INSURRECTION, THE LATEST AND JOE
BIDENS MOCKED MITCH McCONNELL
FOR OPPOSING HELP FOR HIS OWN
CONSTITUENTS.
>>> BUT FIRST, DONALD TRUMP
ANNOUNCING A CLASS ACTION
LAWSUIT AGAINST FACEBOOK, GOOGLE OR TWITTER OR THE COLOR BLUE,
OR TWITTER OR THE COLOR BLUE,
ESSENTIALLY QUOTING HESEING "HE
WRONGLY CENSORED."
DOES TRUMP REALLY WANT
DISCOVERY?
IT ALL STARTS WITH THE STRANGE
SCENE TODAY, TRUMP SPEAKS FROM A
PODIUM HE CREATED FROM ETSY TO
LOOK CANDIDLY LIKE THE
PRESIDENTIAL PODIUM.
>>> WHAT DID YOU DO TO STOP THE
INSURRECTION AS SOME PEOPLE CALL
IT AND WHY WERE YOU NOT ABLE TO
STOP IT SF?
>> THAT WHOLE EVENT, UNFORTUNATE
EVENT WENT THROUGH CONGRESS AND
A RECORD WAS ISSUED AND MY NAME
WAS NOT EVEN MENTIONED. >> AN UNFORTUNATE EVENT LIKE
>> AN UNFORTUNATE EVENT LIKE
APPARENTLY TRUMP THINKS IT WAS
THE INSURRECTION WHEN IN FACT IT WAS HIM AND THE "TIME" DOES
WAS HIM AND THE "TIME" DOES
MENTION TRUMPS NAME, MORE THAN
40 TIMES.
THIS COMPANY AND CFO INDICTED ON
15 COUNTS.
JOINING ME NOW IS MELISSA MURRAY
AND OUR CORRESPONDENT JOAN
WALSH.
PROFESSOR MURRAY, I AM GOING TO
START WITH YOU.
THIS IS IMPORTANT TO DO THIS
RESET EVERY SINGLE DAY.
WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE WHO DONT
DO THIS FOR A LIVING THEYRE
LIKE HOW MUCH TROUBLE IS DONALD
TRUMP IN?
SO CAN YOU LAY OUT TO THE
AUDIENCE AGAIN WITH
INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE CFO,
WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THEM
KEEPING TWO SETS OF BOOKS.
HOW MUCH TROUBLE WILL DONALD
TRUMP BE IN IF HES ANYONE OTHER
THAN DONALD TRUMP?
>> ADAM DAMMING PICTURE.
THIS IS A PERSON THAT MANAGED
TODD DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM ALL
MANNER OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES
THATS BOILING AROUND HIM.
WILL THIS GO SO FAR TO ACTUALLY
ATTACH TO DONALD TRUMP?
THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
SURELY HES INVOLVED IN THIS
WHETHER OR NOT THERE CAN BE
EVIDENCE THAT LINKS HIM INTO A
CONCLUSIVE WAY THAT PROSECUTORS
CAN THEN USE ALL THE ELEMENTS OF
THEIR CASE BUT IT IS NOT GREAT
BUT THIS IS A GUY WHOS ALWAYS
BEEN SLIPPERY.
WHEN YOU SAY HES SLIPPERY, IN
THE PAST, HE SUGGESTED HES
PAYING PEOPLE OFF AND BOUGHT
PEOPLE OFF AND BASICALLY BRAGGED
ABOUT ALL SORTS OF CRIMINAL
ACTIVITIES.
DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT HAVE THAT
MUCH INFLUENCE ANYMORE.
IS THIS A MATTER OF WHEN BECAUSE
IT IS NOT LIKE RUDY GIULIANI
CANT PRACTICE LAW AND CANT
PROTECT HIM ANYMORE.
IS THIS INEVITABILITY OR THERE
ARE STILL HOLES IN THESE CASES
THAT CAN ALLOW TRUMP OR MEMBERS
OF HIS FAMILY TO GET FREE.
>> IT IS HARD TO SAY BECAUSE WE
DONT KNOW WHAT ALL THE EVIDENCE
IS OR WHAT THE CHARGES WILL BE.
