>>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
I'M MEGYN KELLY.
HOPE YOU HAD A GREAT WEEKEND.
MAYBE YOU WENT APPLE PICKING OR
TO -- OR MAYBE HARASSED A BUNCH
OF POLITICIANS IN A RESTAURANT.
THAT'S THE LATEST AND GREATEST
CRAZE.
THAT'S MAKING THE ROUNDS TODAY.
HERE TO DISCUSS IT, STEPHANIE
GOSK, LEGAL ANALYST, DAN
GOLDMAN, AND INVESTIGATIVE
REPORTER, MEGAN TWOHEY.
WE BEGIN WITH THE LATEST IN A
DISTURBING PATTERN OF HARASSMENT
AND OBNOXIOUS BEHAVIOR THAT TOOK
PLACE THIS WEEKEND.
POLITICIANS GETTING BERATED AND
RIDICULED.
ONE WAS IN A RESTAURANT, WHERE
MITCH McCONNELL WAS TRYING TO
EAT DINNER WITH HIS WIFE, WHO IS
TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY ELAINE
CHAO.
>> WHY DON'T YOU GET OUT OF
HERE?
>> LEAVE IT ALONE.
>> HEY.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO COME FOR
SOCIAL SECURITY.
>> I'M GOING TO SELL IT TO TMZ.
HE THREW THE LEFTOVERS AT THEM?
>> THAT'S CLASSIC, WITH THE TMZ
IMPRINT ON THE FILM.
AND THE MAN WHO HAD BEEN
BOTHERING SENATOR McCONNELL
REPORTEDLY SLAMMED HIS HANDS
WITH HIS FIST WHERE'S THEY WERE
EATING DINNER.
AND YOU CAN SEE RESTAURANTGOERS
PUSHING BACK ON IT.
AND PEOPLE TRACKED DOWN NANCY
PELOSI, CURSING AT HER, OUTSIDE
A CAMPAIGN EVENT.
WATCH.
>> NANCY PELOSI RIGHT HERE.
LOOK AT THIS [ BLEEP ] RIGHT
HERE.
LOOK AT THIS [ BLEEP ], PELOSI,
RIGHT HERE.
YOU DON'T BELONG HERE YOU
COMMUNIST.
THAT'S A [ BLEEP ] HERE.
GET [ BLEEP ] OUT OF HERE.
[ BLEEP ].
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[ BLEEP ].
>> LOVELY.
LOVELY.
AND FAR-RIGHT OR ALT-RIGHT
GROUP.
I WON'T SAY THEIR NAME TO GET
SUPPORT FOR THEIR GROUP.
TO ME, IT'S ANOTHER SIGN OF THE
DETIERATION OF OUR SOCIETY.
WHAT HAPPENS ON TWITTER DOESN'T
STAY ON TWITTER.
IT COMES AND IT FINDS YOU WHERE
YOU EAT AND WHERE YOU LIVE AND
WHERE YOU DINE WITH YOUR FAMILY.
TO ME, I FIND THIS SO BEYOND THE
PALE.
LET ME START WITH YOU, DAN.
IS THERE ANYTHING UNLAWFUL?
DOES IT CROSS OVER TO HARASSMENT
THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE
ACTIONABLE?
>> ONLY IF THERE'S PHYSICAL
CONFRONTATION.
ARE WOULD POTENTIALLY ARISE TO
ASSAULT.
THIS IS AN EXTREME VERSION OF
THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THE
RIGHT TO PROTEST.
IT IS SAD THAT IT HAS COME TO
THIS.
AND I THINK IT'S A REFLECTION OF
THE INCREDIBLY DIVISIVE
ATMOSPHERE POLITICALLY AND
OTHERWISE, THAT WE LIVE IN RIGHT
NOW.
YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO FOSTERS
A LOT OF THIS DIVISION AND WHO
OPERATES -- HIS MODUS OPERANDI
IS ON DIVIDING AND CREATING AN
US VERSUS THEM MENTALITY.
AND IT'S NOW PLAYING OUT IN THE
PUBLIC SPHERE IN UGLY WAYS.
>> THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT
TRUMP ENJOYS FOSTERING DIVISION.
HE DOES.
BUT I WILL SAY, THIS HAS BEEN
HAPPENING PRIOR TO TRUMP.
I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY BACK IN
THE FINANCIAL CRISIS, IN
'08-'09, WHERE PEOPLE WERE
SHOWING UP ON THE FRONT LAWNS OF
SOME OF THE BANK EXECUTIVES.
THERE WAS ONE CASE -- I REMEMBER
NINA EASTON CALLED ATTENTION TO
IT.
