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hey what's going on everybody welcome back to another video and i am super super super
pumped today because i got an exclusive hands-on first thanks to the amazing people
at filmic pro to test out pro res on the iphone 13 pro max by the way sorry if the audio is very loud
ton of construction here in the city my contact over there basically messaged me yesterday while
i was literally arriving at the seattle space needle and was like hey i have something you may
be interested in and i was like really and he was like yeah our engineers found the api or whatever
the coding for prores and so he shot me over a test flight link and i've been playing it with
it for the past 24 hours and i want to show you a ton of sample footage that i've shot with it
and share my thoughts on how it compares to shooting in the regular hevc h.265 codec that
we've all been playing around with for the past handful of years now obviously if you clicked
on this video you pretty much already know what prores is it's basically just the professional
codec that's made by apple that's already in a bunch of different types of professional cameras
everything from ari alexas to blackmagic cameras and other external recorders now the reason that
this is a big deal is because the hevc efficient codecs that we've all been seeing are great
again they're really efficient so they don't take up a ton of space on your device but they still
produce a really good image especially one when you're viewing it back on the phone itself
but the reason to have something like prores is to have a lot higher bit rates which is going
to give you more detailed of an image which is going to make it match better with bigger cameras
like mirrorless cameras potentially cinema cameras i don't know if i'm gonna go that far
just yet now also i don't want to waste a lot of people's time here watching this video so
if you can't tell the difference or you don't care about the difference between this clip
and this clip then you may not care for this feature at all because in to my eyes there is a
huge difference now i don't know what the youtube compression is gonna do to this so if this video
gets like 500 likes i'll release a bunch of this sample footage for download in the description or
in the top pins comment like i've done in the past so you can check out the raw files themselves but
if it doesn't look that different after youtube compression let me tell you there is a huge amount
of detail difference here what i'm noticing is a lot less noise in like those lower light
situations it's definitely dealing with noise better the image is overall just much cleaner
much sharper but again not that like disgusting post-processing sharpness that a lot of like
what i always complain android devices do that just make it extra sharp you could tell they
just take the sharpness slider and just max it out this is just like it is capturing the detail that
the hardware of these lenses is capable of doing now with that being said it is definitely not
all fun and games because there definitely still are some cons to it yesterday i shot a little over
150 clips each of them probably averaging anywhere from 10 to maybe 20 seconds or so and i had files
as big as two and a half gigs and so all of you who were laughing at my one terabyte iphone
uh yeah i pretty much i shot 160 170 gigs for the footage just from my phone which is pretty similar
to b-raw files on my blackmagic pocket 6k pro that i shoot for a youtube video so i can understand a
little bit more why if you don't buy anything higher than the 256 or up storage capacity why
they limit prores to 1080p because the 4k is just very very storage hungry by the way you
can only shoot up to 4k 30. filmic doesn't know if you'll later be able to do 4k 60 if that's just
a current limitation the other downside for now is their cinematographer kit which includes the
log v3 which is really really solid as i've shown off before also isn't working right now they said
they may be able to do it in a future update but for now they just want to get pro res out there
but it is currently shipping in a standard uh picture profile so once you've actually
recorded everything now of course is the time of transferring that footage i don't really know
anyone who edits the footage from their phone they at least do it on an ipad or a computer and so you
really have two ways to transfer the footage as of now and that's going to be wirelessly through
something like airdrop or saving it to the cloud or hardwire is going to be the lightning to usb
now airdrop i had zero luck with just because i'm on hotel wi-fi and so the transfers were just too
slow and so i wanted something a little bit more reliable so i went hardwired and it was pretty
slow obviously as we all know lightning is basically usb 2.0 and this really would have
been perfect time for apple to go usb type c with at least usb 3.0 3.1 type speeds i think this is
going to keep people from using the prores feature because it is such a pain to transfer the footage
it took i'd say about an hour maybe hour and a half to transfer that 160 gigs and i definitely
recommend using the built-in image capture app from the mac that definitely was faster and
more reliable the reason i like using the image capture app more than using the photos app is
because the photos app if something fails it kind of cancels out the entire transfer whereas image
capture basically does it one clip at a time and so even if you have to cancel it your phone needs
to unplug or whatever the case may be you at least save all of the clips that it's already imported
and you can use those and once i got the footage actually transferred to the computer everything
from that point on was a breeze max handled prores extremely well and so editing it inside of davinci
was you know a pleasure just like any other uh footage in prores from another camera and it is
still 10-bit so even doing some color grading applying different luts it's gonna give a very
pleasing look and truly this is the first time filming on a phone where i was looking back at
some of the clips and actually wondered wait did i shoot that sample clip on my black magic or was