AGAIN, I THINK IF THERE IS
SOMETHING CONNECTING HIM TO THIS
IN A MORE EXPLICIT WAY, WE ARE
GOING TO LEARN IT THE NEXT
COUPLE OF WEEKS BUT WITHOUT
ACTUAL LINOING WHATLY KNOWING WH
AGAINST HIM WILL BE.
THAT EXPLAINS WHY WE HAVE
BIZARRE CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS
TODAY.
IT SEEMS NOT ONLY INTENDED TO
GET HIM BACK IN FRONT OF THE
CAMERA BUT ALSO DRUM UP SOME
FUNDS FOR ALL DIFFERENT
INITIATIVES HE HAS GOING ON AT
THIS POINT.
>> SO JOAN, I WAS UNHAPPY THIS
MORNING, I DECIDED I WAS GOING
TO GET BREAKFAST.
AS DISRUPT SAYS HES GOING TO
SUE FACEBOOK AND TWITTER AND
GOOGLE AND TUMBLR AND
FRIENDSTER.
IS THIS THE FACT THAT HES
STARVING FOR ATTENTION.
YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A LAWYER OR
PLAY ONE ON TV TO THINK THAT HE
HATES THE FACT THAT EVERY SINGLE
DAY HES NOT ABLE TO BE ON
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.
THATS WHAT THIS SUIT IS ABOUT.
>> IT IS ENTIRELY WHAT IT IS
ABOUT.
THIS LAWSUIT IS AS DEAD AS THE
TRUMP FOUNDATION AND TRUMP
UNIVERSITY AND IVANKAS CLOTHING
LINE.
I WONT MILK THIS.
I CAN GO ON AND ON.
FST FIRST AND FOREMOST IN
ATTEMPT TO GET BACK IN FRONT OF
THE CAMERA WHICH SUCCEEDED.
THE FUND RAISING APPEALS WENT
OUT FROM HIM AND DON JR. AND
ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
I HOPE THEYRE NOT DOING WHAT
THEY DID DURING THE CAMPAIGN
WHICH WAS SIGN PEOPLE UP
AUTOMATICALLY MONTHLY, REPEAT
DONATIONS.
THESE PEOPLE ARE INTERNALLY
READY TO FALL FOR HIM.
THATS ALL IT IS ABOUT.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT GOING
FORWARD BECAUSE WE ENJOY SEEING
HIM DECOMPOSEP ODEPOSE AND ASK H
ABOUT JANUARY 6th.
IT WOULD BE A SITE TO BE HOL.
>> WE KNOW THAT TRUMP IS
REACHING ROCK BOTTOM WHEN HES
DOING ALL THESE CAMEOS LIKE
DONALD TRUMP JR.
>> THERE IS AUDIO OF HOW SMALL
THE TRUMPS CIRCLE HAS BECOME.
I WANT TO PLAY THIS AUDIO AND
GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE OTHER
SIDE.
>> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY TO
HER?
>> MY WIFE AND I RETURNED A
MONTH OR SO AGO, I KNOW SHE SAW
US, SHE PUT A NEWSPAPER IN FRONT
OF HER FACE IN ORDER TO MAKE
SURE WE DIDNT CATCH HER.
I KNOW SHE DID.
I DONT CARE ABOUT THIS POINT,
RIGHT NOW IT IS ONLY ABOUT THE
TRUTH AND ONLY GETTING THE TRUTH
OUT.
>> THIS NEWS SEASON OF
SUCCESSION IS GOING TO BE GREAT.
YOU HAVE IVANKA TRUMP IS NOW
AVOIDING EYE CONTACT WITH
MICHAEL COHEN.
THIS IS NOT HIGH SCHOOL DRAMA.
IT SUGGESTS TO ME THAT THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO THEY THINK
CAN FLEX ON INFLUENCE HAS
DIMINISHED IMMENSELY JUST A
COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
MICHAEL COHEN HAD BEEN OUTSIDE
THE CIRCLE QUITE A WHILE.
THERE IS REPORTS THAT SHES NOT
ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO HER FATHER
LATELY AND THAT SHES USING HER
HELP IN THE MEDIA TO SEND FORTH
THIS NOTION THAT SHES ESTRANGED
AND EMBARRASSED BY SO MUCH HES
DONE.
WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT
BEFORE. WE DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON
WE DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON
WITH THESE INVESTIGATIONS.
I DONT WANT TO OVER-SPECULATE
OR PROMISE ANYTHING.
