- [Woman On Phone] Hello? - Hey.
- [Woman On Phone] How are you?
- I'm really well. How are you?
- [Woman On Phone] I'm trying not to freak out.
- [Gary] (laughs) That's a good strategy.
We don't want to spend our
entire 60 Second Club on the freak out.
- No, no, not at all.
- [Gary] Very cool so what do you want to do in our time here?
- I actually wanted to know, I know that in a couple of your
Snaps you said you have a family and I know you don't show your
kids on Snap and stuff like that.
But I'm just curious on how you balance it all.
I kind of do a couple different things and for a while there
I kind of felt like I had
everything at least up in the air.
And then it kind of all came down and now just trying to get
everything spinning again.
I just feel like I was doing good on one then I'm failing at
another and I just want to know how you balance it all.
- [Gary] I think I balance it all by
not judging myself too harshly.
I think that's really where it starts and stops.
I think way too many people have lost the work-life balance
before it's even started because they're gonna be critical on
themselves regardless of it.
Right, it's so hard to balance and so for me I just know
I'm doing the best that I can and if I'm doing the best that
I can that in itself has put me in a position to succeed.
And some days that means that I have to choose my family time
on a Friday night or Sunday morning,
an executive ran into me on Saturday and asked me to meet
for coffee and wanted to jam and I just couldn't.
I couldn't because of the family time, right?
And so that's the family being chosen.
Other times I'm flying and speaking somewhere or having a
big meeting and I'm missing you know some sort of like school
function that I didn't want to miss and that's the other way
and the truth is I just don't beat myself up.
All of us are trying the best we can and so as long as nothing is
glaring and to me glaring is the following: my kids have become
completely horrible people and have major problems in society
and/or I go directly out of business in my businesses.
As long as neither one of those
are happening I think it's gonna be okay.
And so I think it's how you judge how you're balancing way
more than the reality of it and recognizing that you have a
different point of view on it then your partner,
then the kids, then your business associates and I think
you need to care about your point of view on it first and
foremost while being empathetic
to everybody else's points of view.
- [Woman On Phone] Awesome. (laughs)
That's a really good answer.
I know that, yeah, it's hard to try and not judge what you're
doing and stuff like that.
- That's the game, right?
That's, like, everybody could be failing at work-life balance if
they've decided that they're failing at work-life balance.
- [Woman On Phone] Okay.
- So, as long as you know you're not,
as long as your spouse or your partner isn't saying I want to
break up or get a divorce and as long as your kids aren't eating
pine tar and as long as your banks aren't coming to foreclose
your business, you're gonna be okay.
You know and I think people are freaking out like I didn't even
see my dad until I was 15 and
I love him and we have the best relationship.
There're people who've had their fathers walk out of their family
and they didn't see them for 15 years and now they've great
relationships because they've reconciled.
People are way too judgmental and overanalyzing
work-life balance in today's modern PR society.
- [Woman On Phone] Mhmmm.
- And so, if you feel good about it then you'll win and I think
not judging yourself too harshly because it is hard to balance
everything 'cause that's life and
I just, I don't aim for perfect.
I'm not interested in perfect, it's not real.
Perfect is fake and so I just live.
- [Woman On Phone] That's awesome.
Thank you. (laughs) - You're welcome.
It feels better, right?
It feels better to look at it that way.
- [Woman On Phone] Yeah, I said it's hard and with little
kids and stuff, you know it's like Mommy's not here,
Daddy's not here and that's kind of all they see.
You know as much as they're
involved it's just kind of hard some days.
- They're tougher tougher than you think.
How old are they?
- [Woman On Phone] Three and eight.
- Three and eight,
tell me anything you remember being three. Go.
- [Woman On Phone] Not much. (laughs)
- Interesting.
- [Woman On Phone] Just being in a hospital.
- Right. And you know what?
As long as you're counter balancing it with love and one
of the biggest things, all these parents judging people meanwhile
they're around 'cause they work 9 to 5 but if they're not
deploying love and are in it from 5 to 9 every night and on
the weekend what are they really accomplishing?
Just 'cause you're there doesn't mean you're there.
- [Woman On Phone] Right.
When you do have your family, like you said,
when you have your family time you just kind of say that's
family time and that's kind of non-negotiable.
That might be different times but...
- Yes and sometimes, most the time it works out but sometimes
it doesn't, right?
Sometimes I can get distracted and I'm just not willing to beat
myself up if I decided to go down a rabbit hole for an hour
on a Sunday when I should've been all in on the family.
That's just gonna happen.
I just-- - [Woman On Phone] Right.
- This is about not beating yourself up and knowing where
your intent and your efforts are
and also knowing life's a long game.
So in two, three years when I'm taking my kids on business trips
and traveling with them and showing them the world like
that's where the benefits
have come from some of the sacrifices.
I don't know, I think everybody, you know,
if they had the option of would you rather have had your parents
around every minute from 1 to 5 but not be able to do all these
amazing experiences with them from 11 to 18 versus the
alternative, I just have a funny feeling all this will raise our
hand and say I'll take that 11 to 18 shit and I plan on
dominating that and some of the sacrifices I have to create
between 1 to 8 is something I'm willing to do and that's my
strategy and I don't give a fuck if some parenting blogger says
that I'm not spending enough time with them.
Fuck you.
- [Woman On Phone] (laughs) Thank you.
- Let me judge you from afar.
Do you know what I mean? - [Woman On Phone] Yeah.
Yeah, there's too many people out there doing that.
I love your attitude and I love your message and
I started following you a couple months ago,
I love, I wait for your content every day.
In fact, there's some days that I know like,
I know that sometimes if someone's like,
"I don't have time," and this and that you're like,
"I'm gonna go audit their social media."
And I'm like maybe I can piss
him off (Gary laughs) my social media.
(laughs) - I love it.
- [Woman On Phone] The good and bad I'm doing at this point but
I really appreciate you taking the time.
In fact, I was running from my daughter's dance lesson with her
yesterday as I'm commenting on your post and hash tagging and
I got home and I was like, "I get to talk to GaryVee!"
And my husband's like, "I don't know what that means."
- (laughs) He's like, "What's that all about?"
Listen, honestly, and thank you.
Right now, I'm feeling really good in my stomach because
I knew why I wanted to do this 60 Seconds,
you know, I figured out my health by tricking myself into a
system where I was accountable to somebody else, I knew that
I wanted to do something more for my community even though
that I feel like I'm at the top of my game,
I wanted to be better than my best self and I needed to trick
myself into a game that made me bring more.
And at this moment, right now, I'm super,
I've never been happier about this 60 Second.
You know, the 60 Second Club is fun 'cause it's fun to see how
many comments and you get in this and it's crazy and that's
all fun but this chat made it better.
- [Woman On Phone] Well, thank you very much.
I appreciate you taking time.
- Take care.
Bye-bye. - [Woman On Phone] Bye.
- That was fun.
- [Tyler] That was good. You want to go?
- 60 Second Club.
Got to trick yourself.
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