What is up, viewer crew?
Today we are back in the missing 411 cluster right here
in the woods.
We we're heading back because you guys said something
in our comments over and over again that you
think we found something very significant in our last search.
That is a surgical plate, you guys
said that we've probably found a surgical plate.
I know exactly where it is but there's
so many freaking people here.
I'm not sure if we're going to be able to actually find it
because someone may have taken it and thrown it.
I don't know.
It's just complete people everywhere around here.
That makes it stranger while that guy went missing.
Let's go up there and see if we can actually find the plate.
You guys ready?
Let's go.
Here's our infamous bags of poop.
There's one here.
They put their dog poop in a bag.
Look it up there there's two more bags.
They're just going to leave their dog
crap all over the place.
Freaking granola eaters, huh, dad?
Yeah.
For thos who are new, we're going to do a quick recap.
And if you want an in-depth explanation of this video,
go check out our last video that we posted right
before this video, and you get an in-depth explanation
on exactly what this video is about.
So if you don't know what missing 411 is,
it's a phenomenon where people are
going missing in clusters under like eerily similar
mysterious circumstances.
And in our last video, we covered two disappearances
that happened in this area.
There's one that happened right here at this trailhead,
and then there's another like five,
10 miles away up at Galena Park, which
we're going to go check that out and a little bit.
But right now we're on a mission to try to see if that really
was a surgical plate.
And like everyone in the comments was like urging us,
you guys got to go back, you got to go back.
So we came back right away.
And let's go see if it's still there.
But, yeah, that's why a lot of people
are kind of scared of these woods.
And everyone's telling us to be like super careful in these
woods.
But what's even more weird is the amount of people
that are here, it's like unbelievable amounts people.
Like you would think you're in a city.
So how the heck are people going missing here.
And a lot of people get lost here too.
So we have to be really careful.
And there's more people coming.
Let's run away from them.
Let's go.
I guess I don't even know if the surgical plate will even
be there with all these people that are literally
crawling around.
Like here comes some more.
They're like everywhere here.
Hello.
How's it going?
Good.
It's crazy how this place is crawling with people
yet he vanished right here in these woods somewhere,
just completely vanished.
I think that's why the 411 phenomenon is
so interesting is how people just can vanish
without a freaking trace.
And I didn't realize it because they usually comes in a week.
But this place is just crawling with people.
OK, guys, the reason why we wanted to come back quickly
and hope it's still there is because people told us,
usually on the back there's a serial number.
And we didn't check the back because we thought
it was just a scrap of metal.
But then we start looking at pictures online,
and it looks like exactly like it.
So we're going to go double check if it's still there.
I mean there's a ton of people here,
so we don't know if it's still going to be there.
Those are like ashes there for sure.
That's not what the other stuff looks like, though.
The other stuff looks a lot different.
Let's go see.
We're close now.
Yeah, now here's the first section of bones.
A little bit of bones here.
And there's literally no ashes in here.
I mean, maybe there's a little.
I don't know.
I can't tell.
I don't think so, though.
Looks more like just granules of bones.
Keep going.
And there's no burn marks on the bone.
Right here, there's some pretty big bone fragments are here.
And there's no ashes around here.
I mean, do you think they would leave that much bone fragments
around?
I don't know.
I don't so.
I don't think so either.
It was at this tree?
No, no.
Yeah, and do you notice how there's way
less people on this trail?
Yeah.
There's like nobody that goes on this trail.
So far.
There might be a little creeping around, though.
Creepy granola eaters, you mean?
Yeah.
That's scary stuff.
With their Fanny packs on their head?
Some even bigger bones coming up on the right hand side.
I mean, that would be one poor job or cremation.
But it doesn't make sense if they're
ashes because we literally found animal bones in them.
It's still here.
It really does look like that.
I mean, honestly.
That is definitely a bone implant.
Is there a serial number on it?
There's no serial number on this one, though.
So I don't know.
Think it could be like a dog or something?
A dog's?
Mm-mm.
A surgical plate?
Do all of them have serial numbers?
Yeah, I don't know.
That's definitely looks like all the ones that I've seen.
That's why that bend is there because it literally
goes like on a bone.
There was still in this pile of--
Some people seem to think these are ashes.
But I mean, are there ashes here?
But why is there animal bones in the ashes?
And why are there a lot of bones that are like--
Some little chunks of bones are being teeth maybe.
But this doesn't remind me of cremation.
I've seen cremations before, they didn't look like this.
They had small, small fragments, and that was it.
All right, guys, another thing I wanted
to address, there's a comment I heard a few times, as they say,
why look up?
Clearly if it's been so long, if anything
was hanging from the tree, it would be gone, right?
Well that's true.
The thing would be gone from the tree and the rope.
But the rope would still be there
and that would give us a location
to really narrow down our search if we
were able to find a rope or something hanging from a tree.
We would've known that someone was there.
That's why we say look up.
Bigfoot built that, dad.
I hear people.
Yeah, we might wan to get back on the trail
because I can imagine them being narcs.
Something right there, I don't know.
