Hey Chris, how are you? Chris:
Good, how are you doing? Matt Palazzolo:
Good, man. I appreciate you taking the time. So I'm new to all of your
Masterpass and all that stuff. I've been going through some things,
have a two-part question. It mainly regards some of the things that we've been trying
to work on, specifically with my wife. So her and I have both been taking a zinc
supplement, the Jarrow formula, the one that you've recommended, and when I take it,
I can take it in the morning at probably 11/12 hours into a 16-hour restricted window.
At the beginning I would get a little nauseous, but I'm okay now. If she takes it,
she takes it in the morning, I mean, it's brutal. It completely just knocks her down and I guess my
first question was, is there a direct correlation between nausea and zinc deficiency? So she's
extremely nauseous from it and I'm not, does that indicate that she's dealing with a higher level
of zinc deficiency? And if so, what's the process? Does she just have to suck it up and work through
it and build up the tolerance? Or is there a different approach that has to be taken for her to
supplement with zinc? Chris:
What dose is it? Matt Palazzolo:
15, 15 milligram. Chris:
Just a 15? One capsule? As far as I know, there's no relationship between the nausea
and zinc deficiency. I could be wrong, maybe there's research on it I haven't seen
or it could be not researched but I don't think there's a connection. My guess would be that that
is either related to her ionizing it faster in the GI tract than you, or something else related to
her nausea impulse that might be nutritional, it might be genetic, it might be male/female.
So I don't know what it is but I don't think it is related to zinc deficiency,
and I don't think it's something that she should have to power through either. So basically,
if it's making you... So 15 milligrams, one five milligrams of zinc generally doesn't
make most people nauseated, but it makes some people nauseated and if it makes you nauseated,
then I think what you want to do is either take a little bit of... You could test out whether a
little bit of bone broth or orange juice, or what have you with it buffers that enough to
stop the nausea, and if it doesn't, I would just try to take it with a phytate-free meal. And by
a phytate-free meal, I mean, a meal that doesn't have any whole grains, nuts, seeds, or legumes.
So the rationale for having it on an empty stomach is decent, but it's nowhere near as
strong as the rationale for not having it with phytate. So it's controversial whether you're
going to get a beneficial effect of having it on empty stomach versus a phytate-free meal, because,
generally, the research when it promoted empty stomach was not versus a phytate-free meal.
So that controversy is around, "Well, maybe that's just because there was phytate in the meal."
So at the end of the day, if 15 milligrams of zinc makes you nauseated, just take it with
a phytate-free meal. Matt Palazzolo:
Okay. I got that. And the second part of then... Apologize about the background noise. We're
getting a lot of snow up here so- Chris:
That's fine. Matt Palazzolo:
... they're just plowing on it. I came across when I was doing some further research
an article that was labeled Studies on the Bioavailability of Zinc in Humans affects on
Heme and Non-heme Iron on the Absorption of Zinc. So he's anemic and she's been taking 35 milligrams
of an iron bisglycinate for probably eight/ nine months now, and we took it by itself. We
also took the Thorne formula, the Ferrasorb that I think has vitamin C. It has folate in it as well.
Matt Palazzolo: The iron doesn't seem to
bother her stomach or anything that, but is there any possible association with
the iron supplementation and the zinc for the efficacy of the zinc
for her as well? Because the article was saying something around 35 milligrams can inhibit the
amount of the zinc being absorbed. Now I don't know if that was something where she
had to take them at different times or she shouldn't be taking them together at all.
Chris: I would not take them at the same meal
just to be on the safe side. Matt Palazzolo:
Okay. Perfect. Perfect. Awesome. Yeah, those are my questions. I appreciate it, Chris. Thanks.
Chris: Thank you. Take Care, good to meet you.
Matt Palazzolo: You as well.