How do you define anxiety?
Just fear, it's just a phobia,
that's all it is.
I know that this is all in my head,
I just need help. No, no, no,
well, let's define "all in your head."
What do you mean when you say all in your head?
Like I know I can eat that food,
but when it's right in front of me,
the fear is so real, I can't do it.
When you say you know you can,
you just think you can't?
Right.
And I don't think that's true.
Like the test says that I can eat the food,
so why can't I eat the food? Well, the test says that you
won't have an allergic reaction to it.
Right.
But listen, let me unpack this for you.
For every thought you have,
there's a physiological event that goes along with it
and your internal dialog right now is horrifying.
Your internal dialog is that the world
is full of things that will kill you
if they get inside your mouth.
Correct.
Walking through a grocery store for you
is like going through a house of horrors.
So why is this happening to you?
The vaccination was just one event
that created a physiological reaction.
You are having a lot of anxiety
and you said, "it's just a phobia."
I have the opinion that there's only one phobia
and that's the fear of losing or being out of control.
When you had that injection,
and you started closing up, you felt out of control
and it scared the bejeebers out of you.
Now, anything that makes you think that's gonna reoccur,
brings back to you almost in a PTSD fashion,
that you're going back into that loop
of being out of control.
Now, you were out of control when you were
six or seven and you got in a bad situation then.
You didn't have the power or control to change that.
When you got...
Raped by a "friend" who then puts a cigarette out
on your chin, you're out of control in that situation,
you physically don't have the ability to stop
the events that are going on.
There has been trauma in your life
where you have been out of control and you hate that.
You absolutely hate that.
You have this fear of something starting
and running away and you don't have the ability to stop it.
That's why you carry three EpiPens,
that's why you call him 85 times.
Not anymore.
(audience laughing) Because you have this fear
that you can't control what's happening.
Vanessa, what I'm telling you is...
I think you've had trauma in your life,
when you were out of control
and near as I can tell,
that trauma's never been resolved.
No. I mean, there's never been
anything done to heal those wounds.
No. This is a
complex and layered situation
and if you treat just the eating aspect of this,
then one of two things are gonna happen.
It's gonna come back or it's gonna express itself
in another way if you don't deal with the cause,
if you don't deal with the underlying trauma.
Just tell me what to do and I'll do it.
I wanna introduce you to somebody right here.
This is Dr. John Caldwell.
He's the medical director of Meadows Behavioral Health.
They have created a unique treatment program solution
that is built on their unique expertise
to treat complex patients.
Now, Vanessa will have the benefit, if she chooses to,
of the Willow House program, specifically for women.
She will have a variety of trauma treatment therapies
and they will also tap into their program at Remuda Ranch,
which specializes in women's eating disorders,
because it goes along with everything
that we're talking about here.
Now, I asked Dr. Caldwell to come here
because they specialize in two things,
trauma and eating disorders and I believe
that you have an eating disorder secondary to trauma.
Dr. Caldwell, this is a highly intelligent,
motivated individual that is a perfect fit
for your protocol, would you agree?
Yes, I agree.
I agree completely with Dr. Phil
that the approach needs to be sort of a dual approach,
where we have to give you the skills and the tools
to be able to manage your current situation.
At the same time, we need to help you to work on
those underlying issues and we can help you
in your journey for healing.
(audience applauding)
That's our plan and that's our gift to you.
Thank you so much.
(audience applauding and cheering)
Okay? Alright?