For the final PFT OT
for the return of PFT live.
Alright, so I start PFT p.m. boss, you come up with a lot of
questions. Every day. I want to give some time here to some
others. Let's CLI. Here's a quick one though.
I'll answer this from from PFT p.m. policy. Is there any way
outside of replacing the draft for the NFL to fix issues like
Jordan loves career being ruined? Because the Packers
basically used him as a pawn.
In the Aaron. Rodgers drama
seems wrong to screw a guy's career like this. Now, there's
no way to fix it unless you take away the draft or unless
Jordan love is willing to say, I refuse to come play for
the Packers. I refuse to step into this stew of dysfunction.
I refuse to be
The
the guy caught between Aaron Rodgers and the front office
and loves represented by the same firm.
So they could include him into the idea that
isn't going to end well, Jordan, and but
we didn't know how it was going to end between Rodgers. And
the Packers, we didn't know that Raj is going to win two
straight MVPs. We didn't know he was going to choose not to
try to force his way out of town. But now now,
yeah, Jordan love stuck. He's got two years left on his
rookie contract and
I think he just has to wait it out. He's got nothing else he
can do.
So, to answer the question, there are plenty of ways. The
concept of a draft,
it tells a player,
You are coming to work for this team and nobody else unless
you're going to sit out the full year and re-enter
the draft, you have no choices. That's why I always say guys at
the end of the process around six round seven, it's better
than not be drafted
because you can get drafted by a team that
maybe has too many guys the position you play.
Maybe doesn't have a good assistant coach,
who's able to teach you
how to be a professional at the position you play?
Maybe there's a better place for you to go that a good
agent. Will help you.
Decide upon and settle upon and focus on and sign with. And
then maybe you have a better chance of making the roster. So
it's always better to choose
where you work, where you live, who you work with.
It's always better to have that choice
and a theme that's come up on a couple of the radio spots. I do
this week
quarterbacks who end up in bad spots and it's usually top of
the draft, not bottom of round one
but either way whether it's Jordan love or whether it's
a Kelly Smith going to The Bangles in 999. One of
the things that fascinates me and alternate universe out there
where
The Eagles have a Kelly Smith in 1999 and the Bengals have
Donovan McNabb.
What did Kelly Smith become the 10-year quarterback of
the Eagles. Working with Andy Reid would Donovan McNabb have
washed out of the league in a year or two
working with the Bengals.
It's a huge Factor
but the player has no control over it. And again, this is why
Sims. And I argue about, it's an honor and a privilege.
That's all part of the effort to brainwash the player into
not becoming aware of the fact that you're walking into
a situation where We're
depending upon who drafts you, depending upon where you start
your career,
you may never even have a career.
And look, I
think it's some level. Josh rosen's
failure to thrive in the NFL is the product of his lack of
ability.
but,
It's possible, he's just been in one bad circumstance, after
another, it's possible.
He did get drafted 22 spots ahead of Lamar Jackson and it's
not, like people said, well, that's crazy.
What the hell of the Cardinals thinking? Why didn't they take
Lamar Jackson?
So,
Bottom line. That's why that
I think that it all players should have
the right
to pick where they start their career with
a salary cap
for rookies that he's driven by how the team did the last year.
That's how you build some competitive balance into it.
And this
strange argument that all the great players will go to
the same team, they're really going to go to the same team and sit
behind bench. Great quarterback going to go to the Chiefs And
sit behind Pat Mahomes. Great quarterback going to go
to Dallas and sit behind back Prescott know they're going to
go to where they think they're going to be developed properly
and we're going to play and whether career is going to get
off
on the right foot so they can play for 15-20 years and make
a crapload of money.
All right. What else do we have?
Burn Unit.
You said the 49ers may not be sold on trail anise? Do you
believe that is still the case with them trying to trade?
Jimmy Garoppolo? Would they be trading Jimmy if they truly did
not think Lance is ready to take over? I think it's
possible that they may not be sold on Trey, Lance, but they
understand that we just have to do it. We
just have to rip off the
Band-Aid and go and that's what they apparently intend to do.
Now from time to time, they'll throw out this goofy idea that
they'll keep Jimmy Garoppolo around
at 25 million dollars
if they pay Jimmy Garoppolo 25 million dollars to be the back
up the trail, and they really have Their damn Minds more than
when they didn't evaluate Patrick or homes in the 2017
draft or said, no to Tom, Brady in 2020, or freaked out and
ultimately invested three first-round picks
Plus in trail ants. If they pay Jimmy Garoppolo 25 million just
to preserve the ability to maybe trade him
to a team, that loses a starter
before the deadline
they really have lost their minds.
So at some point
you just have to accept the fact Trey Lance is our guy.
Let's support Him. Let's not have Jimmy Garoppolo around.
Let's go all in with trade, Lance.
Let's make him the best quarterback. He can be. And
let's see if we got it, right. Let's see,
we'll find out. There's only one way to find out. You got to
go all in. If you're going to go all in, you gotta go all in.