IF HER DAD IS IN TROUBLE, SHES
IN TROUBLE.
THE BOYS ARE IN TROUBLE.
IT CANT BE COMFORTABLE.
THE FAMILY DYNAMIC IS
SUCCESSION-LIKE.
I AM DYING FOR NEXT SEASON AND
THIS IS GOING OF TO DO FOR A
WHILE.
MELISSA, I HAVE A LIST RIGHT
HERE AND ALL THE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE DON AND IVANKA AND
WEISSELBERG AND DONALD TRUMP JR.
AND ERIC TRUMP, ALL THESE
PEOPLE.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THIS LIST
RIGHT NOW, WHICH OF THESE
PEOPLE, WE ALREADY KNOW
WEISSELBERG, WHICH OF THESE
PEOPLE DO YOU THINK MAY BE THE MOST CONCERNED?
MOST CONCERNED?
>> MAYBE VONKIVANKA OR DON JR. G
ME REASONS TO BE CONCERNED OR IF
THEY DID MORE THAN SIGN A COUPLE
OF CHARITY CHECKS.
>> ALL OF THIS DEPENDS ON WHAT
COMES OUT OF THE INVESTIGATION.
IT COULD BE THE CASE THAT THE
PERSON THATS HANDLING MOST OF
THIS ZBOINGGOING BACK AND FORTH
BETWEEN THE TWO SETS OF BOOKS
ARE ALLEN WEISSELBERG.
IT IS SET UP THAT WAY SO ONLY
ONE PERSON IS ON THE HOOK AND
THAT PERSON IS RELATED TO DONALD
TRUMP IN ANY WAY.
PICKING BETWEEN THESE THREE
CHILDREN AND THIS IS JUST SORT
OF WHACKAMO AT THIS POINT.
THIS ENTIRE FAMILY IS BOUNCE UP
ON THE CULT OF PERSONALITY THE
TRUMP ORGANIZATION AND THEIR
FATHER.
IF THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION IS IN
TROUBLE AND ALLEN WEISSELBERG IS
IN TROUBLE, ALL OF THESE
INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BE
WORRIED.
>> GOING FORWARD, THE LAW IS NOT
ALWAYS CLEAR AS TO WHETHER OR
NOT A PRESIDENT CAN BLOCK PEOPLE
OR PUBLIC OFFICIALS CAN BLOCK
PEOPLE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
IS THERE ANY CASE HERE?
QUITE FRANKLY, TWITTER AND
FACEBOOK AND L OFA LOT OF SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS SEEM TO BE
CONSISTENT OF WHO THEY BAN AND
HOW COULD TRUMP HAVE A CASE
HERE?
HEY LOOK, I WAS IN TROUBLE.
THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP THE
PRESIDENT AND NOW DONALD TRUMP
AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, I SHOULD
BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT I WANT.
DOES HE HAVE A CASE HERE AND
WOULD IT MATTER IF HES GOING
AGAINST FACEBOOK OR GOOGLE OR
TWITTER OR HOW LONG HIS CASE IS? IT IS BASED ON THE BANNING FROM
IT IS BASED ON THE BANNING FROM FACEBOOK ON JANUARY 7th, 2021.
FACEBOOK ON JANUARY 7th, 2021.
FACEBOOK VAI RATEIOLATED THE FIR
AMENDMENT.
COLLABORATION BETWEEN FACEBOOK
AND THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT SUP
SUFFICE TO MAKE FACEBOOK A
PUBLIC ENTITY.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT DOES NOT
APPLY.
THE SECOND CLAIM IS THE DECENCY
ACT, SECTION 230 IMMUNIZES
PLATFORMS FROM LAWSUITS OVER
CONTACT MODERATION SHOULD BE
STRUCK DOWN.
IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
THATS A HARD ISSUE FOR FOLLOW
AND THERE IS A LOT OF CRITICISMS
OF SECTION 230 BUT THERE IS ALSO
PRAISE FOR IT FOR WHAT THE INTERNET HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ALLOW
INTERNET HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ALLOW
TO FLOURISH.
THERE IS PRETTY MUCH A FREE
REIGN ON THE INTERNET AND THATS
WHAT MADE THE INTERNET SO
SUCCESSFUL.
AGAIN, I DONT THINK THERE IS A
LOT HERE.
THIS IS AS JOAN SAYS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR FORMER PRESIDENT