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EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU, LOUIS.
♪ BA-DA-BA.
LOVELY NIGHT.
WHAT A LOVELY NIGHT.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A CONGRESSWOMAN FROM
NEW YORK'S 14th DISTRICT, REPRESENTING PARTS OF BRONX AND
QUEENS.
PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW," CONGRESSWOMAN
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ!
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OH, MY GOODNESS.
>> Audience: A.O.C.!
A.O.C.!
>> MY GOSH.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
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>> Stephen: I-- I THINK THAT MEANS YOU SHOULD VISIT MORE
OFTEN.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD YOU HERE.
NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
>> YES IN FACT TODAY IS ACTUALLY-- WE JUST REALIZED-- IS
THE FOUR-YEAR ANNIVERSARY SINCE I WAS HERE THE FIRST TIME, THE
VERY FIRST TIME.
>> Stephen: OH, WOW.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: OH, WOW.
>> RIGHT AFTER I WON MY PRIMARY.
>> Stephen: NOT MUCH HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
>> NOT MUCH AT ALL.
>> Stephen: OKAY, AUSPICIOUS TIME FOR YOU TO BE HERE.
WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY KNOW THE HEARING WAS GOING TO BE TODAY
WHEN YOU ORIGINALLY AGREED TO COME ON THE SHOW.
EXPLOSIVE HEARINGS TODAY.
DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO WATCH THE HEARINGS TODAY.
>> YES, YES, I DID.
>> Stephen: WHAT'S YOUR IMMEDIATE-- IF YOU DON'T MIND ME
PHRASING IT THIS WAY-- WHAT WAS YOUR IMMEDIATE TAKEAWAY FROM THE
EMOTIONAL TESTIMONY TODAY BECAUSE IT WAS STUNNING.
>> IT WAS JUST STUNNING.
TO UNDERSTAND AND SEE THE DETAIL AND THE DEPTH THROUGH WHICH
THERE WAS ALSO JUST A CONSCIENTIOUSNESS OF GUILT.
THEY KNEW THAT WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS WRONG.
WHEN AT THE VERY END OF THIS HEARING, YOU HEAR THAT MARK
MEADOWS, THE CHESTLES T THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF, ASKED FOR A
PARDON BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT HE WAS BREAKING THE LAW IN ORDER TO
SEIZE POWER AND UNDERMINE DEMOCRACY IN THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA.
IT IS STUNNING.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING.
AND THAT THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF WAS WILLING TO CHOKE HIS OWN
SECRET SERVICE.
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>> Stephen: DO YOU KNOW THE DETAIL ABOUT THAT I LIKE?
IS THAT HE GOES TO GRAB THE WHEEL, AND THIS IS HOW LONG IT'S
BEEN SINCE HE'S DRIVEN HIMSELF ANYWHERE, HE THINKS YOU CAN
DRIVE FROM THE BACK SEAT.
( LAUGHTER )
>> YES.
>> Stephen: AND ALL THAT.
>> YES, YES, YES.
>> Stephen: LET'S GET INTO THAT FOR A SECOND.
IT'S A LITTLE BACK WARDS HERE.
BUT WE LEARNED LAST WEEK THAT MANY MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND SOME MEMBERS
OF THE STAFF ASKED FOR PARDONS.
AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS THERE ON JANUARY 6, HOW-- WHAT IS YOUR
REACTION TO FINDING OUT THAT THERE IS THIS CONSCIOUSNESS OF
GUILT?
BECAUSE, LEGALLY, IF THE PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST SORT
OF A TERM OF ART TO GET A PARDON.
IT IS AN ADMISSION OF GUILT.
>> YES, YES, IT IS.
AND I THINK THERE WAS ALSO AN AWARENESS WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS
GOING ON, THERE WAS A FEELING AND A GREAT SENSE THAT THERE
WERE PEOPLE ON THE INSIDE.
AND WE LEARNED LAST WEEK THAT THTHERE WERE-- THERE WERE ONE IF
NORMORE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO BROUGHT IN THE
INSURRECTIONISTS TO ESSENTIALLY CASE THE JOINT BEFORE COMING IN
THE NEXT DAY.
AND TO WORK WITH PEOPLE OVER THE LAST YEAR, TO SEE THEM, TO HAVE
TO HAVE SOMETIMES THEM CONFRONT YOU, KNOWING THAT THEY DID WHAT
THEY DID HAS BEEN QUITE SURREAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE NOT VERY
INTELLIGENT.
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>> Stephen: THANK GOD!
THAT'S THE SAVING GRACE OF THEIR MALSIS HOW INCOMPETENT THEY ARE.
>> UH-HUH.
