For those you don't know.
She's got a very big following on social, right.
How did you do that so quickly with crazy?
Well, it wasn't quick.
Nothing ever happened.
But I had a mentor
tell me when I was first starting out, I had maybe two single family homes
and they said you had to do something to build credibility for yourself.
And so they said, start a newsletter, start a blog, start something.
So I did that and it was called Little Investments on the Prairie
because at the time. Of that.
Off, I was buying like these $25,000 and houses in the middle of nowhere
in Saskatchewan, in Canada.
So I called my blog Little Investments on the Prairie started that.
And I realized that I really like the photos, the videos
and the transformation of spaces.
And I was physically working on these properties.
I saw the first one I saw.
You're like, Who is it?
It's like, you knock it down walls with sledgehammers.
You got a tool belt. God. That's it.
Yeah.
And that's how I kind of started with my social media
is just showing the process, showing the ups and downs.
And then eventually it took a long time, though, for it to be anything.
It took a year to get to 1000 followers on Instagram,
and I couldn't figure it out, but it's all that. It's consistency.
Let's talk about the going from, you know, call it
a single families to the big projects because you're doing those now.
And I think a lot of people wonder like, how do I do this?
It's the number one question I get.
Biggest difference was when I started to believe that it was possible for me
is for a very long time I didn't think it was.
I thought I'd just have a few single family homes and I'd be good.
I'd have the you know, my big goal was make $10,000 a month passive income.
That was like that was your first goal.
Ultimate goal was if I could do that and then I would just relax
and I wouldn't have to work again, that would be over.
I got invited to a mastermind event with Brandon Turner.
Yeah. And he invited 20 people. And I was one of them.
I felt extreme imposter syndrome, and I was.
But then after getting in that room, I saw kind of my future
because all these people were like me and they were still they had hundreds
of millions of dollars in real estate or whatever, like these massive portfolios.
And they were still going and I thought, okay, this is this.
Plus they don't have all the answers.
They don't have all that other thing, right?
Like I remember first getting into groups like that or EO or YPO,
you know, you always like that, that little voice is like, am I worthy?
Am I good enough? Right?
Yeah, but you got to take that step.
And I think so what you did is you inserted yourself into a new group.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
And people that were doing these big deals and I thought, you know,
I could do it too.
And that's when I and I wanted.
And I think just after that, I took over my first multifamily building.
It was a 15 unit property. Right.
And it was it wasn't as scary as I thought it was going.
There's always these things we tell ourselves.
I was saying, I don't want to be a boss. I don't want a team.
I didn't want any of that.
I'm like, I'm a lone wolf and I do my own stuff.
That's a point.
And that's what I just always told myself.
I never thought I was going to be a leader.
I just didn't think I had it in me.
But it's just not true.
There are so many things I told myself forever that just weren't true.
So where do you think all that stuff came from?
Because I actually had the same stuff.
Like, you know, we grow up and unfortunately, like in school, like,
you know, there's no collaboration. It's called cheating, right?
Like, well, in real life, like can you know, you know,
I mean, you sit around and brainstorm, yeah, how could we do this?
How could we do that? It's really not taught, right?
It's you're taught to basically be the smartest and that's it.
And not really.
Because also some people are, I think, are just afraid to be real.
Mm. Absolutely.
And afraid of.
Not really, no.
I don't know how to hire someone, I don't know how to teach someone
all these things that you don't.
But it's always the thing.
You just figure it out as you go along.
But I think it was my upbringing as well because I grew up in a household
where it was you do everything yourself. Yeah.
And you save every single penny.
So I grew up that way and that was so ingrained
honestly up until a few years ago, and I still go through that now.
I think that, you know, my friends said it best.
It's like vulnerability is the currency for relationships.
Yeah.
And I really liked that statement because I think when you can get
to the point where you're stripping it all back and you're just telling the truth
and throwing it on the table, then this is the situation I'm at.
This is what I'm concerned about.
This is what I'm afraid of.
People step up and help, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think even being vulnerable online on social media in showing the process
and showing the reality to a certain extent, you know, I mean,
but that builds trust with investors and that builds this trust over time
when you can be real and people can relate to you better.
So then you're building this trust with with everybody.
It's your your partners, your investors, your brokers.
Like all of them start to know you and for who you really are.
Okay.
So, so you went from a bunch of single families to now the bigger deals.
And so what are you working on now.
Up until that that mastermind.
So after that I got my 14 unit apartment building
and then I met my business partner, AJ Osborne, who are both mutual friends,
but he is the top self-storage industry leader.
Like he is awesome.
So they have close to 300 million square foot in self-storage
and I was starting to buy my own self-storage facilities in Canada.
But then as I was doing that, I'm like, okay, I really need a team.
I really, you know.
And then as I was talking to AJ more because he was starting
to do a lot of stuff on social media, pushing out his podcast,
doing all that stuff.
So I was helping him with his social media.
He's helping me with my storage deal,
and then we realize there's a lot of compatibility to team up
and for me to come on and partner with him on these self-storage deals.
So I started bringing investor capital
and my social media skills and all of that to those deals.
And now I'm a general partner.
And in 600,000 square feet of self-storage.
So and and just
working with
operators who have that track record and 20 years of experience, right.
Like if I could do that on my own, I could buy self-storage facilities
and I still have my own portfolio and and it's doing great.
And I'm buying another multifamily in Canada.
15 units, no money down can help double in value.
It's awesome and I have that.
But I love partnering with the operators and bringing investors in
and having that as well because it's just a really cool
when you start to understand what you can bring to the table, your skill sets
and how you could bring value to other, other investors.
Lot of people well, we talked a little bit about this.
You know, they don't like to partner.
They want to do it themselves.
You know, we called in Richard Port out. Yes.
By their S's. You know, they're,
you know, self.
Right.
Self-employed or you know, we see this a lot.
How did you crack through that?
You know, how do you when did you decide to get into partnerships?
Because that's that's a big, big change.
That was difficult for me, too, because I was that lone wolf person.
I was I never thought I'd partner I never thought I'd do any of that.
But then once I started to think about I there's a lot I didn't like
actually in the single family world, and I was getting burnt out, to be honest.
I was just like this.
I'm working 17 hours a day, seven days a week.
I'm just exhausted and I didn't want to do that anymore,
but it took a lot of years of doing that and then meeting the right people.
Because once you meet the people who have the same long term vision as you
and who you have
compatible skills, skill sets with, and you could work well together.
I'm actually way more of a collaborator than I expected
because this is our real life, too.
It's it's you want to be partnered
with people who you could be friends with and you have the same similar values.
And it's not just all straight business.
It's actually like, okay, the bigger picture of things.
But I just love,
I love the business and I think there's so many amazing people
in it to partner with.
And I think it was just meeting those people and understand adding that
because I was just in my own bubble before I was removed from everybody else, but
going to masterminds and different things like that, that made a huge difference.