>>> SHE’S LOOKING AT HERSELF ON TELEVISION RIGHT NOW.
HOW ARE YOU FEELING?
CAN YOU PUT IT INTO WORDS?
>> NOPE.
>> NOPE. >> I LOVE THAT ANSWER.
THAT WAS OUR NEXT GUEST LAST
NIGHT AFTER HER BIG ELECTION
VICTORY IN NEW YORK’S 14th
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. JOINING US HERE ON SET,
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ.
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ. ALSO AT THE TABLE, NATIONAL
POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT FOR NBC
NEWS AND MSNBC, STEVE KORNACKI.
HE IS THE AUTHOR OF THE
FORTHCOMING BOOK, "THE RED AND
THE BLUE, THE 1990s AND THE
BIRTH OF POLITICAL TRIBALISM."
IT IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD TO
HAVE YOU BOTH ONBOARD.
CONGRATULATIONS.
CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU!
THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH.
>> HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE
IT ALL IN AND HOW ARE YOU
FEELING?
FEELING? >> YOU KNOW?
IT FEELS GREAT.
IT FELT GREAT EVEN BEFORE THE
RESULTS CAME IN, WALKING AROUND
THE COMMUNITY SEEING HOW MANY
PEOPLE WERE EXCITED TO VOTE
YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY. IT WAS INCREDIBLE.
I THINK WE’RE KIND OF STILL
PROCESSING WITH THE REST OF THE
NATION RIGHT NOW.
>> I BET.
>> I BET. SO WHAT WAS YOUR CAMPAIGN
FOCUSED ON?
FOCUSED ON? WHAT DO YOU THINK REALLY TURNED
OUT THE VOTE AND THEY DID TURN
OUT?
OUT? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. I MEAN OUR CAMPAIGN WAS FOCUSED
ON JUST A LASER FOCUSED MESSAGE
OF ECONOMIC, SOCIAL AND RACIAL
DIGNITY FOR WORKING CLASS
AMERICANS, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN
QUEENS AND THE BRONX.
WE’RE VERY CLEAR ABOUT OUR
MESSAGE, VERY CLEAR ABOUT OUR
PRIORITIES AND VERY CLEAR ABOUT
THE FACT THAT EVEN IF YOU’VE
NEVER VOTED BEFORE, WE ARE
TALKING TO YOU.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY. SO THAT’S THE CLEAREST MESSAGE
I’VE HEARD FROM A DEMOCRAT IN A
LONG TIME.
LONG TIME. JOE, JUMP IN.
ANY ADVICE?
ANY ADVICE? YOU RAN FOR CONGRESS.
>> WELL, I CAN’T GIVE ANY
ADVICE.
ADVICE. I THINK SHE SHOULD BE GIVING
ADVICE.
ADVICE. YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS -- PEOPLE
WOULD ALWAYS COME TO ME AND ASK
HOW I WON WHEN I WASN’T SUPPOSED
TO WIN.
TO WIN. I’M JUST CURIOUS, I MEAN MY
ANSWER ALWAYS WAS HARD WORK.
I WOULD GUESS THAT’S PROBABLY
YOUR ANSWER, AS WELL?
THAT IT WAS KNOCKING ON DOORS,
WALKING THE DISTRICT, DOING ALL
THE LITTLE THINGS OVER TIME THAT
ADDED UP.
ADDED UP. RIGHT?
RIGHT? >> IS THAT WHAT IT TOOK?
HE’S ASK SOMETHING YOU.
WAS IT HARD WORK OR WHAT WAS IT
THAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE?
>> YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DID TAKE
HARD WORK.
HARD WORK. I STARTED THIS RACE NINE, TEN
MONTHS AGO.
MONTHS AGO. I WAS WORKING IN EDUCATION AND I
WAS WORKING IN A RESTAURANT AND
I STARTED THIS RACE OUT OF A
PAPER BAG.
PAPER BAG. YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW? I HAD FLYERS AND CLIPBOARDS.
IT REALLY WAS JUST NON-STOP
KNOCKING DOORS.
KNOCKING DOORS. >> WHY?
