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We want to talk about the iPhone X today.
And what we thought we'd do is each think of three talking points surrounding the phone
and then talk about them for a minute or so.
So, I wanted to talk about the actual new design.
JED: OK.
ALEX: Face ID.
JED: Yeah, of course.
Alex: And...
The wireless charging.
JED: That's a big thing for the iPhone.
ALEX: And how Apple are just late to everything.
JED: Literally, literally they've taken every Android phone, smashed it altogether and they're
super late and everything but, from what I'm seeing...
ALEX: It's probably going to be a masterpiece. JED: Mad, yeah.
JED: I want to talk about the new camera, the optical stablisation, the new, erm, obviously,
like, improvements on the depth effect, erm, and that new studio lighting thing that they've introduced.
ALEX: Now that is really, really, really cool.
JED: Erm, I want to talk about the fact that there's no home button or Touch ID because
I feel like that's going to be something crazy that people are just going to really miss.
Like, I, recently, have been using this iPhone 6 which is goodness knows - three years old now
- and I love the fact that, because I've never had a phone that has...
ALEX: But that's the thing - that's three years old.
This came out last year but even in the last ten years, Apple have always had the home
button.
JED: They've always had - they've...
This is the first time Apple have ever, ever changed the front or just the general, really,
the general look of the phone.
Because even the four - the iPhone 4 looked very similar to this.
ALEX: But they've all has a button at the bottom.
JED: They've all had a...
Always, on every, every Apple device, bar, obviously, the old iPod classics and all that
kind of stuff, they've always had, ever since, like, day one, the iPod touch, always had
a Home button.
And I think it's just something which everyone's going to hate or is just going to miss.
ALEX: Right then, so, let's kick all of this off with Face ID.
Face ID.
What were your thoughts on Face ID?
I had the Samsung Galaxy S8 for a while and, obviously, that is probably the only phone
that I can compare it to in terms of Android, that has something similar to Face ID.
It has Iris scanners, right.
ALEX: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
JED: So you hold your phone up, you look at your phone and it has an iris scanner and just scans your eyes.
That was just a flop.
I had to shoot an advert for it.
I was sat there with the actor for, like, a good, sort of, maybe, like, an hour just
trying to get it to recognise his face and it just wouldn't work.
ALEX: So it wasn't - it just wasn't reliable at all.
JED: No, not reliable at all.
Something that just... It was just one of those...
It was a novelty feature, it was novelty and that's all it was and that's all it will ever be.
Whereas this thing with Face ID - from what I've seen, on the Key Note, and even though there
was a bit of a mess up on the Key Note, I heard...
ALEX: Obviously, I am really sceptical because I've used the S8 as well and that has been,
it wasn't the best phone for, like, Face ID or facial recognition or whatever you want to call it.
But, if Apple are going to take the vast move to remove Touch ID...
JED: Other than to physically, old school, type in a code, that is the only way of unlocking your phone.
ALEX: Yeah. Exactly.
And if they're going to remove Touch ID which is just phenomenal, it's phenomenal.
JED: It is one of the best things that people have introduced to phones.
Just the fact that, even this phone which is three years old can unlock my phone.
ALEX: With a fingerprint. JED: ...In literally two seconds with a fingerprint.
And that's three years old.
Yours does it like that.
ALEX: Yeah, like that.
And it's that good.
And if they're going to replace that with Face ID, it's, that's what I think, it's obviously
going to be good but I'm still, I'm still sceptical.
JED: It's one of those things that you're going to have to, like, literally see it to believe it.
ALEX: Yes.
I think, I'm hoping it's going to be good.
But then that leads us on to the second point: No home button.
Which is what you wanted to talk about.
What do you think?
JED: I just; bad idea. Personally, because, I like it.
I love the look of the home button.
And it's, it's...
Like, when I look at an iPhone, any iPhone, from the iPhone 3, the first iPhone, the very first iPhone... ALEX: They've all had them. JED: The very smartphone that came out.
JED: ...The very first, it was the first smartphone, right? ALEX: Mmmm.
The very first smartphone that ever came out; always been the main feature of the iPhone. It just always has.
ALEX: It's been the iconic thing.
JED: Literally, the iconic thing is just putting that thumb on your home button to go to your home.
And that's just always been the main thing and now they've just kind of gone: No, that's it. We're done.
ALEX: I mean, I'm happy because you've got to move forward and you've got to say bye
to the past and move on from things and I totally understand that.
