When most of us hear the word "hostage," we think of someone held captive by a terrorist
group, or criminal gang seeking ransom, attention, or worse.
But as we first reported in February, the vast majority of Americans imprisoned abroad
today are not held by terrorist groups, but by foreign governments with whom the U.S.
has thorny, or in some cases, no relations.
Our government calls them "wrongful detainees," and there are currently more than 40 of them.
Last fall saw a rare moment of success -- the release of then 37-year-old journalist Danny
Fenster, a Detroit native who'd been locked away for nearly six months in a small, always-lit
cell in a prison in Myanmar, formerly called Burma.
Danny Fenster's reunion with his family in November is the moment every hostage and detainee
family dreams of.
Fenster had moved to Myanmar in 2019 and worked as an editor for several publications.
He and his wife, a Brazilian diplomat named Juliana, watched in dismay as, a year ago
February, a military junta ousted the elected government of Aung San Suu Kyi, which brought
throngs of peaceful protestors into the streets.
Within weeks, though, the military regime ordered a violent crackdown that drew worldwide
condemnation.
Late last spring, Danny had a flight home to visit his parents, but as he was about
to board the plane, a group of policemen showed up and called out his name.
Danny Fenster: And I just looked up, like, "What?"
And I said, "Yeah, that's me."
They said, "We-- have questions for a criminal investigation."
Lesley Stahl: Did they allow you to make any phone calls?
No--
Danny Fenster: No.
I got a couple text messages off to Juliana saying, "Call the American embassy.
I'm being detained."
Lesley Stahl: Were you handcuffed?
Danny Fenster: Handcuffed and blindfolded.
Bryan Fenster: I had a very long text message from his wife, Juliana.
Bryan Fenster, Danny's older brother back home in Detroit, was the first in the family
to learn that Danny was in prison, and the family immediately mobilized.
They launched a "Bring Danny Home" campaign, including supporters worldwide sketching his
picture.
Danny was eventually charged with incitement and wrongful association based on his work
for a banned publication that had been critical of the military, even though he hadn't worked
there for 10 months.
He says he desperately wanted to let his family know he wasn't being tortured, but for weeks
he wasn't allowed any communication at all outside the prison.
Danny Fenster: I remember just staring at the wall, thinking sort of figuratively, you
know, "I just-- when is that tank gonna bust through the wall, you know, and get me outta
here?"
Lesley Stahl: You really thought at one point you were gonna be rescued?
Danny Fenster: No.
But I was really hoping.
The State Department made repeated appeals, but the U.S. government hasn't recognized
the legitimacy of the junta, so even getting information about Danny was difficult.
After a month, he was finally allowed periodic phone calls with his family.
Bryan Fenster: It was hard.
I mean, there were many calls we had with him where he was in tears.
You're trying to find the words for him, you know, after one month, two months, three months,
four months.
Back in Washington, Danny's case had fallen under the mandate of Roger Carstens, one of
the few State Department officials held over from the Trump administration.
He's a man with a tough job and an odd-sounding title.
Lesley Stahl: You're called SPEHA.
What does that mean, SPEHA?
Roger Carstens: It's Special Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs.
So everyone truncates it into SPEHA.
The SPEHA office was created in 2015, after an internal review of U.S. hostage policy
following the tragic deaths of American journalists and aid workers held captive by ISIS and complaints
from hostage families that the government hadn't been proactive enough.
But in the years since, the makeup of Roger Carsten's cases has changed.
Lesley Stahl: I'm kinda surprised that there are many more-- many more hostages being held
by governments than by terrorists.
Roger Carstens: I know.
That is surprising, isn't it?
The-- the majority of our cases are actually what we call wrongful detentions.
It's when a nation-state actually is detaining American c-- essentially unjustly.
Lesley Stahl: That government wants something in return for our citizen.
Roger Carstens: They wanna use-- that person for political leverage.
They wanna use 'em as a bargaining chip.
Jason Rezaian: It's something that people don't know about, they don't-- think about
very much.
Washington Post reporter and Iranian American Jason Rezaian was a wrongful detainee himself
-- imprisoned for a year and a half in Iran, where he'd been living as the paper's bureau
chief.
He was freed as part of a prisoner swap in 2016 and has been pushing ever since for the
U.S. government to prioritize the cases of the more than 40 current wrongful detainees.
Jason Rezaian: We're not doing enough for these people, and we're not doing it quickly
enough.
Lesley Stahl: What countries around the world are holding Americans right now?
Jason Rezaian: Iran, which is sort of the perennial hostage-taker; China, who has more
than anybody else; Russia; Venezuela.
Lesley Stahl: Does our government have a stern policy against quid pro quos?
Roger Carstens: That's a hard question to answer, and here's why.
There are things that, to give in, would actually either provide an incentive or a benefit to
the hostage taker, and so my job is to start becoming creative.
What else can we possibly do to solve this problem without giving a direct concession?
Lesley Stahl: Prisoner swaps.
Taking the innocent American and swapping him for a guilty criminal, we've done that.
Roger Carstens: If there's a way I can get someone out that doesn't involve a swap, much
better.
But in Danny Fenster's case, the Myanmar government wasn't asking for any policy concessions or
prisoner swaps.
Bill Richardson: It didn't look like he was gonna get out.
Enter former congressman, U.N. ambassador and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, who
established a foundation that facilitates the delivery of humanitarian aid and engages
in hostage negotiating -- his long-time, sometimes controversial -- specialty.
He had a long history with Myanmar, and was concerned about a local former employee of
his foundation who had also been arrested.
