"I don't know if you have some news of Don Wilson, he seems very silent,
tell him, tell him I'm not going to put the makeup on, maybe he gets so
scared with Tong Po he thinks... tell him that's just makeup please tell him please".
The greatest sport kickboxer of all time Don "The Dragon" Wilson, you yourself was called out by
the greatest movie kickboxer of all time Tong Po AKA Mohammed Qissi, What are your thoughts?
[Music]
"Don the dragon, it's just a movie Kickboxer, don't be scared,
you're just going to be with Mohammad, with this his nice smile in the ring so don't you worry".
My thoughts, it would be a great thing, it's a great show, you know I really think it would be,
people would like to see it. They're doing these exhibition bouts now,
that's what they call them exhibitions uh now look I've done just sparring in the gym
sometimes things get out of control and you know and and they turn into uh competitive events and
I expect something like this is a thing where uh Mohammed would not want to look bad, and I'm not
going to make him look bad in any way and and I'm not trying to hurt him, of course I don't,
I've never tried to hurt any of my opponents, hurt in a permanent way. You know it's just a
sport and just to spar on an exhibition you up the level of your intensity as necessary basically.
So if he wants to go, you know all out, we'll go all out and whatever happens happens. You know
it is safe because they have a qualified referee who who knows to stop the fights,
you know when somebody can't defend themselves intelligently is the way the term is. If you are
not intelligently defending yourself they stop it and that's not even just in an exhibition,
that's in professional fights, so this will be a safe thing and I'm sure some,
you know athletic commissions will will sanction it and uh yeah we'll have a great time.
"The audience will get to see something it's a major event I love the idea". (Matthias Hues).
Because he's saying he needs to test me right? Yeah, he needs to test you. If I
go in the ring let's say I spar with Don Wilson I can give you a better result.
See I'm saying, if I go with him I'll know, because I went with Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Obviously he can't just watch my fights and make a judgment of what kind of quality fighter I am
now. It seems like for 28 years judges can decide on the quality of my fights and would give me,
I got 72 wins 48 Knockouts. Again Jean-Claude is at another level, means Fighters know Fighters
Don Wilson will not last one round. Look what he's saying is ridiculous,
well I mean he's doing the Frank Dux thing, if you say something so ridiculous there's an odd
dynamic where people think well you know Don if he doesn't think Don could last one round,
Wilson will not last one round. Don will not last one round. Well, what is he saying
about Maurice Smith? Because Maurice Smith didn't just go 1 round, we went 11 rounds
and I won a decision. And James Warring IBF boxing
champion WKA kickboxing champion, I went 11 rounds with him and won. Dennis Alexio,
world ISKA world heavyweight champion I went 12 rounds with him. "Don Wilson definitely wanted the
fight by showing his strategic abilities and his desire to maintain his title".
Don let's go back to Mohammad what do you know about his actual background as a fighter? I know
he's a boxer. Okay. Because reading, reading, I've never seen him do anything, but I I know he was a
boxer. He's got over 30 Knockouts as an amateur Don over 30 Knockouts as an amateur boxer, so
he's he's got some power in those hands. Yeah, I guess 30 Knockouts against amateur boxers,
yeah that's better than not having it but you know what I mean. You gotta realize, the very
first Boxer I ever boxed was rated eight in the world professionally, first time I ever boxed the
guy and we were, we were dead even, we were dead even you know maybe he got the better of me if you
count points but that's the first Boxer I ever boxed, I never boxed before. I went to a boxing
gym and usually everybody knows I'm a kickboxer so they put in whoever they think is the the guy
that's gonna dominate me, because they don't know me and and listen, I'm not saying I beat the guy,
I didn't beat the guy you know he would have out pointed me and whatever because it was the first
time I ever boxed. I was doing back fists, ridge hands, you know reverse punches, he was throwing,
he was boxing but um but I trained with world champion, many world champion boxers. Mohammed's
boxing background is still to me, it's beginner level. You know yeah the other thing I will say,
one cool thing Don one cool thing real quick, he's got a really amazing compliment from none other
than Muhammad Ali, who told him he he fights like me, he moves like me so Qissi's really good at
dancing, moving so he's very elusive he's hard to hit. He's sparred with Ali. Man sparred with Ali,
he's lucky to have sparred with Muhammad Ali yeah that'd be a great honor for sure I'll admit as a
fighter I wish I could mess around with Ali and um guys listen I'm not saying anything bad about it,
I don't bad mouth my opponents. I just fought real competition though I mean you listen to me,
you said Don he fought Maurice Smith, knocked him out he fought uh Dennis Alexio knocked him
out. He did more than that in the movie Kickboxer he paralyzed Dennis Alexio.
