PANEL THAT I HOSTED ON WOMEN IN BUSINESS. SO LET’S GET STARTED THIS MORNING ON FLASHPOINT. MHM.
MICHIGAN’S PRIMARY IS STILL
NEARLY TWO MONTHS AWAY. BUT THIS
YEAR’S GUBERNATORIAL RACE IS
ALREADY A ROLLER COASTER RIDE
FOR THE RECORD BOOKS. THE
REPUBLICAN SIDE STARTED WITH 10
CANDIDATES UNTIL FIVE WERE
DISQUALIFIED FROM THE BALLOT FOR
FRAUDULENT SIGNATURES. AND ONE
OF THEM IS PERRY JOHNSON. WHO IS
OUR FIRST GUEST THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME
. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING
CERTAINLY BEEN ON A BIT OF A
ROLLER COASTER RIDE. I CAN ONLY
IMAGINE THE BLOW THAT THIS TOOK
ON YOUR CAMPAIGN. YOUR TEAM,
EVERYBODY THAT’S WORKED SO HARD
TO GET YOU THIS FAR. IN FACT, I
WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT MONDAY
WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST
DAYS OF MY LIFE. BUT MORE
IMPORTANTLY, YOU HAVE TO FACTOR
IN THAT THE VOTERS ARE
DISENFRANCHISED, AND THAT’S A
KEY ELEMENT. YOU HAVE PEOPLE
THAT SIGNED THE PETITIONS. AND
THE MAIN REASON FOR THE
PETITIONS TO BEGIN WITH IS THAT
YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE
REASONABLE SUPPORT. BUT IT’S NO
SECRET THAT WAS NUMBER TWO IN
THE POLLS, AND I’VE ONLY BEEN
RUNNING FOR THREE MONTHS.
OBVIOUSLY HAD REASONABLE SUPPORT
, AND IT’S NO SECRET THAT I
TURNED IN 23,100. PETITIONS OR
THEY’RE ABOUT SO LET’S TALK
ABOUT THESE SIGNATURES AND THE
IMPORTANCE THAT THEY ARE
ACCURATE AND THEY ARE VALIDATED
. DID YOU HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE
THAT SCRUTINIZE EACH AND
EVERYONE MAKING SURE THEIR
VOTERS MAKING SURE THEY LIVE IN
MICHIGAN? WAIT A 2ND 1ST OF ALL
AS A PRACTICAL MATTER. I WANT
YOU TO REALIZE THAT THE TEAM
THAT THEY HAD OVER THERE IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY SECRETARY OF
STATE CLAIMED THAT IT WAS
IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO CHECK ALL
THE NAMES AND THEY HAVE THE
VOTER FILE. THEY CAN ACTUALLY
CHECK THE SIGNATURES. WE CAN’T
I’LL GET A FEW EXAMPLE. SO
THERE’S NO PROCESS IN PLACE FOR
YOUR CAMPAIGN TEAM THAT VERIFIED
THESE SIGNATURES. VERIFY PEOPLE
THAT LIVE IN THESE LOCATIONS
THAT ARE VOTERS THINK ABOUT IT
TO VERIFY THEM WITH YOUR TEAM. I
WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENS. YOU HIRE PETITIONERS?
AND YOU HIRE A CONSULTANT IN THE
HEART OF THE PETITIONERS, AND
THEN THEY GATHERED THE
SIGNATURES. NOW. IF I HAD TO
TELEMARKETING OPERATION, FOR
EXAMPLE, I HAD THAT FOR
APPROXIMATELY 10 YEARS, AND IF
YOU HAVE A SPECTACULAR
TELEMARKETER THEY MAKE $150 A
DAY THEY GET AHOLD OF 30 PEOPLE.
THAT’S HOW MANY THEY’LL GET
AHOLD OF HER DAY. SO LET’S SAY
THAT WE HAVE 23,000. FOR EACH.
100 YOU’RE GOING TO NEED THREE
AND A THIRD DAYS TO GET AHOLD OF
100 PEOPLE. YOU WOULD NEED A
TOTAL OF 33 DAYS TO GO TO HOLD
UP 1000 PEOPLE. WHAT DOES THIS
HAVE TO DO WITH JUST THE
ABILITY? HOW DO YOU VERIFY
SIGNATURE? IF YOU CAN’T SEE IT,
THINK ABOUT IT. LOOK AT THESE.
UH ALL OF THEM. YOU YOUR TEAM
COLLECTED THEM. DO YOU FEEL LIKE
THIS FIRM FAILED YOU IN ANY WAY
YOU HIRED SOME PEOPLE PAID MONEY
FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT WITH FIVE
FIRMS. AND MANY OF THOSE
SIGNATURES ENOUGH TO GET YOU
BOOTED OFF THE BALLOT BERT
BALLAD, ACCORDING TO THE
DEMOCRATS, WE NEVER HAD A RIGHT
TO CHALLENGE THEM EVER. AND THIS
IS A SYSTEM THAT EVERYBODY HAS
TO FOLLOW, NOT JUST FOR HER, BUT
THAT’S NOT TRUE. THIS IS GIVE
YOU THIS SYSTEM. I’M GONNA GIVE
YOU THIS SYSTEM. WE’RE GOING TO
HAVE THE REPUBLICANS CHECKED ALL
OF BIDEN’S VOTES. NOW THEY’RE
GOING TO CHECK THEM. THE
DEMOCRATS NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO
LOOK. WE’RE JUST TALKING ABOUT
YOU PETITIONS. LET’S LET’S GOOD
. LET’S JUMP OVER TO THE GOOD,
SO YOU’RE OFF THE BALLOT RIGHT
NOW. BALLOTS ARE ALREADY HAVE
BEGUN BEING PRINTED. SO WHAT IS
YOUR PROCESS? BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT
GIVING UP THIS FIGHT. WE SAW
JAMES CRAGGY WANTS TO GO RIGHT
IN. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I’M
GOING TO FIGHT RIGHT IS ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE INSTEAD OF 2% 2%
TUTOR YOU’RE GONNA HAVE 2% CRAIG
. THE REALITY OF THE MATTER IS
YOU HAVE TO GET ON THE BALLOT.
