it's been a very trying week to say the
least
but we got a little bit of good news on
this feel good friday michael hawley and
i'll take it
however small wherever i can get it
every little bit helps
uh the jackass richard barnett
of arkansas um who
was a part of the siege in the seas of
the capitol
who uh put his feet up and took pictures
in nancy pelosi's office right he has
been taken into custody and charged with
three
federal counts including theft of public
property so a little bit of good news on
this friday to lift our spirits
uh hopefully they throw the book at him
is that the guy
is that the guy nicknamed big o is that
his nickname
i don't know i think he's one of them
goes by the name of
big o so sounds about uh i'm glad
i'm with you i'm i'm with you that this
is good news
but i was you know taking a peek at your
feed
i was hoping i was hopeful kind of
i was hopeful that we'd be talking about
the 25th amendment today
and and that's not going to happen
that's not going to happen why
cowardice um still
going down to the very end mike smith
going down to the very end
with the person who brought you to this
dance now that cliche works in some
cases
in this case when it's a matter of
national security in our democracy
you should not stay with him and i don't
want to hear any type of applause
for those in his cabinet who resigned
in outrage oh this has gone too far you
can say
they resign because they have principles
or they resign because
they didn't want to be a part of the 13
required cabinet members
to get him out mike pence won't even
take phone calls
from chuck schumer and nancy pelosi so
i was hopeful but not really hopeful but
not really
that we'd be talking about uh donald
trump no longer
being the president of the united states
because it's dangerous for everybody
if you voted for him even if you don't
know better if you voted for him
it's dangerous for you for donald trump
to remain the president of the united
states
so nancy pelosi um
she has spoken to the chairman of the
joint chiefs of staff general mark
milley
about keeping an unstable president from
accessing the nuclear codes
the situation of this unhinged president
could not be more dangerous
and we must do everything that we can to
protect the american people
from his unbalanced assault on our
country
and our democracy pelosi wrote in a
letter in which she also renewed the
threat of impeaching trump
if pence does not initiate proceedings
for the cabinet to remove him of the
25th amendment as you just mentioned
i want to go through a couple of things
because uh we're definitely on the same
page
as usual um number one
uh even though this is coming at the
11th hour
if not the 25th hour um we've seen how
much damage
donald trump can do every single day
that he's in office that he's in power
so the 25th amendment at the 25th hour i
guess is
rather appropriate for how we've all
just generally been asleep at the wheel
but i i am rooting for them to at least
impeach him
they're not going to get two-thirds if
they are they're getting more republican
support but they're not going to get
two-thirds of the senate
to convict him okay it's gonna there's
gonna be a repeat
of the ukrainian situation so he won't
be removed from office through
impeachment
but at least he'll have to wear the
shame
and i'll get back to that word shame in
a second michael the shame of being a
one-term president who was impeached
twice
that would be kind of awesome because
his narcissism you know you know how
much he loves being loved
he talks about the crowds and the
gatherings and the rallies
what we saw wednesday was just another
rally as far as he was concerned
something that showed him that people
still love him and adore him and worship
him
so i hope that somewhere deep down in
places he doesn't talk about at parties
that he that he is tortured and
tormented for the rest of his life which
hopefully is not very long
i hope he is tormented by the thought of
being a one-term
two impeachment president because he
deserves that he deserves
to to have that disgrace attached to him
having said all that michael
i do want to go back to you know you
just laid out the 13 required cabinet
members
uh out of 24 required along with the
vice president
to remove him under section four of
the 25th amendment i'm no congressional
scholar
but i was today years old when i learned
michael holly
that it was not until 19 was the 25th
amendment so i should tell you all you
need to know
but it wasn't until kennedy's
assassination in 1963
that these procedures were even put into
place
it wasn't until kennedy was shot that
lyndon johnson took over and the 25th
amendment and all these procedures were
talking about was actually implemented
in 1963
you would think that be among the first
things they consider like you know what
happens if the president
you know can't fulfill his duties for
whatever reason like how do we handle
that
you would think so right so it goes to
show you that there was a lot of
loopholes
and if nothing else if there is a shred
of a silver lining in this entire
uh catastrophe uh that is the last four
years
but there's a shred of it maybe our
lawmakers and
and the folks in charge get together and
say hey we need to kind of like
re-examine this process because under
section 4
it takes 13 of the 24 members of
a cabinet appointed by said president
confirmed but appointed by said
president it takes his running mate to
remove him from office
mike pence about their life so even if
they didn't resign
he's right pence is not about to press
that particular button
okay so he's not picking up the phone
right now he's not picking up why not
why why not
you know it's obvious why not but you're
right you would think no at this stage
why not
because it's not as obvious as you as if
he if he
okay i'll say it this way if i'm
advising him let's just pretend
that i i'm his i like this role play
