and welcome back down hard when you're ready we will continue our conversation
about global warming the consequences there
love in a few minutes but I think a subset of this
is it on one of the largest industries that is producing
the methane and consuming water in the united states right now
is the is the food industry in particular the
meet industry and we also find you know if you if you
watch past the video what Forks Over knives
that you know the the bill clinton henry kissinger diet
I E with a plant-based diet
entirely plant based diet and these people are using this to stop heart
disease actually reverses heart disease
every five years the USDA comes out with a new set of dietary guidelines and
they're working on twenty fifteens right now
and Julie gun lock is quite concerned that they might be
aids suggestion that we should consider a plant-based diet
and which would be a whole lot nicer for the earth and be
that Kate Clancy the who was billed as a food systems consultant
a breeding from the in about a woman's form geceler here
came to the party man explained that the the DGAC the agency that's putting
together these recommendations for food
how he'd must integrate environmental concerns into the guidelines
land kiss called for plant-based diets to contribute to food security
and sustainability i've landed air and water
Julie gun lock with the with the independent women's forum
IWF .org she is the I culture alarmism project director with the IWF in the
author from cupcakes to chemicals
Julie welcome back the program thanks for having me on so
why are you opposed
to the US Department of Agriculture recommending to us that we eat less meat
and that week grow I guess that's a euphemism but
I don't know the proper word to use less meat said what's wrong with that
well work I I think it's really important that people
I consume a lot of vegetables and I think it's important that they switch to
leaner cuts that meets
I agree with him on that but I'm very concerned
about people who live under the poverty level in this country
to struggle every day which could cost I really worry
that they are not going to be able to provide their children you check
nutritious meals that meet
calorie requirements in the bottom line is even
given the DASH diet which this too many actually praises recommends
only meets and does not recommend going to a plant-based diet
simply impossible to provide a child the calories they need from
you know entirely living on not print speeds and beans and vegetables
well for what its for what it's worth I you know not not to
contradict you but I'll my wife and I both in vegetarian since we were 16
years old
we raised all three of our kids as vegetarians on
are are one of our three kids continues to be not just a vegetarian but has been
a beacon for twenty years
and our kids are now 30 35 and 40 and they're all incredibly healthy
well that that's great for and and and it's a lot cheaper to eat that way
particularly if you're poor I don't agree with that i think im
that committee is also recommending going organic
buying locally produced meat grass-fed beef
be are more expensive Thomas I go to the great I actually
just swept the grocery store I'm I don't know where you shop
but I at the grocery store those items organic
local crap that people I'm caught fish these things are more expensive
stamp conventionally produced I milk and dairy and meat and vegetables are
perfectly fine for people we need to be
what I wish that this committee was doing with advising people on
cuts be Francis a leaner meat and what's
cost it's like you are using a ground beef that only at 10 percent
that the our recommendation that people can really usually it takes thousands of
gallons of water to produce a GUI a pound of beef
I mean hand and you know my experience has been that yeah it might be
cost more to eat organic be for lying caught
salmon but whyy either one of them at all it's a lot cheaper TE potatoes and
broccoli and and and parents
open up your but source vegetables do not have a higher protein quality
and if they do know asap and the amino acid only come from from
from actually that science has been completely disproven
I'm put I I know Francis karla pay she wrote me
she wrote you know diet for new plate for it free for a small planet back in
the eighties and it was a big head
and she suggested that you know you beans don't have tyre CNN race doesn't
have tried
I forget the the amino acid and these are essential amino acids in
and but with you combine the two of them then you get a complete you know it
because there's eight or nine amino acids that we don't produce our body
you get all the essential amino acids it was ten years later that EG nasser
published a piece called the amino acid on his days as an aid in the
good canine got loman in which he inserted
a tube into the middle about the dogs small intestine
and discover large intestine and discovered that the intestinal slurry
that was in there
regardless of what you fed the dog always had a balance have all the amino
acids necessary because fifty percent of the contents of the got at any given
time
at least the got beyond the small intestine is the body recycling itself
the liver it die
you know blood cells are dying of it literally millions an hour
and and other cells in the body die and the lining of the stomach and the and
the Spurs large and small intestine replaces of every three days
you are constantly adding your own meet to the food
and so it's impossible to produce an amino acid deficiency there is not a
single case
anywhere in the world in all of human history %uh anybody who had that disease
the Frances lamar Lupe
in her book and she was a writer not a scientist by the way in like I said I
know her she's she's
change your tune on these things are that she'd posited could happen and
amino acid deficiency the only amino acid deficiency legs as
is quite you cora I've seen it I worked with the starving children in Uganda
we took over yeah the new model prison farm during the war with ED I mean I had
twenty thousand people were died 3 entered a dying
they're the big bellies that's a but that was starvation
needed I mean it it my yeah I think critical thing we need to remember here
is that people for very little money can get the nutrients they need
out a beating a small amount Adelina meets
I to I you can also get outta fruits vegetables I know that you say that
you know you want your entire family is that you carry on you clearly make more
than people who live under the poverty level time and sell I have been all my
life Julie 11 the reason I were
want one reason I were first married all we literally saved up all week long
to go church to Taco Bell to get a vegetarian taco which was our treat for
the week
that know that that's really a treat but I I'm I'm telling you that I i just
think that people
I who live under the poverty line are not going to be able to afford
organic milk I mean I cannot afford to get ok not so good for you
I cast for I can't afford organic vegetable and so
chat to suggest to the american public that not only do they meet you
do away with me their diets but then switched chill the startup Whole Foods
type
out %uh eating and shopping isn't third
well I'm suggested organic fruit and vegetables and and grains and nuts and
seeds
are less expensive than even non-organic meats and fish
and they're better for you don't get heart disease you don't get obesity die
I I disagree with you i think that there are some really impressive feat that are
very reasonably priced
but the bottom line is best committee exposed to be making
nutrition recommendations and it is third just
that American should switch aren't you a vegetarian diet unrealistic it's not
going to happen
but what if I really need is killing our planet Julie why don't agree with that
time I don't agree that the meat industry
as is that is turning our planet and you you know the blade runner I think that
that that the meat industry much also forget
that the spirit industries taken bill here %uh calories out of the marketplace
they are providing American the choices Americans can have me
but they can also have a plant-based diet that is because the food industry
insist the choices that not because we have got gardens
or we should what because we are partners we can have a food based diet
act a plant-based diet I can't I can't imagine
I'm a busy mom I don't have time to to grow every
sprint yeah new Droid apt 102 I was there was a that was a
that was a little too clever by half aren't my ball is Julie gone like
Julie year here are a good advocate beer 'cause IWF .org is the website
I she's the author from cupcakes to chemicals and the
culture alarms and project director for The Independent Women's Forum
thanks Julie a family on could talk will be back
this is the Thom Hartmann program
soul if we want to stop the world from collapsing do we start
with a plant-based diet