>> Stephen: NOW, WE ALSO LEARNED ABOUT-- AS YOU SAID,
THERE WAS-- THIS WAS PREMEDITATED IN THAT IT WAS
PRECONSIDERRED THAT THIS WOULD BE A VIOLENT EVENT.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: AND PRESIDENT DID NOT CARE, KNOWING THAT YOU COULD
LET THE PEOPLE WITH THE WEAPONS THROUGH THE MAGNETOMETERS DIDN'T
MATTER TO HIM, BECAUSE HE KNOWS THEY WERE NOT ANGRY WITH HIM,
THEY WERE GOING TO USE THE WEAPONS AGAINST MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS.
SPECIFICALLY, SOME OF THEM WERE LOOKING FOR YOU THAT DAY.
>> . .
>> NOW, DO YOU IMAGINE THAT ANY OF THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING
NAMED AS THESE CONSPIRATORS IN THE WHITE HOUSE-- OR EVEN WITHIN
THE CONGRESS-- DO YOU IMAGINE THERE WILL BE REASONABLE
CONSEQUENCES FOR THEM?
DO YOU IMAGINE THERE IS GOING TO BE ANY JAIL TIME HERE?
>> I WILL SAY, BARE MINIMUM, THOSE WHO SPECIFICALLY SOUGHT
PARDONS FOR THEMSELVES SHOULD BE EXPEL FROM THE UNITED STATES
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, WITHOUT A-- BEYOND A SHADOW OF A
DOUBT.
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>> Stephen: BECAUSE, SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE IN
ASKING-- >> YES, BECAUSE ARE YOU A DULY
ELECTED OFFICIAL AND IN SEEK A PARDON, AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU
ARE CONSCIOUSLY COMMITTING-- YOU ARE ADMITTING TO COMMITTING A
CRIME.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO COMMIT CRIMES IN
ORDER TO ILLEGALLY SEIZE POWER.
AND NO PERSON OF ANY POWER AND OF ANY SEAT OF ANY PARTY SHOULD
BE WILLING TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO UNDERMINE OUR DEMOCRACY.
BUT THAT'S JUST THE BARE MINIMUM.
I DO BELIEVE THAT MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS NEED TO BE
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH
AND TO PROVE TO OURSELVESES AND TO THE WORLD THAT THERE IS RULE
OF LAW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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>> Stephen: NOW, REPRESENTATIVE CHENEY TODAY, AT
THE END, IS KIND OF LIKE A VERY INTERESTING LITTLE CHERRY ON TOP
OF ALL OF THIS, READ INTO THE RECORD SOME TESTIMONY, WITHOUT
NAMING NAMES, TESTIMONY OF WITNESSES THEY'VE ALREADY HAD
THAT SAID THEY RECEIVED PRESSURE FROM PEOPLE WITHIN THE FORMER
ADMINISTRATION THAT A CERTAIN PERSON WAS WATCHING THEIR
TESTIMONY AND KNEW THAT THEY WERE GOING TESTIMONY, AND KNEW
THAT THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, "YOU'RE A GOOD GUY.
I KNOW YOU'RE LOYAL.
YOU'LL DO THE RIGHT THING AND YOU'LL STAND FIRM, WHICH IS
WITNESS TAMPERING.
>> IT IS.
>> Stephen: EVEN AN ATTEMPT TO DO THAT IS A FEDERAL CRIME.
I ONLY LIKE POINTING THAT OUT JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES ME HAPPY
TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT GO TO JAIL FOR THEIR EVIL DEEDS.
BUT DO OU AT ALL-- DOES IT STING AT ALL TO BE GRATEFUL TO
LIZ CHENEY?
>> YOU KNOW...
>> Stephen: BECAUSE IT-- IT BURNS A LITTLE GOING DOWN FOR
ME.
BECAUSE I AM GRATEFUL.
BECAUSE THIS IS HOW POLITICS SHOULD BE.
YOU CAN DISAGREE ON ANY KIND OF POLICY, BUT IN THE END YOU WANT
THERE TO BE A UNITED STATES.
>> YABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.
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AND I-- AGREE, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WHAT IS SO IMPORTANT IS
THAT WE DO LIFT THAT UP, AND THAT THIS IS NOT HAPPENING
BECAUSE AN INDIVIDUAL IS A DEMOCRAT OR AN INDIVIDUAL IS A
REPUBLICAN.
THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE WE ARE U.S. CITIZENS WHO BELIEVE IN--
IN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE INTEGRITY OF OUR LAWS.
AND THERE ARE SOME THUNGZ THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN
POLITICS, AND SOME THINGS SHOULD NOT BE PARTISAN.
AND PROTECTING OUR DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT EVERY
SINGLE ONE OF US, NO MART THE PART, SHOULD BE COMMITTED TO.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, I
WILL ASK THE CONGRESSWOMAN WHAT ACTIONS SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
CONGRESS TAKE IN THE WAKE OF THE SPREME COURT OVERTURNING "ROE."
STICK AROUND.
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