dementia,
If they hear music
they can still experience certain things:
memory or feeling recall to those songs.
and she's the one that actually said:
you know:
"Where's your music?"
"Get back in the studio I want to hear new music."
and it was like, okay it's time.
Jess, Lise,
Thank you both so much for talking to us,
really appreciate it.
You're amazing,
thank you so much for such an awesome chat.
Thank you.
Truly that was really special.
What a wonderful chat.
Hey there, my name is Marc Fennell
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