I don't know. There's
anything really profound in that, but they've already made
the move,
Now's the Time to show the cards or at least find out,
find out what the card show. They, it's not just showing
the cards.
They gotta look at the cards
they were All in without knowing what their cards are.
Now's the Time to lay the cards down
so everyone including the 49ers
will know what the cards
really are.
Let's see what else we have here.
Tommy Caruso. Listen, when they can get me in trouble based
upon what I say after surviving a seemingly endless string of
scandals of past decade and by all appearances poised to
survive the Watson and Commander situations. Roger
Goodell appears bulletproof.
What would have to occur for owners to force him out? Or is
he locked in until he chooses to retire? I think he's locked
in until he chooses to retire.
I really do.
I think the owners Above All Else, appreciate the fact that
they have someone who is very Adept, at taking all of
the heat that otherwise would be directed to them.
That's one of the ways he earns his money and we've seen it
time and again he does it well at press conferences. He did
a pretty damn well a month ago today. Before Congress
non-answers words words words, nothing really admitted. It
causes any problems for anyone and then you move onto the next
question.
And you find a way to ever say the thing that you're being
pressed to say it's a skill, it's an art and I think that's
one of the reasons why he's there until he decides to walk
away. The challenge though, is this and there's been some
reporting on this.
Who's next?
And
I think this is my opinion, I think Roger Goodell has been
very keen on
making sure that there's never an internal threat to
the throne.
And I think that's one of the reasons why anytime somebody
begins to Bubble Up and you start hearing all that could be
a future. Commissioner that can do though,
that person ends up leaving. I don't think it's a coincidence
that it's happened. Like three or four times. So
at some point and This may be in the next Goodell contract. A
mandate
to develop his successor,
a requirement
that you're going to embrace
the person that comes next. At some point. You just have to do
it. We're all going to die, newsflash. We're not going to
do the thing that we do that. We think we're so good at were
Irreplaceable or all replaceable
and the game will just keep going.
You take out anyone who's connected to it in any way,
shape, or form. Right now, they drop dead. Right now the game
will keep going.
Whoever it is I'm not going to name names because then you
know,
that's the ultimate Jinx to put on someone
Linking them to death
any person connected to the NFL. If they, let's not say
die. If they just choose to walk away right now.
If they wake up tomorrow morning and say
I'm done with this s***,
sorry.
The train keeps rolling. We see it every year player gets
injured big-name player out for the year train keeps rolling
commissioner leaves. They change the name on the football
train keeps rolling.
He needs to understand that.
At some point, the train is going to keep rolling without him.
Now now I don't want to be too cynical here and suggest that
now I'm not going to say, I'm not even going to say that he
wants to make sure that his successor does a bad job. So
his legacy is even better.
Almost like what a president would do.
I want the next guy to screw up? So I look like I was better
than this person. I don't want my successor to do a better job
than me. I'm not going to suggest that anyone. Is that
shallow or Petty? So I won't, I won't say that and I didn't say
that my point is that I won't
just want to be clear. I won't say that I did not.
Say that.
See what else we have here.
Ryan to pray who decides what a player's position is actually
labeled seems important when you look at franchise tag value
difference between tight end receiver didn't Jimmy Graham
challenge at some point. There's nine years ago
and the CBA says that
your position for tag purposes is the one at which you took
The most snaps the prior year
and G argument. Was he lined up in the slot
more than he lined up
tight to the tackle?
Therefore he was a receiver, not a tight end and it was
an arbitration. There was a fight the end of the day the NFL and
the Saints won that argument because the arbitrator
basically found.
Well, those times that you line up in the slot you're still
a tight end. Basically that fight is come up with the distinction
between linebacker and defensive end
because the Anchor tag. The outside linebacker tag is less
than the defensive end tag. So teams will tag a pass rusher as
an ol be.
When he's really a D & E,
that's happened in the past, I think it happened with Terrell
Suggs. It's happened recently with someone else so
it's driven by where you line up but it's ultimately
determined by an arbitration process.
Tom Marshall Arizona, UK can Russell Wilson, continue
the quarterback Trend and go on to win a Super Bowl this year with
a new team. Well, we saw it with
Tom, Brady goes, Tampa Bay
and wins the Super Bowl. The first year, we saw it
with my few Stafford, goes to LA and win the Super Bowl
the first year. This is a great litmus test for both teams
Seahawks and the Rams.
Because I think the Seahawks believe they can still be
successful. Without Russell Wilson, plug-in Geno Smith into
the system, they didn't build the offense around. Russell
Wilson, they tried in 2000. There was that? Let rust cook
stuff for a while.
The defense has caught up with it. I think the Seahawks
believe. At the end of the day that we're So Wilson,
ultimately isn't good enough. I'm not saying, I believe it.
I think the Seahawks ultimately believed, he wasn't good enough
to be a Josh Alan. Patricof homes, Aaron Rodgers build
everything around the quarterback, they're still
putting the quarterback into the system, they may be wrong,
we're going to find out
because the Broncos are clearly building, everything around
Russell Wilson and you know, every time I say this or tweet
this, I get the Geniuses out there. Who say every offense is
built around a quarterback. It's not,
it's not.