THERE WAS A 9-YEAR-OLD OR
11-YEAR-OLD BOY WAS AT HOME
WHILE THIS ANGRY MOB WAS OUT
FRONT SCREAMING ABOUT THE DAD'S
ACTIONS AT SOME BANK.
IT WAS LIKE, COME ON.
THERE'S A TIME AND A PLACE.
>> THERE IS.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SENATOR
McCONNELL THING FOR JUST A
BEYOND THE INCIVILITY OF IT,
WHAT IS THE POINT?
AND IT'S TOUGH TO TELL IF THAT
WAS AN ORGANIZED MOMENT OR NOT.
BUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE PRODUCED
FROM THAT MOMENT?
DO YOU ANY SENATOR McCONNELL IS
GOING TO GO BACK AND SAY, WOW,
THE GUYS IN THE HAVANA RUMBA
WERE REALLY NASTY TO ME.
I THINK I'M GOING TO GO EASY ON
THE DEMES.
OR SOME KID AT UNIVERSITY OF
LOUI
LOUISVILLE, FRESHMAN YEAR, IS
GOING TO SAY, LOOK WHAT THEY DID
TO SENATOR McCONNELL, I'M GOING
TO REGISTER TO VOTE.
NO.
>> I WOULD TAKE THAT ONE STEP
FURTHER.
AS A REPORTER IN WASHINGTON
DURING THE KAVANAUGH HEARINGS
AND THE CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD
SYSTEM AND WHAT FOLLOWED.
THOSE PROTESTERS WHO WERE
GETTING NASTY IN THE FACES OF
MEMBERS OF THE SENATE WHO WERE
GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A VOTE ON
KAVANAUGH, I THINK THOUGHT THEY
WERE ADVANCING THEIR CAUSE.
AND IN THE END, THEY ACTUALLY
DID DAMAGE TO THEIR CAUSE, THAT
THEY REALLY UNDERMINED IT.
TO SEE -- AND McCONNELL TALKED
ABOUT THAT.
AND LINDSEY GRAHAM TALKED ABOUT
THAT.
IT BACKFIRED.
EVEN FROM PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE,
THEY SHOULD BE STEPPING BACK AND
SAYING, IS THIS TECHNIQUE
HELPING US?
>> THERE WAS ONE, BILL CASSIDY,
SENATOR, GOT HARASSED IN THE
OFFICE BUILDING, BY A WOMAN.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I OBJECT
TO IN THIS PARTICULAR -- THAT'S
THE OFFICE PLACE.
BUT SHE HAD HER TWO YOUNG
CHILDREN WITH HER.
THEY'RE REALLY YOUNG.
WATCH.
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED.
>> SENATOR CASSIDY, CAN YOU
APOLOGIZE TO MY CHILDREN FOR
RUINING THEIR FUTURES?
SHAME ON YOU FOR NOT BELIEVING
WOMEN AND FOR RUINING MY
DAUGHTERS' LIVES.
>> WE DIDN'T SHOW THE TWO KIDS.
BUT SHE HAS TWO, YOUNG KIDS WITH
HER, IN FRONT OF WHOM SHE IS
YELLING, YOU RUINED THEIR LIVES
AND YOU RUINED THEIR FUTURES.
LOOK, FOR ME, I'M NOT A
POLITICALLY ACTIVE PERSON.
I'M NOT A POLITICAL PERSON AND I
BELIEVE IN TEACHING KIDS THE
VALUE OF PROTEST AND THE VALUE
OF BEING AN AMERICAN AND ALL OF
OUR RIGHTS, BUT THAT'S WRONG.
THAT'S JUST WRONG.
YOU DON'T DO THAT.
YOU'RE TEACHING THEM A DIFFERENT
LESSON.
>> JUST A TOUCH OF HYPERBOLE
THERE.
OBVIOUSLY.
>> KIDS DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT,
RIGHT?
THE KIDS ARE SITTING THERE LIKE,
OH, MY GOD.
WHAT DID HE DO TO ME?
>> THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE,
I THINK, THERE'S A REASON THESE
VIDEOS GO VIRAL.
THE INCIVILITY FOR TODAY MAKES
FOR GOOD HEADLINES AND GENERATES
STRONG RESPONSE BY VIEWERS.
BUT I'M SO HUNGRY AS SOMEBODY
WHO HAS BECOME SO UPSET BY THIS,
TO SEE EXAMPLES.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE MEDIA
COULD PRODUCE EXAMPLES OF
CIVILITY, WHERE PEOPLE OF
DIFFERING POLITICAL VIEWS ARE
COMING TOGETHER AND HAVING CIVIL
INTERACTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF
THOSE.
>> THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
>> I KNOW.
>> WE DO HIGHLIGHT THOSE.
I THINK WHEN THOSE GRACIOUS
MOMENTS HAPPEN, YOU DO SEE THEM.
IT'S THE MOMENT WHERE THE CHILD
RAISES MONEY FOR A SICK KID NEXT
DOOR.
I MEAN, WE DO --
>> POLITICALLY, IT'S TOUGH TO
FIND.
THE MOST FAMOUS ONE WOULD BE
JOHN McCAIN SHUTTING DOWN THE
WOMAN WHO SAID OBAMA'S A MUSLIM.
I'M SURE THERE'S OTHERS.
NOTHING IS COMING TO FIND OF
SOMEBODY IN A BIG MOMENT
STANDING UP FOR CIVILITY AND
WHAT'S RIGHT.
>> THERE'S NO TOWN HALLS
ANYMORE, IT APPEARS.
THERE'S FEW POLITICIANS WHO GO
HOME DURING THE RECESSES AND
HAVE TOWN HALLS.
THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID OPENING
THEMSELVES UP TO THIS.
MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS.
THE OBVIOUS WAY TO DEAL WITH
THIS IS TO VOTE IN TWO WEEKS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT'S HOW YOU EXPRESS YOUR
OPINION.
>> THAT'S YOUR LOUDEST VOICE.
I HAVE TO SWITCH TOPICS WITH YOU
BECAUSE FROM THAT WHOLE DISASTER
INSIDE WASHINGTON, TO THAT OLD
DISASTER THAT HAPPENED IN 1912,
THE "TITANIC."
HAVE YOU HEARD THEY ARE
RE-CREATING THE SHIP?
THE "TITANIC."
IT'S GOING TO SET SAIL IN 2022,
110 YEARS AFTER THE ORIGINAL
"TITANIC" AND GO ALONG THE EXACT
SAME ORIGINAL ROUTE.
AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU
WOULD GO ON IT.
NO?
>> LEONARDO DiCAPRIO WILL NOT BE
THERE.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO PACK A SLAB
OF WOOD.
>> BRING A RAFT.
>> I WOULD IMAGINE THIS ONE
WOULD HAVE ENOUGH LIFEBOATS.
THAT WOULD BE TRULY NEGLIGENT IF
THEY DIDN'T.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, WHO WILL DO
IT?
WILL THEY DRESS LIKE THE
OLD-TIME 1912 VERSION OF THE
FOLKS ONBOARD?
>> OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL DO IT.
>> I WOULD DO IT.
I THINK PEOPLE WOULD SPEND A LOT
OF MONEY TO DO IT.
I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T GO ON ANY
CRUISE SHIP, LET ALONE ONE THAT
LOOKED LIKE THE "TITANIC."
>> REALLY?
>> I DON'T LIKE CRUISE SHIPS.
THE BOAT JUST MOVES AROUND.
>> IT TAKES YOU PLACES.
>> I NEED TO BE ON LAND.
I NEED TO BE ON MY OWN TWO FEET.
BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND PEOPLE
WANTING TO GO ON THE "TITANIC."
>> THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF
BILLIONAIRE BET PROJECTS AND HOW
FASCINATING THEY ARE.
THIS IS A PARTICULAR BILLIONAIRE
WHO THIS HAS BEEN HIS PET
PROJECT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND IT'S SUFFERED SETBACKS.
IT'S JUST A REMINDER OF, WOW.
THE INTERESTING THING THAT RICH
PEOPLE DO WITH THEIR MONEY.
>> WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?
>> INTERESTING IS ONE WAY TO PUT
IT.
>> TELLING THE TEAM BACKSTAGE,
MY HUSBAND'S DAD, WHO PASSED,
BUT HE WAS A SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN.
AND WHEN OUR 8-YEAR-OLD WAS A
BABY, HE WAS BOUNCING HIM ON HIS
KNEE.
AND HE USED TO SING HIM FOLK
SOLE
SONGS AND YOU HAVE ONE EAR OPEN.
AND WHAT IS THE SONG HE IS
SINGING?
AND HERE'S A CHOICE VERSE.
♪ THEY BUILT THE SHIP "TITANIC"
WHEN ITS HULL TORE ♪
♪ THE RICH REFUSED TO ASSOCIATE
WITH THE POOR ♪
♪ THEY PUT THEM DOWN BELOW, SO
THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST TO GO ♪
♪ IT WAS SAD WHEN THAT GREAT
SHIP WENT DOWN ♪
THIS IS A REAL SONG.
WHAT?