>> WHY? WHY DID YOU RUN?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WELL, I THINK THE BIG THING
IS JUST THAT I KNEW IN OUR
COMMUNITY WE NEEDED A VERY CLEAR
VOICE.
VOICE. I THINK WE DESERVE
REPRESENTATION THAT REJECTED
LOBBYIST FUNDS AND PUT OUR
VOTERS AND OUR COMMUNITY FIRST.
I FELT LIKE WE COULD REALLY
DELIVER A MESSAGE FOR THE BRONX,
FOR QUEENS, AND FOR THE WORKING
CLASS PEOPLE OF THE UNITED
STATES.
STATES. I FELT LIKE OUR PARTY COULD BE
BETTER.
BETTER. OUR MESSAGE COULD BE BETTER.
AND THAT WE COULD BE BETTER AS A
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> AS I FOLLOWED YOUR CAMPAIGN,
ALEXANDRIA, AND YOU CORRECT ME
IF I’M WRONG, I DIDN’T SEE YOU
DIRECTLY AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY
TAKING ON DONALD TRUMP BY NAME
HIMSELF.
HIMSELF. YOU SORT OF IMPLICITLY TOOK HIM
ON WITH YOUR IDEAS AND YOUR
PROGRAMS.
PROGRAMS. BUT IT WASN’T -- THEY WEREN’T
PERSONAL FIGHTS WITH DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP. IT WAS MAKING THE COUNTER
ARGUMENT TO HIS POLICIES.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. RIGHT.
RIGHT. I THINK THAT’S REALLY THE PATH
FORWARD.
FORWARD. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LAY OUT A
PLAN AND A VISION THAT PEOPLE
CAN BELIEVE IN AND GETTING INTO
TWITTER FIGHTS WITH THE
PRESIDENT IS NOT EXACTLY I THINK
WHERE WE’RE GOING TO FIND
PROGRESS AS A NATION.
>> HEY, STEVE?
THE TURNOUT, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF
THIS DISTRICT, WHAT DOES IT
PORTEND IN YOUR VIEW FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
DEMOCRATIC PARTY? >> IT IS INTERESTING.
I WOULD BE CURIOUS WHAT YOU
THINK OF IT, TOO.
NEW YORK STATE DOES THESE
PRIMARIES SO STRANGELY.
THERE IS A STATE WIDE PRIMARY
FOR GOVERNOR AND FOR ALL THESE
OTHER OFFICES LATER THIS SUMMER.
THEY SEPARATED OUT THE
CONGRESSIONAL PRIMARIES AND
FOLKS GETTING A BALLOT
YESTERDAY, I’M ONE OF THESE
PEOPLE, A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER
WITH TWO NAMES IN THE UPPER LEFT
CORNER AND NOTHING ELSE ON IT.
THE THINKING HAD BEEN THAT THIS
WAS GOING TO BE AN ADVANTAGE FOR
JOE CROWLEY, THIS WAS GOING TO
BE AN ADVANTAGE FOR INCUMBENTS
IN NEW YORK BECAUSE THERE WAS
GOING TO BE SUCH LOW TURNOUT,
SUCH LOW INTEREST AND SUCH LOW
ENERGY.
ENERGY. WAS THAT YOUR THINKING GOING
INTO THIS?
INTO THIS? >> I ACTUALLY KNEW THAT IN NEW
YORK’S SYSTEM -- OWN SYSTEM OF
VOTER SUPPRESSION, A LOW
TURN-OUT PRIMARY IS ACTUALLY AN
INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR A
GRASSROOTS ORGANIZER BECAUSE
WHEN ONLY 3% OF YOUR ELECTORATE
TURNS OUT, YOU REALLY JUST NEED
TO INSPIRE A COUPLE THOUSAND
PEOPLE AND IT CAN TOTALLY CHANGE
THE GAME.
THE GAME. >> ALL RIGHT.
SO YOU ALSO WENT TO THE BORDER.
RIGHT?
RIGHT? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WHEN DID YOU DO THAT?
WHY DID YOU DO THAT?
WHAT DID YOU WANT TO SHOW
PEOPLE?
PEOPLE? >> I WENT TO THE BORDER ON
SUNDAY.