But I think the way they've gone around it hasn't been the best.
Hear me out here.
Swiping up to get to home.
Why not, why not have...
They've implemented force touch and it's, and it works and it's brilliant.
Why not have it so that you can force touch the bottom?
JED: That's, literally, like, the Samsung Galaxy S8, because it is, in terms of design,
comparable to the iPhone you know, it's...
ALEX: Yep, yep.
JED: But, that has a home button and you can't even see it at all...
It looks seamless completely, from top to bottom - no home buttons or anything.
And you can press where you know the home button's going to be in the screen and it pops up.
And they say... I feel like they could have just implemented that with the iPhone.
Because no one wants to go like that to get to the home screen.
ALEX: So you've got to go like that... Yeah... JED: It's quicker to go...
JED: One click of a button... Or it's one...
ALEX: And now you've got to start swiping and then if you want to get to the notification
center, it's a swipe down from the top right and then if you want your notifications, it's
the top left.
JED: Yeah.
ALEX: And it's just like, capacitive touch for the home button.
Swipe up as you normally would from the bottom for the control center and swipe down from
the top to get your notifications, like it's always been.
JED: The main thing I'm more concerned about is you know when you go to use Apple Pay?
You click it and you use touch ID to... ALEX: Yeah, to authenticate it.
JED: How are you going to that with Face ID?
So, you're not going to have...
Say, say with your phone, right.
The credit card thing is like that.
And you're going to have to go like that.
ALEX: Well that's the thing.
I have it turned off.
JED: But now what you're going to have to do.
ALEX: I have it turned off.
Usually, if you double click the home button, it will bring up the Apple Pay terminal to...
But I, I don't have that turned on.
I just have it so you have to put it over the terminal.
But I think that that's not going to be a thing anymore.
I think you're going to have to double click it, look at it and then scan.
JED: Because that's just going to be... ALEX: Just another thing.
Design.
I like it.
I like the design.
JED: It looks amazing. It looks so cool.
ALEX: Black or white?
JED: Actually, do you know what, for the first time, I think I'm going to say white.
I normally hate the white iPhones.
I think that the six and seven looked great in black with the black screen and the sort of, dark back.
But I really like the white. I think it's because of the bezel. There's no bezel.
ALEX: The fact that it always has the black front.
JED: Yeah.
ALEX: All they do is change the back.
Which is lovely.
JED: Yeah, because that's what I hate about these ones.
When you've got the white glass in the front, it makes the screen... ALEX: You see the dots.
JED: ...That it makes the screen just, like... Here it is.
ALEX: Not as immersive.
JED: Yeah, it's not as... seamless.
Whereas the new one with the white looks really nice.
ALEX: And obviously you've got the, you know, the amazing screen that goes all the way to the edge.
It's going to be... It's a very nice designed phone.
JED: I mean, the one thing I did notice, as soon as I saw it, the first thing I saw... And when I just literally saw the front of the phone.
Because Apple and Samsung have always been those two companies that have always just, kind of, copied each other a little bit...
ALEX: Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
JED: In terms of, not in terms of design normally, but I feel like the iPhone X has kind of mimicked the S8 a little bit.
But I think that that might just be because that is the only other phone which is pretty much bezel-less ALEX: Yes!
Yes it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's just the way it's going.
JED: Yeah.
ALEX: That's just like one company creating an SSD for example and then another company creates an
SSD and it's like: No, because that's the way the world is going, to SSDs.
JED: Because I didn't like the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge because I, it was so rounded that when I held it normally, like a normal phone,
my fingers were touching the screen and it was making, like, a swipe ALEX: Yes, yeah, false swipe yeah.
JED: And then the S8 was really nice because they kind of got the bezel just right. It wasn't too folded over but it wasn't not folded over.
ALEX: Mmmmm, yeah, yeah.
JED: The iPhone, I think they might have got it right.
ALEX: I think they've nailed it.
Design out of ten, I'm going, I'm going, like, a nine.
Nine and a half out of ten.
JED: Yeah, I'd say the same thing. Because, basically, from the back...
Ah!
Bar the glass.
ALEX: Do you not like the glass back?
JED: I trashed my iPhone 4.
One drop.
I know it says it's really durable glass but at the end of the day, glass is glass...
JED: You're going to drop it and it's going to smash. ALEX: It's glass.
JED: It's glass.
I don't know.
I think that that was a bad move.
Mainly because I love the metal. Metal looks so good on a phone.
It feels good as well.
