Conservatives like Dave Rubin are
obsessing over Washington football
team coach Jon Gruden resigning
after his racist, misogynistic and
homophobic emails were uncovered.
Now, some of those emails,
by the way, were as recent as 2018,
just important context for
you to know about.
In one of the emails, he referred
to Roger Goodell as the F word
that's used as a gay slur.
That content's all super relevant,
okay, as we hear from
David Harris Jr. on Newsmax
attempting to defend Gruden.
>> We're still seeing in this
era of woke culture, people trying
to dig through people's past lives,
emails.
Who was holding something over
Gruden that said, if you don't do
this, or that, or whatever, or
just had it out for him.
And said, I want to release these,
I read portions of the email for
him to refer to a black man and
say he had he lips the size of
Michelin tires.
What happened to some good
old-fashioned football humor and
banter?
I don't think that means
he's a racist.
He didn't say he was black,
he didn't throw color out there.
But again it's like, who can't get
canceled when somebody can be
dissected and have their life and
their emails gone through for
decades, to find one thing or
a slew of things.
Using a derogatory term for
homosexual, you know what,
over in Europe the word [BLEEP] is
actually for a cigarette.
So who knows if that's what he was
talking about?
>> No, that full word that's used
as a gay slur, and he actually said
the full word on air,
is not used as, For cigarettes.
>> That's the shorter version.
>> The shorter version is, yeah.
>> It's F-A-G.
>> Yeah.
>> But guys,
let me ask you a serious question.
Even if you're a right winger,
have you ever in your entire life
heard someone use that F word here
in America to mean cigarette?
And especially about a gay person.
There's a gay person?
And I'm going to call
him that word.
I meant a cigarette.
That was an honest mistake.
No, in the emails Gruden refers to
gay people.
>> Right.
>> And then people he thinks
are acting weak and hence gay,
as the F word.
He doesn't ask for a cigarette.
So why do I tell you that?
because it's an obvious
absurd defense meant to excuse what
he's saying, with sophistry.
You know that that's not a real
defense.
You could say, hey, I don't care.
I don't like gay people either.
Or he was joking, there's a lot
of different defenses, right?
The one that I thought was most
likely was that he was joking.
But you read the emails, it
turns out he's not joking at all.
In fact, he tried to keep a gay
player out of the league.
He said that we don't want queers
in the league, and the commissioner
should do something about it.
He should call the coach and make
sure that guy doesn't get drafted.
That's not a joke, he actually
hates gay people so much, he was
trying to ruin their careers.
That's who Jon Gruden is,
look, guys.
>> This is- >> Guys,
getting canceled,
it happens all the time.
It's happened to me, quote-unquote,
getting canceled, right?
And going back,
the right wing went back 19 years
to find quotes about me from back
when I was a Republican, right?
So does that happen?
Yes, it happens.
But were you joking,
did you change?
Jon Gruden hasn't changed at all.
He wasn't joking at all, and
he took specific action to try to
ruin other people's career.
You know what that is?
That's cancel culture.
Jon Gruden tried to get that
player canceled because he was gay.
Now we're going to cry over
Jon Gruden getting fired?
By the way,
he's making $10 million a year.
So he already made 40 million from
the Raiders.
He'll probably get a giant buyout,
make another $20 million.
We're supposed to cry over him?
Get out of here.
Now, of course we're going to
go to Dave Rubin.
>> Yeah, let me talk for a second,
because I have a lot to say.
First of all, yes,
the context matters.
But also, this notion, I'm actually
against going back decades to find
some terrible stuff on social
media, and then judge someone based
on what was said decades ago.
That's not what happened here.
This was part of an investigation
into workplace abuse/malpractice
with the Washington football team,
okay?
And through that investigation they
found these emails, which
reinforced the notion that it was
an abusive work environment, right?
It's a sport, but it's still work.
There's a gay player on the team.
So maybe it's relevant that
the coach for this team that has
a gay player, an openly gay player,
is saying these types of
things in emails, right?
So again, that context matters.
There's also the fact that some of
the cheerleaders for that team,
topless photos of them were
shared by Gruden.
These are relevant things in any
other workplace context,
it's unacceptable, right?
But this is the latest in their
culture war defense
of bad behavior.
It's not a surprise that Newsmax
would have a black guy on to
defend Gruden's behavior.
And then you're about to hear from
a gay guy who's going to
defend Gruden's behavior.
So let's let's hear what
Dave Rubin, who never misses
an opportunity to tell people that
he's gay, has to say about Gruden.
>> David Harris,
his point about big lips.
I'm here in Los Angeles and
big lips have nothing to
do with skin color.
It's basically a botched injection
job over in Beverly Hills.
That's number one,
that goes across Black, white,
Asian, I don't care.
Does any of this feel like we're
becoming more tolerant as
a society?
But now that we've executed
Jon Gruden, he's gone,
he's excommunicated.
He will no longer go to nice
parties.
He will no longer be able to have
his cushy job and all that stuff.
Does society feel more tolerant?
Do we feel more diverse,
do we feel more decent,
are we healing any more?
Aunt Jemina's not on syrup bottles
and Uncle Ben's not on rice.
So I guess only white people can
be on products now.
I mean, is any of this making any
of it better?
It's only making it worse.
>> Look,
I mean that kind of disgusting
defense of bigotry, of homophobia
got Dave Rubin a $5 million home.
So that's why he does it, and
it's just so
sick to be used as a prop for
the right wing like that.
>> No, there isn't any home large
enough to justify debasing yourself
like that.
That guy just said the F word and
thought it was no big deal.
And Rubin's like, yeah,
no big deal.
I'm here to tell you that you can
beat up on gays,
rhetorically, verbally,
you can call us any names.
Where's my money, where's my money?
Say anything you want about gays,
where's my money?
That's who Dave Rubin is.
What a sad, pathetic,
pathetic character.
Now imagine, look, I was
born a Muslim background, right?
And I'm atheist now, but
if somebody's on TV with me,
even if I agree with them, and
then all of a sudden they say,
I call Muslims rag heads,
it's no big deal.
You think I'm going to just sit
there and take it?
And if my job is to go and go,
yeah, of course they're rag heads.
You pathetic, pathetic creature.
If he sleeps well at night I
feel even worse for him.
Apparently he has no empathy,
no sense of self, no nothing.
What a vile creature.
Okay, now let's talk about, okay,
there's no more tolerance.
We're supposed to have tolerance
for Jon Gruden who says
hateful things, but where was our
tolerance for Michael Sam?
He's the gay player that Gruden was
trying to keep out of the league.
>> I mean, spare me the stuff about
tolerance coming from a guy who
said that progressivism is a mental
illness.
>> Okay, well- >> Yeah.
>> While pretending to be a
progressive, I mean, hilarious.
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> And the comment about
the African-American person's lips
is a clear reference to a racist
trope that's been around for
a long time in this country.
Dave knows that,
the other guy knows that, but
their job is to come and say, no,
you guys are right.
You're racist and
homophobic people you're right,
you're right.
Where's the money,
where's the money,
where's the money?
You're right, you're right.
You're right, call
us anything you want.
Call us anything you want,
talk about our lips,
say that we look like animals.
Say that,
keep us out of the league.
Make sure we don't have careers,
hate us to oblivion, but
where's my check?
That's who Dave Rubin is.
These guys are disgusting.