SUNDAY. SO I WAS THERE WITH SEVERAL
ORGANIZATIONS AND ACTIVISTS AND
ORGANIZERS.
ORGANIZERS. I WENT THERE BECAUSE THE MORAL
CHARACTER OF OUR NATION IS ON
THE LINE AND IT CAN NOT WAIT.
RIGHT NOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT SOMETHING AS EXTREME AS
THE DETENTION AND SEPARATION OF
CHILDREN WHICH WE KNOW IS AN
INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS
ABUSE, WE CANNOT AFFORD FOR A
CONVENIENT TIME TO RESIST THAT.
WE NEED TO SHOW AND ASSERT AND
FIGHT FOR WHAT THE AMERICA WE
WANT TO BE.
WE NEED TO FIGHT TO MAKE THAT
HAPPEN.
HAPPEN. >> JOE HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
JOE, JUMP IN.
>> I ACTUALLY -- QUICK QUESTION
FOR STEVE KORNACKI.
BUT CERTAINLY, ALEXANDRIA, YOU
CAN ANSWER, TOO.
HEY, STEVE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN
WHEN A GUY LIKE JOE CROWLEY, WHO
IS ONE OF THE TOP LEADERS IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WHO’S WON YEAR
AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER
YEAR, IS DEFEATED IN HIS OWN
PRIMARY AND NOBODY SEES IT
COMING?
COMING? IS THIS -- DID HE FALL ASLEEP AT
THE WHEEL?
THE WHEEL? WHAT HAPPENED?
WHAT HAPPENED? >> THERE’S AN INCREDIBLE IRONY
WITH WHAT’S HAPPENED WITH JOE
CROWLEY AND IT IS THIS -- HE’S
BEEN IN CONGRESS FOR 20 YEARS.
HE WAS ELECTED IN ’98.
A SORT OF THE BACK-ROOM MANEUVER
GOT HIM INTO THAT PLACE IN THE
FIRST PLACE.
FIRST PLACE. HE SET OUT TO CLIMB THE
DEMOCRATIC RANKS IN D.C. BUT WAS
BLOCKED FOR YEARS BECAUSE HE HAD
A POOR RELATIONSHIP WITH NANCY
PELOSI.
PELOSI. HE SIDED WITH STENY HOYER.
IN ’06, ’08, ’10, CROWLEY HAD
SIGHTS ON MOVING UP.
IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS HE MENDED
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH PELOSI, HE
MOVED INTO LEADERSHIP AND WAS
POSITIONED AT THE TIME VOTING
STARTED YESTERDAY, HE WAS THE
CLOSEST THING THERE WAS TO A
CONSENSUS PICK TO EMERGE IF
NANCY PELOSI STEPPED DOWN OR WAS
CHALLENGED, HE WAS THE CLOSEST
THING TO A CONSENSUS PICK TO
BECOME THE NEXT DEMOCRATIC
LEADER, POTENTIALLY THE NEXT
DEMOCRATIC SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.
HE FINALLY AFTER ALL THOSE YEARS
GOT HIS RELATIONSHIPS RIGHT IN
D.C., ONLY TO TURN AROUND AND
FIND OUT THAT THE DISTRICT HE
HAD BEEN ELECTED TO 20 YEARS
AGO, WHERE HE WAS, BY THE WAY,
THE PARTY BOSS -- TALKING THE
QUEENS COUNTY CHAIRMAN HERE.
AGAIN, IT WAS A BACK-ROOM
MANEUVER THAT GOT HIM IN THERE
IN ’98 IN THE FIRST PLACE,
CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGED BACK HOME.
HE FINALLY GOT THINGS RIGHT IN
D.C., ONLY TO WATCH THEM ALL GO
WRONG BACK HOME.
>> I WANT TO POINT OUT, MIKA,
YOU MENTIONED ALEXANDRIA WENT TO
THE BORDER, SHE’S BEEN ON THIS
ISSUE LONG BEFORE IT WAS IN THE
NEWS, CALLING FOR THE ABOLITION
OF I.C.E.
OF I.C.E. NOT JUST WHILE IT WAS IN
NATIONAL NEWS.