Yeah, that's like a lip balm.
It's like a lit balm.
There are some dogs right there.
Some reasons [INAUDIBLE].
Woah.
As you go up this trail, and go to where
the boardwalk terminates on this trail, and then
conduct a search in that area.
Because remember, in a lot of cases,
they go just out of view.
They just want to be just out of view, people.
So they'll walk somewhere and then they'll go.
They're a little farther, so you can't see them.
And I think that's what we need to go look for.
Let's go [INAUDIBLE].
Let's go.
I mean Tahoe Rim Trail is 165 mile trail that
goes all the way around Tahoe.
And even people going for like simple
walks around here, experienced hikers, they get lost.
They even found a Canadian hiker not too long ago near his tent,
and they found his remains.
And I don't think the news ever updated what happened to him.
So there's a lot of weird stuff that
happens around here basically.
So let's go.
It's almost as like there's a rope hanging
from that tree, that would be perfect.
See how it's bent over right there?
It looks like it could be a rope.
I'm not sure, but we should go investigate that for sure.
Let's wait for these granola eaters to go by,
and then we'll head up there.
Let's do it.
Are they leaving?
No, I don't think there's anything.
I'm actually starting to think, after we've
been researching so much, and we've
read so much about how many people go missing out here,
how easy it would have been for him in the snow to go missing.
Just go look it up, guys.
Go look it up how many people freaking go missing.
Let's keep going.
[INAUDIBLE]
That's really weird.
Sounds like Mark Zuckerberg.
He's a reptilian.
The rest of this path right here.
It's look like a path that we should go look.
Because remember, they just go usually.
I mean, I know what I'm saying this a lot.
But it's true that in a lot of cases,
they just go out of sight, just out of the view.
So let's take a walk up here and try to get a view.
And I think we should take this hike a little bit,
what do you guy think?
Yeah,that's you right there.
How the heck that happen?
It grew sideways-- Well, something happened here.
Someone burned a lot of stuff.
But then look at all the tinfoil.
What we want to do is we want to get a view of this area
away from the trail towards the trail.
Is that it gives a much better view of the backside
because you know what I mean?
Mm-hm.
Because it's usually behind any of these trees.
Yeah, this is so vast.
I want you all to get us intel on what he was wearing.
The other video of him leaving the--
Nugget
--Nugget, yes.
So I mean, if they could've told us what he was wearing,
that could have been a big help to us
to know if he was wearing warm clothing because his family say
he was despondent, so I mean it seemed they hinted at that.
You know what I mean?
They didn't say that that's exactly what they thought
happened to the guy, but they hinted at that,
so that's what we are going on because that's
all we have to go on.
That's what we're trying to go on.
We're going to look, though.
We're not going to give up.
I think we should head up this trail with those mountain
bikers went.
See if Mark is there.
Yeah, bears freaking chewing on this stuff over here.
We're going to go towards where the mountain bikers
rescue of Mark Zuckerberg, sir.
I see something over here, some trash.
I'm just going to take look on what it is.
It's a woman's fricking-- anything is like--
Eww.
[INTERPOSING VOICES]
It's a pad.
Oh, my God!
Ugh.
Whatever.
Emma, can't leave a bear, but your pad,
and you left it out here.
It's disgusting, Emma.
Remember in the winter, when it's
like snow all over the ground.
All of this would be covered.
Like, all the plants would be covered and flat.
So where he is, like, right now, might not make any sense.
But in the winter, it might.
Exactly, yeah.
Bigfoot just did that.
We watched him, and he looked just like Emma.
It's a butt-tree.
Look, the trail is right there, but you can't see it.
Yeah, it's an easy place to get lost.
I hear someone riding their bike.
If they sneak up on us, we're going to have to punch them.
That guy is acting a little weird.
Why would he cut through there?
Why would he cut through there, dude?
He's not looking at us at all.
He saw us, and he just kept walking like he didn't see us.
Guess we don't need to cover that area.
And he's wrong.
He was on this trail the whole time, and then boom, cuts left.
Sort of marches through the bushes.
You know what I mean?
Hey, don't film this.
Pick it up!
Here's a reminder.
Guys, good.
I heard granola eater.
So we got something right here's.
I don't know the fuck that is.
Someone did wipe their ass over there.
I'm not sure what happened on the trail.
They had to take a little pit stop.
Clothes.
Look it.
It's literally a piece of like a shirt.
It's literally a piece of a shirt.
Does it look bloody?
I mean, kind of, yeah.
You're touching--
Hey, we could test it for blood.
Do we have a luminol kit?
Yeah.
Let's take this, and test it for blood.
Also, let's look around here.
What the heck?
What's this?
What the heck is that?
Some kind of a wrapper.
There's something right here.
Dog poop bag way up here.
Oh, maybe I'm squishing the little poop at the bottom.
Over there is a huge amount of stuff.
Do you see it, Bob?
Look it, straight past those.
That's definitely something.
Do you see it?
Yeah.
There's also something out here.
It's under this tree again.
Everything's always under the trees.
It's like where all the weirdos stop.