[Applause] Look okay here's what we're doing we're taking like
Sylvester Stallone and comparing him to Mike Tyson. Rocky's got a chance. And I'll let you
guess which one is Mike Tyson, I mean Michel Qissi plays a great fighter in the movies, looks great,
he looks intimidating, that's what you're supposed to do in movies you're supposed to look like the
part. Sure. But the sport of kickboxing, when you do it for 28 years, I've forgotten more about
kickboxing than Michel Qissi ever learned. [Music] You know what I mean I mean there is a um a real
mass of knowledge that I have from getting in the ring, figuring out my opponent's game plan,
his distancing, the timing his speed my speed what he's open for, what he's not, setting him
up over a couple of rounds, there is a science to fighting any any pro world champion kickboxer will
tell you that or MMA guy there's a science to it. Yes, if you do a choreographed fight in a movie,
there's a science to that, you got to have your body in a certain position, the camera angle's
got to be a certain way, it's got to be edited just right, but the two don't mix. Yeah. I have
people come up to me and say Don, I saw that move you made in that one fight you did on that
movie and I've been practicing it so I could use it, and I tell him I said don't do anything that
you see me doing in movies, it's all fake stuff, it's all it's not real self-defense techniques,
it's a movie. We're literally throwing techniques that we think might look good from the camera
angle or that fits the story of the fight for the movie. It's not the same, so what he did is fine,
you know and he did it great right? You couldn't be a better bad guy that the bad guy in Bloodsport
for God's sakes I mean you know. Kickboxer. Excuse me, Kickboxer. And you gotta realize since they
are friends I mean he's gonna show some loyalty to Van Damme. I mean I hope he will not take that bad
because I have to talk to the people honestly, I have to be honest. It would be kind of sad if
he came out and said the truth and just said, hey look Jean-Claude's an actor, Don's a real figher,
I mean you know, you can't take world champion Pro Fighters and put them against actors
Ladies and gentlemen, Tong Po.
Well, that's what we're about to do in this upcoming event we're about to try that. No no no,
listen, he's got some background, it's like Mayweather was a great champion at like 142 pounds
or whatever and he went, I don't know how many, they went 10, 11 rounds or something, no, nine
rounds with um they called him a YouTuber but that guy's big, much bigger than me, stronger than me,
younger than me, uh Logan Paul, yeah Logan Paul, that guy's big. I saw him in the gym and he's
strong and look, Mayweather's in his 40s, it's not training like a real fighter anymore, I mean in
other words there's reasons and it's entertaining, it was interesting to watch right? Yeah.
And that's what's going to happen with me and Mohammed Qissi. I'm not looking at it
like he's some great kickboxer that I might have trouble to overcome in a 12 round fight,
in a world title fight, no of course not, who's he ever beat? Nobody. Yeah you're definitely not
the Underdog in this one Don. If you said Don, he fought Marvin Hagler, knocked him out the
third round Marvin was 28 years old he was in his prime, he knocked out Marvin Hagler, believe me,
I'd be impressed. And I'm saying if you named one win then, you tell me he's got 30 wins,
30 Knockouts in the amateurs, who are they? Who are the the fighters? You're
only as good as the guys you beat. And like I told you, go through my record and you
look at the guy's I beat, that's my record. Have you ever met Qissi by the way? Yes, I
met Qissi and matter of fact, I immediately and I don't remember when, but immediately I asked him,
I said hey, I did an exhibition match once and Chuck Norris was there sitting with Van Damme
and when Van Damme saw me get in the ring he got up and walked out of the auditorium and I
said why would he do something like that? And Mohammed Qissi said, this is what he told me,
he said Jean-Claude Van Damme thinks everybody else thinks like him, and he said if he was
you Don, if he was a real kickboxing champion, he would have challenged the actor sitting there, he
was afraid I was going to challenge him in front of the audience. Oh okay. And so
he got up and he just left. Now I would never have done that but that first of all it's we,
me and Benny "The Jet" Urquidez, Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, are what they call the classic guys. We
come from traditional martial arts, we don't insult each other. I would never have insulted
Van Damme. And look, I was not there for any big money fight, it was an exhibition, but I told you
he is so ignorant he's like Frank Dux in that regard. They don't know kickboxing my history
Mohammed Qissi doesn't know it, he says the only problem is I get hit too much. He said,
the trouble with my style is I get hit too much. No, I think I told you the best thing I have,
the best thing about my fighting style is my defense. Yeah, it's not my offense,
but he doesn't even know that, he doesn't know my background enough to know that I fought the
best fighters at four different way divisions for 28 years all over the world under 4 sets of rules
and in their hometowns and I was still a dominant world champion for that many years. And he tells
us to look at Van Damme's muscles. It's not a bodybuilding contest, if I get hit by a bicep
you'll see me start doing curls but biceps don't jump up hit me on the jaw you know what I mean.
We can go talk back and forth but the best is the ring.