NATIONAL NEWS. A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS ON YOUR
POLICY AGENDA THAT YOU MADE VERY
CLEAR THROUGHOUT -- MEDICARE FOR
ALL.
ALL. FEDERAL JOBS GUARANTEE.
AND TUITION-FREE PUBLIC
UNIVERSITIES AND TRADE SCHOOLS.
THOSE LOOK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE
LIKE PROMISES OF GIFTS UNDER THE
TREE.
TREE. BUT THEY WONDER HOW THEY’LL BE
PAID FOR.
PAID FOR. NOW YOU’RE IN A POSITION TO
CARRY THESE OUT.
HOW AT A TIME WHEN THE CBO SAYS
OUR DEBTS AND DEFICITS ARE
SPLOET ING
SPLOET ING EXPLODING, ARE GOING TO CRIPPLE
US, HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THAT?
>> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION.
FIRST I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT
THE DAMAGING LEGISLATIVE HISTORY
OF WHAT WE’VE DONE WITH OUR
TAXES.
TAXES. NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE A $400
BILLION GOP TAX CUT THAT COULD
TOO LULLY FORGIVEN EVERY SINGLE
STUDENT LOAN IN AMERICA.
WE SPENT THAT MONEY IN DECEMBER
AND WE SPENT IT ON TAX CUTS FOR
THE CORPORATIONS AND THE VERY
RICH.
RICH. BUT IT MEANS REVIEWING THE BUSH
TAX CUTS.
TAX CUTS. IT MEANS MAKING SURE THAT ALSO
WE UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF THE
PURSE THAT CONGRESS HAS THAT
WHEN THE UNITED STATES WAS IN
THE GREAT DEPRESSION, THAT IS
WHEN WE PURSUED THE NEW DEAL.
IT WAS WHEN PEOPLE PRECISELY
SAID WE HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF
ABILITY TO DO THIS THAT WE
ACTUALLY COMMITTED TO AN
ECONOMICALLY AMBITIOUS AGENDA
THAT TRANSFORMED THE FUTURE AND
THE COURSE OF THIS NATION.
I THINK THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY
POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE. BUT WHAT IT TAKES IS THE
POLITICAL COURAGE TO DO IT.
>> TO RAISE TAXES, TO ROLL BACK
THE TAX CUTS.
>> NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO
UNDERSTAND THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY
IN THE SIMILAR WAY THAT WE HAD
IN THE NEW DEAL TO SPEARHEAD
SOME OF THIS AGENDA AND SOME OF
THAT FINANCING, AS WELL.
>> MIKE BARNICLE?
>> WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM?
WHERE DOES ALL THIS COME FROM?
HOW DID YOU GET SO INTERESTED,
SO INVOLVED, SO INTENSE ON ALL
OF THESE ISSUES THAT THREATEN SO
MANY PEOPLE’S LIVES, THAT AFFECT
SO MANY PEOPLE’S LIVES?
WHERE DID IT COME FROM IN YOU?
>> WELL, YEARS AGO I HAD THE
HONOR OF WORKING FOR THE LATE
SENATOR KENNEDY, WHICH IS WHEN I
REALLY KIND OF FELL IN LOVE WITH
COMMUNITY WORK.
COMMUNITY WORK. BUT IT’S REALLY MY STORY AND MY
BACKGROUND.
BACKGROUND. MY FATHER PASSED AWAY WHEN I WAS
A TEENAGER.
A TEENAGER. MY MOTHER CLEANED HOMES AND
DROVE SCHOOL BUSES.
AND WHEN MY FAMILY WAS ON THE
BRINK OF FORECLOSURE IN 2008, MY
FATHER PASSED AWAY DURING THE
FINANCIAL CRISIS.
FINANCIAL CRISIS. THAT’S WHY I STARTED WAITRESSING
AND BARTENDING SO THAT SHE COULD
KEEP HER HOME.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE PAIN OF
WORKING CLASS AMERICANS BECAUSE
I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE PAIN AND
I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE URGENCY
OF THIS ECONOMIC MOMENT.
AND THAT IS WHY I -- I BRING
THAT URGENCY TO THIS FIGHT,
BECAUSE IT IS WHAT WE NEED AS A
NATION, IT IS WHAT WORKING
FAMILIES NEED AS A NATION.