Do you know what I mean?
I just feels like it's going to, it's either going to make it feel really premium or it's
going to make it feel a little more tacky.
It's a grand for a start.
ALEX: The whole thing about the phone is that you're going to have to wait and see.
OK, so, wireless charging.
Generally, nabbing features from Android, which is what any Android person would say.
Erm, I would, my argument is that Apple wait to get the technology right and then implement it.
But that's not the same with wireless charging because wireless charging is wireless charging.
You can't get it right...
It works, it's just wireless charging.
JED: I think, I think they were just a bit slow.
ALEX: They were just a bit late to the party.
JED: It's not even that.
They just, like, really irritate me because even this phone, the six, which is ten years
old, has the technology in it to have wireless charging.
But they've just only implemented it for Apple related things. ALEX: Oh, you mean an FC?
JED: Yeah, you can use Apply pay, which is NFC, which realistically could give you wireless charging but they've decided to use it for just an Apple based program.
ALEX: So you can't do any NFC anywhere else other than Apple Pay.
JED: Other than Apple Pay, you can't do anything.
Which I think is just, like, a bit of a, just Apple all over, isn't it? You can use it. You can use it.
Like, when I used Siri earlier to see when this phone came out, it took me straight to the Apple website.
ALEX: Marketing, marketing,
it's all marketing.
Camera.
I like cameras.
JED: Yeah, I love cameras.
But the seven, so, the seven plus, introduced the dual camera thing.
Two cameras on a phone.
Like, crazy.
Some cameras have had it in the past.
Not very well.
Now, Android phones are mimicking the same thing.
We've got the G5, is it?
Or the G6? By LG
That have got dual cameras.
ALEX: One plus five.
JED: Yeah, one plus five.
There's tonnes of other phones that have got dual cameras on them now.
The new Nokia, I think, is also running it.
And I think, realistically, that Apple are the only ones that have actually ever got it right.
In terms of the in-depth effect, it's unbeatable.
The One Plus Five, the bottom looks a bit weird, it's sort of a bit... ALEX: Artificial.
JED: ...Artificial.
Whereas you've taken some photos of me using the portrait mode and it's phenomenal.
ALEX: It looks like an SLR.
JED: It does.
ALEX: It genuinely does.
JED: It's scary how good it is and it's just going to get to the point where it's going
to be implemented in video and then people like us are going to get cut out of the game
a little bit because you can literally do it all on your phone now.
Which is a shame but it's also, just, literally mind blowing because it's just so good now.
And I can only presume that it's going to get, like, completely upgraded in the iPhone X
because you've got this new thing with the whole sort of, like, smart lighting, what's it called?
Studio lighting and all of that kind of thing.
ALEX: Yeah, well, that's the thing, yeah, mmm...
JED: Basically, delete the background and have a black background and make it look like
you're in the studio which...
ALEX: Which, the virtue is the AR, the augmented reality, but, if you think about it, Apple
haven't changed their phones from 12 megapixel shooters on the back for so long.
They've been 12 megapixels.
So, they're not really changing the hardware.
What they're doing is slightly altering the hardware to then create better software with
the slight hardware alteration.
JED: Yeah.
ALEX: So, like, the depth effect is getting better and all of the little special effects
that they do now with the, obviously, as you said, deleting the background and, literally,
like, we have studio lighting in this room to make us look the way we do, to make this
look really sharp and to make us look really good.
JED: Yeah, yeah.
ALEX: And imagine just being able to do that, without this whole set up - it looks mad, I can see
it all right now - just, on your phone.
On a phone, and that it what Apple are going for.
They're trying to simplify everything but they're trying - they don't want to make it look gimmicky.
JED: No.
ALEX: It's going to look good, because it's Apple.
JED: Hmm.
That's the thing - it's one of those things where it, the Android guys have done it and
it's just been a novelty.
ALEX: Well then guys, let us know what you think about the iPhone X.
Or iPhone 8, if you'd like to.
Down there, in the comments section down below.
Are they stealing anything from Android phones?
JED: Yes.
ALEX: Or should Android phones learn a few things for the up and coming Samsung phones,
or new phones to come in the future.
Do you guys think it's going to be a good phone?
Do you think that Face ID is going to work?
Do you think you're going to break the glass on the back? JED: Probably.
Let us know down there, in the comments section down below, guys.
But for now, my name's been Alex, this has been...
JED: Jed.
ALEX: ...And we'll see you in the next TechFlow video.
Adios.