AND THE JUDGE, I BELIEVE FEELS
THAT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
WERE VIOLATED BECAUSE WE DIDN’T
HAVE A CHANCE TO EVEN ARGUE OUR
CASE. IS THAT WHAT THE JUDGE
TOLD YOU BELIEVE THAT’S WHAT THE
JUDGE IS GOING TO RULE. WE HAVE
A VERY FAIR JUDGE. SO AS OF THIS
TAPING RIGHT NOW, THERE’S NO
DECISION. WHAT HAPPENS IF THE
DECISION IS YOU WILL NOT BE ON
THE BALLOT. WHAT’S YOUR NEXT
STEP? IF THE JUDGE DECIDES WE’RE
NOT ON THE BALLOT. BECAUSE OF
THE FACT THAT THEY CANNOT HAVE
ENOUGH PAPER, BUT I SHOULD BE ON
THE BALLOT. BUT IF THE DECISION
IS YOUR NAME WILL NOT BE ON THE
BALLOT WILL PROBABLY APPEAL IT.
MHM REALITY OF THE MATTER IS
THEY ADMITTED THAT I HAD 2400
VALID SIGNATURES. THEY ADMITTED
IT. THAT THEY EXCLUDED. AND THEY
SAID THEY JUST DECIDED TO
EXCLUDE EXCLUDE THEM FOR A
VARIETY OF REASONS. WE THEN
SAID, OKAY, WE CHALLENGE THAT WE
WANT TO LOOK AT THEM. WHAT WAS
THEIR ANSWER? WE DON’T HAVE THEM
. LET’S SAY YOU DO CHALLENGE IT
AND YOU FIND OUT AND YOU SEE,
OKAY. THESE ARE NOT VALID
SIGNATURES. YOU’RE YOU’RE
EXCLUDING THE FACT THAT THAT
COULD ACTUALLY BE SAID THERE
WERE VALID. THEY ADMITTED THEY
WERE VALID. YOU HAD ENOUGH THAT
WERE INVALID. NO, NO, I WAS ONLY
HALF 1224 100 THAT THEY SAID
WERE VALID SIGNATURES ADMITTED
THEY WERE VALID TELLING YOUR
SUPPORTERS A LOT OF PEOPLE
CONTRIBUTED TO YOUR CAMPAIGN.
NOT MANY IF YOU’RE NOT PULLING
SELF FUNDED. IN FACT, THE
REALITY OF THE MATTER IS THE
PEOPLE AT THE END THAT
CONTRIBUTED TO THE ONE FINANCE
ONE FUNDRAISER THAT I HAD IN MY
LIFE. I HAVE SAVED THE CHECKS
AND RETURN IT TO HIM. IF I’M NOT
ON THE BALLOT, THE REALITY IS
THAT WE’RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
VOTERS WHO WANT TO BE ABLE TO
ELECT THE CANDIDATES THAT SHOULD
BE ON THE REPUBLICAN TICKET
INSTEAD OF HAVING THE DEMOCRATS
DECIDE WHO SHOULD BE ON THE
TICKET, CERTAINLY UNCHARTED
WATERS HERE TO SEE THIS NUMBER
OF PEOPLE OFF OF THE BALLOT. UM,
AND THAT’S NEVER HAPPENED. I
THINK WHAT YOU SAID IN THE
BEGINNING BECAUSE YOU PUT
OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF WORK AND A
LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS CAMPAIGN
AND FOR THIS BLOW TO HAPPEN OVER
7 $7.5 MILLION IN THE CAMPAIGN.
AND I BELIEVE I’M IN THE RIGHT
AND NOT ONLY THAT, I BELIEVE
THAT THEY’RE DEAD WRONG IN THE
NUMBER OF NUMBER OF SIGNATURES
THAT THEY INVALIDATED. THE
REALITY IS WE CHECKED THEM. YOU
CAN LOOK AT THESE. THESE ARE
ONES WE DID NOT TURN IN. WE
DIDN’T TURN THEM. DON’T GET ON
THE BALLOT. WILL YOU TRY TO RUN
AGAIN? IF I DON’T GET ON THE
BALLOT. I WILL PROBABLY APPEAL
IT RIGHT IN. YOU’LL APPEAL IF
NONE OF THAT WORKS. IS THERE AN
OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU THINK IN
YOUR FUTURE WHERE YOU WOULD
CONSIDER GOING THROUGH THIS
PROCESS? WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR
THREE YEARS AGO. BUT YOU KNOW
WHAT I WOULD DO? I WOULD HAVE
30,000. IN FACT, WE WOULD HAVE
HAD 30,000 IF THE SECOND IF THEY
HAD TOLD US. WHAT THEY KNEW IN
MARCH THAT THEY HAD THIS GUY OUT
THERE THAT THEY SAID WAS DOING
FRAUDULENT WORK HAD THEY
COMMUNICATED THAT TO ALL THE
PEOPLE AND THEY KNEW IT, BUT I
WOULD HAVE HAD 30,000. YOU
SHOULD HAVE MADE SURE THAT HOW
DO YOU KNOW? HOW DO YOU KNOW?
OKAY. ONE OF THESE SIGNATURES
ISN’T VALID. TELL ME WHICH ONE
IT IS. WELL, GUESS WHAT? WE ARE
OUT OF TIME, BUT I COULDN’T TELL