Dog craps.
What the--
Well, we got closer, it was just a log, but the spot is crazy.
Cut this way.
What is that?
Like a towel or something.
See something?
If you're going to the bathroom, I
think they just leaving their tissues there.
Jeez loueez, they come here, and they have poop problems.
They throw all their dog waste all
over the trail when there's literally a dog waste
container right here.
I don't know, I mean, they just drag along
and people bring their dogs here.
So we're going to head back down this road to where
the other guy went missing under a really,
like, creepily, similar circumstances.
This is the site of the second disappearance
we covered in the last video.
His car was found parked right next to the dumpster
over there.
So the dumpster over there.
So there's some confusion on our last video,
and the comments on this case.
And so we have to give you a brief background.
And the guy who went missing here,
the family wasn't fully comfortable
with us making a video on it.
So we're just going to call him the missing man.
Guys, we want to be respectful for the family.
Yeah, we don't want to be disrespectful.
So he lived in Reno, and he had come out here at 9:45 PM.
And what's so weird about this is the park
is consistently closed every night at 7:00 PM.
But this night, there was a wedding
being held right over there.
And he wasn't a regular at this park.
So somehow, he knew that night, that the gate
would have been open.
So that's what's really weird about it.
So it needs to be made clear is that his car was parked
right there, and the ranger saw it on the very first night.
And it says right there, on that sign, as you're coming in,
and we'll show you right now, it says no overnight parking here.
Therefore, you cannot camp here.
There is no camping spots here.
You're not allowed to camp here.
Not even allowed to park overnight.
And that's why a lot of people were
saying, "Oh, if I was a ranger, I
probably would have thought he was camping, or maybe hiking."
But this is more of like just a recreational park.
You come here to go for walks and barbecue.
And then it's closed at 7:00 PM.
Exactly.
Leisurely walk, I think the longest hike
is nine miles through here.
So basically, you're supposed to be out of here.
That's what's so weird is the ranger took four days until it
was on the news, to report it.
And a lot of people think that's really weird.
Especially tight in with our interaction with the ranger
here.
And if you haven't seen that video,
you should go watch it after this one.
Link will be in the description down below.
Go watch it, after watching this video.
Exactly.
And another thing that's really bizarre
is he knew that he was here from day after day.
We think it was part of the ranger we talked to last time,
and you guys saw him.
Everyone said he acted really bizarre.
We think it was that guy.
We're not sure though, we have no proof that's him.
The car was here.
He was locking the gate behind somebody.
I mean, as a ranger, if I was a ranger here,
the first I would be thinking is somebody must be lost,
or something in the park.
This is a small park.
Yeah.
This is not a huge park.
Yeah, this is like three parking lots.
And he came up here to mess with us,
just walking around and filming.
Another thing that brings up to this,
a lot of people trying to say we need a permit to film.
I'm not sure, we don't need a permit to film here.
You can go look at the rules yourself.
At the Galena Park, you don't need them.
We're not hired.
We're not anybody here is hired.
There's no models or props.
There's no models.
And it's news related.
And this is a news story, where literally it
has public interest to.
Everything it checks, all the marks, you don't need that.
Even in a federal park, National Park Service,
we wouldn't even need that if we're
doing news related stories.
We had a couple of people, for some reason there,
they act like we shouldn't be filming here.
Like it's gets even weird is like why would you not want
us to be here looking for missing people,
and bringing awareness.
Why would you want to rat on people
who are trying to find missing people, who
are trying to help people locate or bring awareness
to missing people?
To me, that just seems really bizarre.
I guess some people just weren't happy.
So if you want to go in, and call and snitch, feel free.
We don't care.
No.
We're here to search for a missing person,
and get the word out.
That's what we're here for.
So another thing that's weird about this case
is he told everybody that he was going
to be going for a swim with a friend,
but there's really nowhere to swim here.
There's a pond down there, but nobody swims there.
It's sort of fishing, so that's what's really weird.
He was wearing flip-flops so he could have gotten far.
It's not like he was probably hiking up there,
so he pretty much just disappeared.
His truck was found here.
Search dogs were not able to pick up a scent.
That's another thing that's common with the missing four
in one cases.
And actually, something with the other case,
I don't think they have any sign of him over there.
These two cases are really weird because there
are a lot of like--
All right, guys.
This is the end of our second day search.
And you guys asked us to go back, and we did.
If you guys like to see us go back a third time,
smash that like button.
We are pretty sure, we're about 99% sure that what we found,
and what you guys told us, was a bone plate.
It was indeed a bone plate.
All right, guys, we also-- we're not really sure
if that was cremations, or not.
What we found interesting is A, the bone
that we had removed from there was not a human bone.
It was an animal bone, from some kind of animal.
In addition, we didn't see any of the bones,
didn't seem to be charred.
They were not brown or charred.
So we're not really sure if that really was cremations or not,
but we left everything there, and we took off, Guys,
so make sure you smash the like button,
10,000 likes, and we will go back for a part three.
Thanks for watching, guys.
We'll see you next time.