>> HOW OLD ARE YOU?
>> I’M 28 YEARS OLD.
>> AND HOW DO YOU GET FROM THAT
STORY TO THINKING I’M GOING TO
RUN AND I THINK I CAN WIN?
I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT COMES
FROM INSIDE YOU, ESPECIALLY FOR
WOMEN WHO STRUGGLE TO KNOW THEIR
VALUE.
VALUE. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. I THINK 2016 WAS AN AMAZING YEAR
FOR -- I MEAN, IT WASN’T AN
AMAZING YEAR NATIONALLY BUT IT
WAS A YEAR OF AWAKENING FOR A
LOT OF INDIVIDUALS.
I FOUND MYSELF AT THE END OF
2016 AT STANDING ROCK.
I FOUND MYSELF IN FLINT,
MICHIGAN.
MICHIGAN. I JUST FELT LIKE AT THIS POINT
WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.
>> THAT’S RIGHT.
>> WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE!
AND EVEN IN A RACE THAT JUST
SEEMED IMPOSSIBLE, AS IT WAS
EVEN THREE MONTHS AGO, EVEN ON
LONG ODDS, THAT DOESN’T MEAN WE
SHOULDN’T TRY.
SHOULDN’T TRY. >> THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE.
>> WHAT’S YOUR ADVICE NOW?
BECAUSE EVERYONE IN THE
POLITICAL WORLD IS GOING TO GO
BACK NOW AND LOOK AT YOUR
CAMPAIGN AND LOOK WHAT YOU DID
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND
SAY, WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM IT?
HOW SHOULD WE MODEL OUR
CAMPAIGNS?
CAMPAIGNS? HOW CAN WE TAKE BACK THE HOUSE
THIS FALL?
THIS FALL? HOW CAN WE TAKE BACK THE WHITE
HOUSE?
HOUSE? A COUPLE OF YEARS?
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE AS
THEY WATCH YOUR CAMPAIGN?
BECAUSE YOU STAYED ON YOUR
MESSAGE THE WHOLE TIME.
I THINK IT WAS REFLECTED LAST
NIGHT WHEN JOE CROWLEY CONCEDED
AT HIS EVENT HE STARTED BY
DEDICATING A SONG TO YOU AND
CONGRATULATING YOU, THAT’S SORT
OF THE TENOR OF THE CAMPAIGN WAS
ABOUT A MESSAGE AND NOT ABOUT
PERSONAL FIGHTS.
PERSONAL FIGHTS. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE
HAVE TO STICK TO THE MESSAGE.
WHAT ARE WE PROPOSING TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE?
AMERICAN PEOPLE? NOT WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING
AGAINST.
AGAINST. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE’RE UNDER
AN AENNTAGONISTIC ADMINISTRATION
BUT WHAT IS GOING TO EARN AND
DESERVE THE SUPPORT OF WORKING
CLASS AMERICANS?
CLASS AMERICANS? AND WE NEED TO BE EXPLICIT IN
THAT VISION AND THAT
LEGISLATION, NOT JUST "BETTER."
BUT WHAT EXACTLY IS OUR PLAN?
AND THAT WHEN WE DO THAT,
WORKING CLASS AMERICANS, WHEN
WE’RE BOLD ABOUT IT, WHEN WE SAY
WE STAND UP FOR IMMIGRANTS, WHEN
WE STAND UP FOR THE LGBTQ
COMMUNITY, WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY
WORKING CLASS AMERICAN DESERVES
THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THEIR
ECONOMIC DESTINY AND THEIR
CHILDREN’S FUTURE, THAT’S THE
MESSAGE THAT WE NEED TO BRING
INTO THE MID-TERMS.
>> JOE, WHAT’S YOUR BIG
TAKE-AWAY LOOKING AT THIS RACE?
>> WELL, THE BIG TAKE-AWAY IS
THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN 2016.
LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO DID
REALLY WELL.
REALLY WELL. DONALD TRUMP ON THE REPUBLICAN
SIDE, BERNIE SANDERS ON THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE.
DEMOCRATIC SIDE. THE ANTITHESIS OF EACH OTHER.