let's pretend that i have a republican
consultant advisor uh i'm who i'm who
steve schmidt used to be i'm the new
steve schmidt
you know okay so uh i'm a republican
strategist advisor and i say mike
do you want to have a political career
when this is over you want to have a
a political career uh in fewer than two
weeks
you do okay right now
if all good if things were great if
things were great
you were known as the silent sidekick of
donald trump
that's it that's your best your that's
your your ceiling
that's it silent sidekick yes
right okay yes and if
trump before everything happened on
wednesday if trump didn't want
run in 2024 everyone's going to say well
maybe like this
it wouldn't be pence it's going to be
cruz it's going to be harley
my point is he's got no identity
he's just a silent guy is this his
opportunity
nope nope sorry opportunity you're
making a lot of sense
you're making a lot of sense logically
there you go being logical again then
you go being reasonable again if you
were advising him i'm just
seeing people trying to help i'm just
trying to help out my partner
your solutions oriented i get you your
solutions oriented man i got you
bottom line though is is mike pence
can't stand on ceremony and say you know
you will not win this will not be
tolerated and try to disassociate
himself
at this juncture from donald trump he
doesn't get to be the hero in this case
but all of this is a move point because
he won't pick up the phone
okay like that another day has gone by
you just said it off the top michael you
were hoping that we'd be talking about
the 25th amendment another day has gone
by
and it hasn't been done what are they
going to impeach him on the 19th are
they gonna remove him on the 19th
you know i mean at this point we're
going into the weekend it's not gonna
happen
there's no sense of urgency to do it and
mike pence
isn't that courageous he is not a man of
principle
so much so that he will actually go
against
donald trump i'm sorry you can act like
one
hey hey to be a good he could be to be
one
he can participate i'm telling him
which one i'm about politicians i'm
saying that's about politicians that i
even like
to be a good politician you got to have
some acting chops in you
okay you gotta you gotta be able to step
outside of yourself
you know you know during those uh
debating exercises
where you have somebody on the other
side pretending to be against you
you got to be able to act a little bit
so mike pence just you're assuming
you're assuming that
pence actually thinks it's the best
thing to do lindsey graham
who was grandstanding the other night
talking about count me out enough's
enough
yeah yeah well i don't know if
impeachment will do more harm than good
all right man you know it's just it just
it doesn't
it doesn't compute for these people but
but just to put a bow on this one
point about the 25th amendment um
we need more checks and balances our
government is built on checks and
balances
there's some flaws in this system god
forbid we get another maniac in the oval
office
but if we do we got to make sure said
maniac doesn't brainwash the people
around him or intimidate the people
around him so much so
that none of them will stand up to him
because i mean like that's happening
right
dollar show yes it goes maybe what's
happening okay
or 40 or 40 years late and a lot of
dollars short
mike have you ever done this uh in your
life i was
i do this sometimes i don't know if it's
just the the phase i'm going through
you know i'll go through phases we all
do but
i'll think back to
five years ago or even three years ago
and say
wow i wasn't scared in that situation
but now as i look back over my life and
think about
what i what i came through a particular
situation or two you're like
wow that was crazy but i was so focused
i didn't even have the good sense to be
as scared
as i should have been i'm gonna say i'll
give you a basic example and it's very
serious but
okay i'm i'm here to talk about it there
have been times i don't know if this has
ever happened to you there have been
times
no driving very late at night like one
time i was crazy enough
uh i was probably like 25 years old i
was crazy enough
to drive cross-country by myself
and i don't know how i got through
nebraska i don't quite remember
it uh meaning i fell asleep
driving a car on the highway
and thank god for the grace i'm here to
talk about it
right so you think about some things
that happen to you
and then in retrospect you say oh oh god
i just don't know how i got through that
i'm thankful and that's how i feel about
wednesday
because in the moment it's happening
we're talking about it on the air
this is happening but now let me just
say it out loud
this is what happened in the united
states of america on wednesday
first before there was a storming of the
capital before that happened
the president of these united states
spoke to a crowd and said we're going to
go down pennsylvania avenue
and we're going to we're going to kind
of toughen up those weak republicans the
strong ones don't need us but we're
going to tell them
what's going on and we're going to get
this thing straight now i'm going to go
down there with you he didn't do it
i'm going to go there with you rudy
giuliani said to a
crowd hey this is trial by combat
he told them we gotta be strong we gotta
fight they incited what happened cited a
mob
they incited him and decided to ride in
our country
and it was as it was happening in real
time look i i i said this is crazy this
is unprecedented and all that stuff
but as you step back and think about all
the things that could have happened
such as the two pipelines found outside
that were real pipe bombs
and that people were armed going into
the capitol building
by the presidency of the united states a
guillotine and what the arizona state
capitol i mean it might it's
it's still mind-blowing it is hard i
know it's hard to process