He secured an invitation from the military regime to come to discuss humanitarian assistance
and covid vaccines, and told the state department he wanted to work on the Fenster case too,
but he got pushback.
Bill Richardson: They asked me not to raise Danny Fenster.
Lesley Stahl: Did you say, "Why shouldn't I raise this?"
Bill Richardson: Yeah, I said, "Look, this is what I do."
What-- So I said, "All right, look, I'm gonna go."
Lesley Stahl: There was some tension between Governor Richardson and the State Department.
Roger Carstens: The bottom line is that I had discussions on a few occasions where I
said, "We have a current line of effort.
I'm feeling pretty good about this.
Can we hold off a little bit?"
Richardson held off briefly, but then flew to Myanmar this past November and participated
in two days of humanitarian aid meetings at the presidential palace with the isolated
military regime, including the commander in chief, a man considered responsible at the
time for more than 1,200 civilian deaths.
It was a PR coup for the junta, which splashed photos of the meeting far and wide.
Bill Richardson: When I think we convinced them of our sincerity, then I said, "By the
way, you've got-- I want two things.
You have an activist Burmese woman that worked for me.
I want you to release her."
The next day, She'd been released.
Lesley Stahl: Just like that?
Bill Richardson: Just like that.
Then I decided, I'm on a roll.
"By the way, there's an American journalist named Danny Fenster.
And you should release him.
It'd be the right thing.
The American people are gonna like this.
Your record with the U.S. government right now is not very good.
So it-- it'd make you look good.
Humanitarian gesture."
Lesley Stahl: But you were defying the State Department.
Bill Richardson: I wasn't defying.
I just saw an opportunity and I took it.
Richardson says the commander privately told him he'd release Fenster, but not yet.
So, he left Myanmar empty-handed, slammed for having given a pariah regime legitimacy,
and looking like he might have made things worse for Danny Fenster, who was sentenced
a week later.
Danny Fenster: "You've been convicted on every count and sentenced to 11 years."
Lesley Stahl: Eleven years?
Danny Fenster: Yeah.
It was, like-- despair, you know?
Lesley Stahl: Helpless.
Danny Fenster: Yeah, helpless.
Lesley Stahl: There was criticism.
The feeling that you had botched this meeting and it led to Danny Fenster h-- getting this
11-year sentence.
Bill Richardson: You know, families get so emotional.
They go through ups and downs.
But I knew if the commander kept his word, and I thought he would, that this would be
forgotten.
Lesley Stahl: Go away.
Yeah.
Bill Richardson: And I got him out.
He's out.
And we did it.
Sure enough, just days after the sentencing, Richardson was quietly summoned back to Myanmar,
and Danny was unexpectedly taken out of his cell, put in a van, and without knowing where
he was going, driven to the airport.
Danny Fenster: I just see a bunch of White guys in suits.
I didn't know who was who.
Bill Richardson: And there was Danny-- walking towards me.
Danny Fenster: And he said, "I'm here to take you home."
I just couldn't stop smiling.
I was smiling so much.
I was so happy.
The sun was on my face, I could feel the sun.
Yeah, it was amazing.
Roger Carstens at press conference: I'd like to start with saying thank you to Governor
Richardson for securing the release of Danny Fenster.
If there was any lingering anger over Governor Richardson's trip, it was not on display at
the press conference when Danny landed on U.S. soil.
Roger Carstens: I just can't get upset when the governor actually brings him home.
We have no pride of authorship.
Whoever can come up with a plan and get someone out, we're down for the win.
Carstens says he's hopeful about some of the other detainee cases.
He traveled to Venezuela in December to meet 9 Americans imprisoned there.
And during negotiations to revive the Iran nuclear deal, the U.S. envoy said it would
be "very hard for us to imagine getting back into the nuclear deal while four innocent
Americans are being held hostage."
Yet Jason Rezaian says it's still not enough.
Lesley Stahl: When you say we should prioritize getting these people out–
Jason Rezaian: Yeah.
Lesley Stahl: --the implication is that you're saying let's make a deal; let's do a swap.
And then you're right back to the issue of incentivizing this thing.
Jason Rezaian: Look, ultimately, when Americans come home, when Brits come home, when French
people come home, there are some concessions.
The issue is not whether or not to give a concession.
The issue is how do we make it difficult on the back end.
Lesley Stahl: So, you're saying make the deal here and then punish them later–
Jason Rezaian: Bring them home however you need to do it–-
Lesley Stahl: Money, h-- swaps, whatever?
Jason Rezaian: You know what, cut through all the BS and just bring people home.
Lesley Stahl: Critics say that even though you work very hard, you keep the families
apprised of what's going on that you're not doing a good job.
There are still 40 people being held.
Roger Carstens: When I go to bed every night, I feel the weight of not having brought home
between 40 and 50 Americans, so I don't go to bed usually feeling good.
I usually wake up with energy, can't wait to get to the office and get back after it.
But this is a business of ones and zeroes in computer language.
Someone comes home, steps on a tarmac in America, falls into the arms of their loved ones.
You've got a victory there.
But unless that's happening, you're losing.
Danny walking into grandma's room: Hello!
We want to leave you…
Grandma: My beautiful grandson.
…with a pretty special falling into the arms of a loved one.
Grandma: Oh my god!
Danny's reunion with his 95-year-old grandmother, a survivor of the Holocaust.
Grandma: I'm happy you're in America.
God bless you.
Since our story first aired, three wrongful detainees were released -- two by the Venezuelan
government, and one, Trevor Reed, by Russia.
But WNBA star Brittney Griner was arrested in Russia in February, accused of having hashish
oil in her luggage.
Last month the State Department deemed her a wrongful detainee, and she remains in custody.