There are certain teams that have systems and
the quarterback is the guy who runs the system. Other teams. The
quarterback is the system. In Baltimore, Lamar Jackson is
this system.
In Pittsburgh, whoever wins that job is part of the system.
Jalen hurts part of the system to a part of the system.
There are some quarterbacks and I don't want to do
an exhaustive list here, but Pat Mahomes Josh Allen,
Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson.
They are the system. Matthew Stafford's, not the system.
He fits the system better than Jared. Goff did obviously
But the quarterbacks, especially the ones who can
move around the ones who can make chicken salad on the fly.
When the place is called fails, they can call and run a second
play
with their athleticism, their awareness, all of those great
attributes and turn what should have been a saccharine
incompletion into a posit. Those are the best of the best
and those are the ones where.
Basically the offense is
go do your thing
and our plays are going to be
drawn up.
With the understanding that ultimately you're just going
out there and doing your thing.
That's the Broncos are going to do with Russell Wilson.
The Seahawks refuse to do it
if the Broncos can pull it off,
we'll see. But I still don't know what to think about
the charters, Broncos and Raiders because they're in that
division, with the Chiefs, somebody's finishing in
fourth place. Somebody's probably not make it to the playoffs
and all four of those teams. Good enough to win other divisions
in the NFL.
All right, let's see what else we have here.
Looking for a good one, to wrap it up with is a lot. Here we
got all we had a lot of thank you for coming back. We missed
you, we appreciate. And I've had so many emails in recent
days, people who are anxious for us to come back to
routines, been disrupted? I get it and I appreciate it and
it look this isn't this isn't BS.
Again, I am not going to BSU
some days here on out of bed at 6:30, or whatever it is. Why am
I doing this? Why am I doing this? Since
I've gone through that existential thing earlier this year, like
I really adding Society. But when I hear from people, that
we are part of
Their way to just ignore all the crap part of their routine.
Part of what makes them feel comfortable for me. That means
a lot to us. And we're glad to be part of that. So we're glad
to be
coming back, all right.
Tommy Caruso have you confirmed? Sims is still alive
and ready for Monday. Is he pissed. He has to work on
a Monday. I
haven't I try and I try to let him have his tie and I was like
because we communicate so much when we're on
We're not joined at the hip when we're off. Like I don't
want to drive him. Crazy. I thought I check in with him
time to time, but I think he's doing well and I think he's
ready to go
Ryan Dupree. Since the funding rule, seems to hurt. Both
the PA and the owners why don't both sides agree to do away
with it. But it doesn't hurt the owners. It helps. The
owners allows them to hide. Behind it to say we're not
going to do fully guaranteed contracts for the next five
years,
see if the Cardinals had done five years fully guaranteed,
seven years, fully guaranteed really if you add it. The two
years that he had left, if they did that, they're taking
the risk that this guy at some point. In the next seven years
is going to get injured to the point where he can't play or
he's going to have an accumulation of enough, small
injuries that all of a sudden, he's
not the same guy
and they still have to pay him.
I think the owners don't want to do fully guaranteed
contracts for veterans, well, into the future, the funding
rule gives them a way to avoid it. The irony of the funding
rule is it started as a protection for the
players. And now, it's something that gets used
against the players and I I don't see the
league giving it up easily. And again, the Union in any
negotiation with the league, could get rid of it if it wants
to. All right, let's see what else we have here.
How long does it take
SIMs to come back from the haze after summer vacation? I don't
think he ever exits. The haze
Christians, Zimmerman wants to know if the new Vikings regime
will turn Kellen mon into a starting quarterback. They are
all in with Kirk Cousins
and Kirk Cousins.
Early 30s.
This is year 11 for him. He's still got a lot of football
left. If it works out,
he'll be the guy
for several years to come and Kalyn Monde ends up being
a waste to draft pick. He's a round 3 version of Jordan law
where they drafted Callen month at a time when they weren't
really sure what the future was going to be with Kirk Cousins.
The coach at the time, didn't like Kirk Cousins little. Do
they
know the Kirk didn't
that the coach didn't like kelan maw and either I don't
think Mike Zimmer likes anyone, frankly.
so,
I don't,
I don't think that Kellen mons future is going to be in
Minnesota. I think Monde
is destined to end up somewhere else
in due course. That's just my gut feeling
at this point. All right,
let's
let's call it right there. That's long enough. Almost
an hour for the last edition of PF T OT. Before we return for two
hours on Monday, with PFT live.
Check us out all weekend long and pro football talk.com and
get ready for the possibility. PFT double OT at some point on
Friday afternoon. If judge Sewall Robinson, we're getting
close to noon
at some point between noon and 5:00 Eastern.
Does she drop the DeShaun Watson ruling?
If she does we'll read it. Well that just it and we'll be back
here to explain it otherwise. See a Monday morning,
7:00 a.m. eastern for PFT live. Thanks. As always for hanging
out with us and we'll talk to you real soon.