i don't it's we're still picking up the
pieces we'll be picking up the pieces
for a very long time
i think i think i thought we would see i
think i thought we would see a scene
like that
maybe on inauguration day which thank
god it's official trump's not going
i guess pence is gonna go i wouldn't
invite his behind either
or michael i'm shocked because you
remember the conversation about violence
standing back and stand by
was about polls it was about voting day
i thought november earliest week thought
i thought november third would have been
the day
where we'd have seen some intimidation
tactics i mean we knew that it was
coming
at some point that this was going to
boil over and it had been boiling over
you know how like a pot
you know like it'll it'll boil just a
little bit you know and there'll be some
bubbles but then like you turn the heat
all the way up and now it's like you
know everything's all over
yeah that's what wednesday was right you
know um
that's all i can do is boil water by the
way i haven't cooked the day in my life
though it's been a long time oh come on
now
come on now you're being modest but
you're being modest
but yeah i thought it would have been
november 3rd
uh but it took wednesday to hopefully
hopefully michael uh shake us up and
wake us up because going back to just
impeachment
i don't think so though for i don't
think so well
i i mean in terms of just closing these
loopholes
i mean in terms of yeah okay i hope in
terms of making sure
that somebody can be removed and it
doesn't take so much
to to alleviate what i've been calling
what you've been calling we've all
recognized to alleviate
such a direct threat to our national
security
not china not russia not iran
but rather donald trump is the biggest
national security threat
facing our nation and has been for four
years michael i i keep
i'm sorry if i hope you're not annoyed
when i do this
you know and maybe there's something to
be said for like hey what's done we
can't keep going back we got to move
forward we got to fix it now
i can't get over the fact that these
people stormed the capital claiming an
election was stolen
when their god okay that when their guy
when their president donald trump his
campaign colluded and conspired
with russia in 2016 to meddle in our
election
that's a fact but yet
we stole this election from them
so he should have been if the mueller
report
had done its job if he should have been
impeached and removed over that but he
wasn't
they eventually got around to impeaching
him
over ukraine he should have been removed
over that
michael we're laying out all the date
the danger that he has to the country
right now
and nancy pelosi is worried about the
nuclear codes i've been
about the not
from available over his mishandling of
this pandemic
so it took you there and that's what you
said you know
i know you were talking about closing up
the loopholes all right great
but the reason i'm just i'm just kind of
just
looking around like what's going on here
it's because now we've gone back to our
corners
now you see that uh we had in the lower
third there
that over 200 members of congress have
have called for his removal
from office and look at that only
one republican has yeah so
somehow we have fooled ourselves
again into thinking that this is a
partisan issue
my man stevie the man stevie wonder once
said i don't have to do nothing to you
you cause your own country to fall
like what what are you thinking i just
told you
we saw we experienced on wednesday
the capital being under siege everybody
was in danger republicans were in danger
especially
the republicans uh kind of egged on by
the president the republicans that the
mob
uh identifies as rhinos so if they had
seen mitt romney
like mitt romney would have been in
danger who knows
lindsey graham would have been in danger
uh you know so they're
it's not it wasn't a partisan thing i'll
just say this and i don't know how you
you tell me uh how your kids dealt with
it
this week only this week only uh
my kids are are working from home or
remote learning yeah yeah so i get to
hear everything
i in all of their classes we got a
second grader we got a fourth grader we
got a sixth grader and all their classes
all the teachers talked about what
happened on wednesday i thought it was
great
don't hide from it let's talk about it
there's some confidence yeah it was real
yeah in beckham's class
fourth grade oh michael smith i needed
some restraint
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all right so look i know this let me
make sure that's on there
um i i know this parent
um i know he is a trump supporter
because i actually got caught i didn't
know this beforehand i got caught
flat-footed
i i got caught like you know a little
small talk conversation
then i was thinking this dude was a
little off some something's not right
about him did he start talking about
politics i'm like okay
i got you so i just kind of let me just
back away
and just be on be on my way
his daughter spoke up in class after the
teacher
lays it out hey does anybody have any
questions
daughter speaks up in class and says i
just think we should give our president
another chance and see
that okay this is what i'm talking about
one
it's hard as a parent just to kind of
bite yourself so bite your tongue
sometimes
i bit my tongue the other student said i
don't know what you're talking about he
had four years
and this happened this is not this is
even fourth graders telling her
right but the other thing the serious
point though mike
is we're talking about children so what
is the message
that you are imprinting right now
in the united states some children get
it
yeah and some children uh like that
little girl
inspired by her father who was all about
that life
is saying hey what happened didn't
really happen
she's in some kind of fantasy land and
it's not just fourth graders
no we've got grown folks who are in the
same position
you