Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I'm your host paul and this video we're breaking down
one of the big reveals in Secret Invasion. If youve caught the finale then you'll know
that we finally see Rhodey getting freed from Skrull captivity and him being one was supposed
to be one of the shows big twists.
All the way back in episode 3 we discovered that he'd been swapped out and this came with
a phone call to Varra summoning them to meet. Upon arriving at a church she was ordered
to kill her husband and this is when it hammered it home that Rhodey was working for the other
team. Revealed to be called Raava this is a skrull from the comics who ended up becoming
a pirate that was imprisoned with Black Bolt and Absorbing Man.
Raava worked alongside these whereas here she's clearly a villain that's desperate to
be seen in her own skin. Now one of the big questions you probably have right now is when
exactly did she snatch him and how long has Rhodey actually been a skrull for?
Throughout this video we're gonna be breaking it all down and nailing exactly when it was
that they were switched out. There are some people saying that it's civil War but we'll
explain why that isn't actually the case.
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into Secret Invasion.
Ok so the finale has Gi'ah overpowering Gravik and she blasts a hole through his chest leaving
him for good. No idea why he can't heal from this as he also got stabbed there earlier
but...we'll not comment on the finale itself even though it's getting pooped on online.
13% on rotten tomatoes Goddaaamn.
Either way after this Gi'ah goes into where the humans are housed and we see several of
the faces who've popped up in the series. This includes the daltons the dealer from
episode 1 and Everett Ross alongside Rhodey.
Gi'ah says he's been held hostage for a long time and the character needs to be carried
out so that he can get home.
Now this shows that we have at least one definite moment in time that the one that we were following
had to actually be human.
Rhodey of course crash landed during Civil War and this ended up leaving him paralysed.
The fact he can't walk here shows that he at least went through that and they aren't
explaining the recast from Terrence Howard with some shape shifting meta joke.
Now I have seen some people say that it could be cos he's been there for so long that he's
gained muscular atrophe and can now no longer walk. I doubt that's the case cos it's gonna
set them back so much and I think personally that they would just avoid doing that.
Now going back to this scene Rhodey is wearing a hospital gown which we also saw him wearing
during Civil War. Put into an MRI machine this is the last time we saw him wearing it
and because of this people think that he was snatched during it.
Let's be honest it would make sense too and him going through this would give the opportunity
to switcheroo.
Going off the math it would be a devastatingly long time as well cos Civil War happened during
2016. Secret Invasion is set during the year 2025 and going off the UFO hearings this week...yeah
maybe we will be invaded by that point.
Either way this has left a lot of people thinking he was grabbed then and because this fans
have been getting bloody angry.
It robs all the character development that Rhodey's gone through and everything we saw
happening with him in Endgame.
However I think there's two clues that show that isn't the case and that Rhodey was grabbed
by the skrull long a bit after endgame.
Now the biggest indicator of this comes down to his leg braces which once more give him
the ability to walk. These were seen during Avengers Infinity War and he also had them
in Endgame as well. This happened not only at the start of the movie but also at the
end when he was at the funeral.
During the point where Avengers HQ is attacked we also having him rolling out of his suit
as well. Paralysed he has to crawl across the floor and this is when he gets into his
Mark 2 armor. I doubt that Raava wouldve just lay there to keep up appearances and at this
point the cover would have probably broke.
Now it's during this scene that we also see Rhodey bleeding too and as we know Skrull
blood always shows as purple.
Even when Raavas killed the wall behind her lines with purple blood which is a pretty
important indicator when it comes to her.
So therefore he couldn't have been a Skrull during this unless they retroactively go back
and are like...ah mate...look over there while we change the VFX.
So yeah I think that at least during Endgame that he would've been normal but it's at this
point that things likely changed.
Now another reason I dont think that Rhodey was a skrull before this is because of what
we know when it comes to The Harvest.
In the series we learn it was at this point Fury had Skrulls moving around and collecting
DNA so that he could formulate the formula containing all their cells. This was made
up of both villain and hero and going off the list of names it had to be then.
People like Gamora and Mantis have only been to earth during this period so this indicates
that this is the point in which most of it was grabbed.
Now at this time Gravik was team Fury so it also doesn't make sense that he would've grabbed
Rhodey before it. This is when he started to doubt what his master was up to but any
time before that he wasn't swapping humans out. So it would've been weird for Raava to
grab Rhodey before this because as fair as they knew Fury was trying to get them a home.
He'd of course been snapped for five years at this point and they probably wouldnt be
holding that against him. What really seemed to anger the skrulls was after this point
when he went up to Saber and refused to come down. This was the switch that sent them off
on their vendetta so them grabbing Rhodey before this just doesn't make sense.
So I think with all the things here that Rhodey was still a human during Endgame and if he's
not mate...we're gonna f**king riot.
I think stripping him of all that character developent and saying goodbye to Tony would
just anger fans to the point they kick off with Kevin Feige directly. Talking about stealing
his hat at a premiere and running off.
Now from this point onwards we get a clue that he was changed after this point due to
how he appears in Falcon and The Winter Soldier.
The braces he had are now completely missing and this is something that carried across
to Secret Invasion too.
I think that the brace element is used to demonstrate when and when he wasn't a skrull
and we should mainly go off them to nail the timeline down.
Now this technically also doesn't negate what Gi'ah says and when we look at the timeline
it could still be a long time.
As we mentioned before Secret Invasion is set during 2025 and Avengers endgames actually
set during 2023.
Falcon and the winter soldier happens just weeks after this putting it in the summer
of the same year.
So Rhodey being captive for two years is still along time and you think about that in terms
of your own life. Imagining what you were doing two years ago and you can kinda see
why it's so devastating for him to be locked up this long.
I remmeber once...when I was a kid...I went on holiday for 2 weeks and then came back
and me entire local shop had changed.
Was mental mate...still haven't forgot.
But this shows how big of a time jump that it could be.
So judging on all the evidence I think it paints out a clear picture and Rhodey might
have been grabbed right after the funeral. He probably wasn't thinking straight due to
his friend dying and this would also likely mean his senses weren't as strong.
I think that the Skrulls grabbed him after this possibly during a visit to the hospital.
Armor Wars is likely gonna clear this whole thing up and I imagine that we'll get a scene
showing when it happened.
Now obviously I'd love to hear your thoughts on
when it went down but I think going off the evidence this is the most likely time.
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