-Good evening, everybody.
We're coming to you from the swamp, Washington, DC.
And I can tell you we come here rarely.
-Lou Dobbs has a super-fan.
-And you've been talking about the various people on your show,
which I watch absolutely almost all the time.
-His super-fan happens to be the president
of the United States of America.
-But, no, your show is fantastic.
-Who watches his show regularly, listens to him,
and seems to be taking at least some cues from him on policy.
-Tell me who your preference is. -I think I.
May I constrain myself? -Yes.
-Because an ad hoc advisor to the president.
-No, but I'd love to hear it.
You can even cut it out, if you want.
You don't have to. I would love to hear you.
-Where does the Donald Trump-Lou Dobbs relationship begin?
-This is "Lou Dobbs". -We have to go back
to when Lou Dobbs was talking about birtherism.
-President Obama promised transparency and openness
in his administration, yet, he's chosen not to release
his original birth certificate or a copy of it.
-Donald Trump was listening.
When Donald Trump got interested in that topic,
he was using some of the material
that he was picking up from Lou Dobbs.
-I was a really good student at the best school.
I'm like a smart guy, okay?
They make these birthers into the worst idiots.
Why doesn't he show his birth certificate?
-Now, we can fast-forward to the 2016 presidential campaign.
Lou Dobbs is at Fox Business Network.
-Trump appears to be waking the country up on the issue.
-Who is up on the screen in Trump Force One?
Lou Dobbs.
Trump is listening to him during the campaign.
People who we've spoken to, who were on the plane,
talk about Trump saying, "Hold on a second.
I wanna hear what Lou is saying".
-The entire Border Patrol of this country
is standing helpless at the border.
-No, no. -On Lou Dobbs's program,
on a typical night,
you may be hearing a lot about immigration.
-The majority of all those drugs crossing that border
from Mexico to the United States.
There is sex trafficking and smuggling
of hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants.
Without borders, we have no country.
-When he is talking, particularly about the border,
Donald Trump is listening.
-The way forward here is for him to declare a national emergency.
-Lou Dobbs very much wanted to have a national emergency
declared to pay for building a wall.
-President needs to find a way forward here
where he can deliver on this promise.
-He talked about it on his show a lot.
Donald Trump eventually declared a national emergency.
-Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is flailing.
-Another key example is the situation
involving the Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.
He was disappointed with how she was handling her job.
She wasn't tough enough for him.
-Kirstjen Nielsen, in my opinion,
she is utterly unqualified for the job.
-He began calling for her to be fired.
Within weeks of him doing that, she resigned from office.
-Kevin, good to have you with us.
-It's great to be back.
-And congratulations. -Something else that we've seen:
Donald Trump and Lou Dobbs are talking off-air.
They're having phone calls with each other.
-We were just in there briefin' him
on these numbers earlier in the week
and he picked up the phone and called you.
-Some of the associates of both of these men have told us
that there are periods when they talk every single day.
And we've also learned that, at times, Donald Trump
will phone Lou Dobbs in the middle of a meeting
and place Lou Dobbs on the speakerphone.
-I'm so proud that I have been
able to convince people how fake it is
because it has taken a nose dive.
-Yeah.
-Except for your show, of course.
And Sean and a few of 'em, right, huh?
-You got it. -Trump's love of Fox
and many of the Fox personalities is well-known.
-I don't wanna be treated good. I just wanna be treated fairly.
-What seems to be different
about the Lou Dobbs-Donald Trump relationship,
according to people who we've spoken to,
including Steve Bannon,
who worked in both the campaign and in the White House,
is that this seems to be a relationship
based less on the personal and more on policy.
-President Trump has done more than any president
in modern history.
-We're seeing a completely new paradigm,
a new kind of relationship between a person on television
and a person who is president,
but also happened to be a reality television star.
-And appreciate everything you're doing.
Thanks so much. -We're getting it done.
I will promise you we're getting it done and it's happened.
A lot has already.