this from the iphone now i say most because there are still situations where you get a very obvious
kind of oh this is a phone or a much lower end uh point-and-shoot camera and that's going to be
really low light situations it still gets pretty noisy and that's because you run into the hardware
limitation of just a small sensor smaller lens and smaller overall form factor and then you
still have the dead giveaways which is like the terrible lens flares that we've all been
talking about the past couple weeks and i'm not really sure why that's still a thing but this
isn't prores isn't gonna fix the lens flare issue similar to cinematic mode you kind of just need
to play around with and figure out what situations work best for this because whether it's low light
situations or if you have to use sometimes the ultra wide or the telephoto lens there wasn't
a huge difference between prores and just the regular stock camera app shooting the regular
adobe vision footage but the majority of the time it is totally worth it in my opinion again a lot
of you may not care for any of this and that's totally fine or maybe you just want to shoot very
specific situations in prores i did notice in the photos app they did add a pro res kind of pre-made
album so you can easily find all your prores shot clips okay so i need to interrupt myself a pardon
the mess that is currently 3 a.m the night before this video goes up actually feeling kind of sick
after traveling elevation level changes jet lag all that fun stuff coming back from seattle none
of my gear is unpacked so i'm recording in prores hq on the iphone 13 pro max audio included uh i
just want to add a couple more points since most of this a-roll was filmed a couple days ago when
i first got access to prores and now that i've had it for a couple extra days there's a couple
extra points i want to add into this video storage after just four or five days of taking a bunch of
sample footage yes i recorded more than usual including um a lot of this talking head stuff
so in total i'd say i have maybe about 45 minutes and hours worth of actual prores
hq footage and currently my phone is about to hit 700 gigs of used up storage space so whoa
prores hq is showing upwards of 600 megabits per second for bitrate and that is crazy
much more than i was honestly expecting and so now i'm definitely understanding more so why apple
uh chose to only give 1080p pro res to anyone below 256 gig storage and anyone higher than
that can have 4k because this is not going to be something that even someone like me who loves to
film at the highest level quality possible i'm not going to be able to do for just like filming
everyday clips of my kids or something is going to be for very specific use cases like if i'm trying
to combine clips for youtube videos like this to match other cameras or i need to stylize something
a bit more color it a bit more anything where i can mentally be like yes prores is going to be
useful in this uh scenario but the everyday stuff i'm going to stick to playing around
with cinematic mode or just regular video mode also when i recorded the last a-roll um was their
super like beta build of this and they didn't make any ui changes yet now those changes have been in
effect and when you see the update live for the app it's going to show prores in the top left hand
corner when you're recording in that and rather than kind of showing filmic extreme equals prores
hq now just says the various levels of pro res so you can easily tell which level you're shooting at
and so they've cleaned up the ui to make it make more sense for a final build but yeah i don't
think it's going to come to any surprise that this is going to be for very specific use cases
no one should use this for every single video on their phone because quite honestly even
if you're into like oh i'll just film and then dump things onto external hard drives
man i'm having a heck of a time with that both the usb 2.0 speeds of lightning cables is pretty
slow at best and airdrop i haven't even been able to do that for any of this footage as well since
i save everything to my photos app my icloud photos uploading because i optimize my photos
so that doesn't take up all the space on my phone it's currently trying to upload
450 of the latest clips and photos so not only is it taking forever on prores but it's also holding
up my regular photos and everything to back up to icloud as well so all in all yes prores
is awesome it gives you so much more detail in the shots and if you're shooting something that
needs or you just want to have that greater level of detail 10 out of 10 recommend i can't wait to
see what apple does in the future really hope filmic can add their log v3 to it that would
be an unstoppable mobile filmmaking force of an application but yeah it's not going to be your
everyday user or everyday use case for anybody so really help apple goes usb type c next year but
time will tell like i said this is still in beta huge thanks to the filmic pro team for letting me
have the test flight of their uh very beta build and if you're seeing this video then they should
have released their update by now to the public so i'll leave a top link in the description to
filmic pro if you don't already have it and if you were curious yes this entire video was shot
on the iphone 13 pro max in prores hq and if you ask me it looks pretty darn good the audio is not
straight from the iphone because again this city noise would have been absolutely terrible so my
black magic and the stereo mic is directly below it that's the audio you're hearing but all the
visuals are straight from the iphone and uh yeah this scenario is definitely a good test for this
stereo mic because it's pretty rough out here for audio wise let me know if you have any questions
down in the comments below and i will try to answer them again hopefully news comes out about
when the prores update will come out from apple's end and we'll see if there are any differences
inside of this stock camera app than what filmic has been able to find access to essentially
yeah thanks so much for watching guys see you in the next video
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