BUT EACH HAD A MESSAGE.
EACH HAD A BOLD MESSAGE.
PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT DIDN’T LIKE
BERNIE’S.
BERNIE’S. A LOT OF US DIDN’T LIKE DONALD
TRUMP’S.
TRUMP’S. BUT THAT SAID, THERE IS A BOLD
MESSAGE.
MESSAGE. THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN WASHINGTON,
D.C. HAS, THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT
HILLARY CLINTON HAD.
AND THEN, MOST IMPORTANTLY, ONCE
YOU HAVE THAT MESSAGE, IT IS THE
FUNDAMENTALS.
FUNDAMENTALS. I ALWAYS CALLED IT THE BLOCKING
AND TACKLING.
AND TACKLING. KNOCKING ON DOORS.
PUTTING YARD SIGNS OUT THERE.
GETTING ON THE PHONES.
GETTING PEOPLE OUT TO VOTE,
HAVING PHONE BANKS, HAVING
PEOPLE IN CHURCHES AND
SYNAGOGUES, HAVING PEOPLE ALL
OVER YOUR DISTRICT DOING
EVERYTHING THEY COULD, DAY IN
AND DAY OUT.
AND YOU WORKED HARDER.
YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ALWAYS
CAME TO ME AND SAID WHAT’S THE
SECRET OF WINNING?
HOW DID YOU DO THIS?
NOBODY EXPECTED YOU TO WIN.
>> I SAID IT IS VERY SIMPLE.
I GET UP EARLIER THAN EVERYBODY
ELSE, YOU GO TO BED LATER THAN
EVERYBODY ELSE AND YOU WORK
HARDER IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO
POINTS.
POINTS. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO ARE THOSE
THREE THINGS AND YOU’VE GOT A
SHOT OF WINNING, TOO.
SOUNDS LIKE THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT
ALEXANDRIA DID.
ALEXANDRIA DID. AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN
THAT, SHE HAS A MESSAGE THAT THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT HAD.
>> AND THAT MESSAGE, BY THE WAY,
DID NOT TAKE HER THREE MINUTES
TO SPEW OUT DRONING ON AND ON
AND ON.
AND ON. I WILL TELL YOU, IN THE TWO
YEARS RUNNING UP TO HILLARY
CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN AND ELECTION
NIGHT, I ASKED EVERY DEMOCRAT
THAT CAME ON THIS SET, I ASKED
HILLARY CLINTON, I ASKED ALL OF
HILLARY CLINTON’S SUPPORTERS,
BECAUSE SHE WAS SO UNAVAILABLE,
WHAT’S THE MESSAGE?
WHAT’S THE MESSAGE?
AND THE ANSWER WAS ALWAYS TWO TO
THREE MINUTES LONG KIND OF
PLACATING, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE
OF NOWHERE, NOTHING MINUTES LONG
IN THE MIDDLE OF NOTHING.
ULTIMATELY.
ULTIMATELY. THIS VERY YOUNG CANDIDATE HAS A
CLEAR, CONCISE MESSAGE.
IT TOOK HER LESS THAN 30 SECONDS
TO SAY IT BECAUSE SHE KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
IT IS WHO SHE IS.
IT’S WHERE SHE CAME FROM.
AND IT’S WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO.
SO, I WANT EVERYONE TO TAKE A
LOOK AT THIS INTERVIEW, TAKE A
LOOK AT WHAT HER MESSAGE IS.
DON’T STEAL HER MESSAGE, FIND
YOUR OWN, DEMOCRATS, OKAY?
AND BELIEVE IN IT.
OUR PARTY AND WHAT OUR MESSAGE
IS, IF YOU FOCUS ON TRUMP WHICH
I DON’T THINK YOU EVEN MENTIONED
TODAY.
TODAY. >> NO.
>> NO. >> AND YET, AT THIS POINT, AN
ENTIRE DISTRICT IS SWEPT UP WITH
YOU.
YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> STEVE KORNACKI, THANK YOU.
THE RED AND THE BLUE THE 1990s
AND THE BIRTH OF POLITICAL
TRIBALISM IN THE COMING WEEKS.
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
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