- [Protestors] Not the church, not the state
The people must decide their fate.
- I am the people. - [Man] You are in the US.
You are in the US.
- I am the people.
The people the people have decided,
the court has decided.
You lose.
- [Protestors] When they say no choice, we say pro-choice.
- You have no choice. - When they say no choice
- [Protestors] We say pro-choice.
Not your body, not your choice.
Your body is mine and you're having my baby.
(crowd shouting)
- We will get to it.
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and let's just jump into it.
You all first up in what the fuck even is this story news
this was heavily requested on the text line.
This story has like everyone, Bobby Lee, Khalyla Kuhn
Brendan Schaub, Andrew Schultz and the Flagrant 2 podcast,
Ethan Klein and H3 podcast.
Also, I'm not done because finally it includes
Esther Povitsky and Annie Lederman
for those last two hosting a podcast
with Khalyla called Trash Tuesday.
So on that podcast Annie Lederman mentions
a married comedian who she says hit on her
by asking her to walk him to his truck
suggesting that was innuendo for sexual activity.
With Khalyla saying the same comedian
previously hit on her as well.
Despite the fact that she was with Bobby Lee.
Well, they never said his name there in a later episode,
bringing up the story they said his initials were BS.
So with that along with other comments,
like he's a comedian who isn't funny
which is a thing that people say about Brendan.
You had people believing that this was about Brendan Schaub.
And after mentioning this story
they also mentioned that there was gossip
pertaining to them about a scandal and said
that they were actually being threatened with a lawsuit.
And on social media this thing
just takes on a life of its own.
But to save time, I'm just gonna fast forward to last week
when you had Brendan Schaub addressing this
on the Flagrant 2 podcast.
Denying that he hit on Annie
or that he threatened them with legal action.
Saying, yeah there were some issues,
but it's all in the past.
- Did you try to walk Annie Lederman to your truck?
- No, It doesn't make sense, no.
I have nothing but love for her.
- Really?
- I have no idea, you know what her issue is,
anything like that?
That's fine.
That's her narrative and that's how she feels all good.
I get it.
- [Mark] Yeah, yeah
As far as Khalyla goes,
you know, me and her had a long conversation on the phone,
Me and her are good man, yeah, no one's suing.
- Saying he's good friends with Bobby
that he asked for Khalyla's number and adding.
- So I called her and we just had a conversation
you know, for, for over an hour.
Me and her are good man.
- [Phil] And at one point talking about what good friends
he is with Bobby.
- No, one's been more supportive when I started
than Bobby Lee did.
- With Schaub also praising Khalyla saying that anything
regarding suing must have just been a miscommunication
and adding he doesn't blame her for being mad
if she saw something suggesting that he was coming for her.
- I don't subscribe to social media.
So if she's getting that news.
- [Mark] Yeah.
- And she subscribes to it, I would be upset too.
- And so seemingly it's figured out
the door is closed on it.
But then Bobby and Khalyla go on the H3 podcast
saying that Brendan didn't tell the whole story.
Also, if you wanna watch any and all of this in full,
I'll link to it down below.
I'm just trying to make it consumable.
But here you had, Khalyla saying
that yes, they did talk it out and decided to squash it.
But felt she was kind of betray that he brought it up
on the Flagrant 2 podcast.
- He promised that this would never be brought up again.
But then he went on Flagrant 2 and talked about it.
So I was like, all right deal's off.
- Claiming that behind the scenes
Brendan was handling the situation by talking to Bobby
and that Bobby was getting punished
for something he wasn't even a part of.
With him seemingly getting dragged into this
just because he and Khalyla are a couple.
Also alleging that there was concerted effort
among comedians to bully Bobby and threaten his career.
- I have nothing to do with any of it.
I don't even know what the (beep) that the thing is about.
I was being screamed at and bullied and threatened.
- It was like a, get your bitch in line phone call.
- Yeah.
- [Hila] Oh my God.
- It was worse than that.
It was way worse than that.
And my point is, is that.
- I'm sorry, that's just,
- Now my fear is the results
of whatever this is now gonna be.
- Was there a text alluding to possibly suing people?
Yes, there was.
Did it, did it freak me out and did it make me think,
oh shit, like such a small thing to sue over.
But was there a lot of misunderstanding
from his team and us?
Yeah, but we talked it through, but the truth is the truth.
- [Bobby] It was not just him.
- [Ethan] There was a whole barrage.
- It was, it was a,
- Don't say the name.
- I'm not gonna, but it was a phone call
with other podcasters and it was not
- [Hila] That's some bull (bleep)
- [Ethan] They flogged you bro.
- Not flogged me, they threatened my career.
They called me a coward, a pussy,
you've always been a pussy.
- I'm sorry that unacceptable.
- [Khalyla] Blackmail
- And they said they would expose me.
They said that all these things.
- With the two then claiming that Brendan accused Bobby
of orchestrating online attacks against him.
- There's a disconnect between the information
he's being fed by his team.
I don't think it's all him.
Like, he's just like, I have 300 pages of, of proof
that, of an IP address that let's link to Bobby's.
- Oh please. - Listen to this Ethan.
- What a (bleep) liar . - Linked to Bobby's computer
I was like, do you realize how tech stupid Bobby is
- [Ethan] Thank you.
- He answers phone calls on his iPad.
- He says that he has proof that me,
over the last five or six years that I've been on Reddit.
- Everybody breathe. - That I was on,
I've been spending my time.
First of all, number one, I don't own a computer.
I don't even know how to buy one really.
You know what I mean?
- He really doesn't.
Right, number two I don't know how to get on Reddit.
I've asked her, how do you get on it, what is it?
So he was going, you are doing this.
We can trace the URL back to your house.
And you're the leader of this Reddit group.
I'm like, bro, first of all, if you look at from what I hear
if you look at Reddit, there are pages about me as well.
- And me, and they're horrible ones about me.
- And they're destroying me so I don't read it.
- If he saw the first podcast on Trash Tuesday and said,
Hey I really didn't like what you said.
- [Ethan] Right.
- It could have alluded to me, that's not good for me.
Then I would've said, I understand that, I didn't realize
that you would be getting extra harassment from all this.
- [Ethan] Right, right.
- I apologize, I will not say it again.
It's also not a cancelable offense to hit on a woman
- With Khalyla later adding that there was another element
to this story that she was hesitant to reveal
but decided she would anyways,
claiming that there were threats to expose
something about her as well.
With them explaining that for a period of time together,
they had an open relationship Khalyla was seeing someone
Bobby knew about it.
Them saying that there was still this effort
to frame it online as though she was cheating.
And even though this is something they both knew about
Bobby said that it was frustrating
to have this thing dangled over his head
because he doesn't always wanna tell the world
everything about his life.
- Well, for me to survive be by being a podcaster
there are things that I have to keep sacred to myself.
- [Hila] Yeah.
Okay, and so that's why I don't talk about certain things.
You know what I mean, Because it's like,
it's none of them, no one's business.
- This was one of them.
- Right, and this was one of them.
And now it's everyone's business.
- With Bobby also adding that he's still going to be afraid
about the fallout from all of this.
Which makes sense right, because if YouTubers
hate one another and they have beef, it's just like
fuck you, no fuck you.
But comedians, it's not just online.
They're constantly around one another.
And right now, as far as reactions, if you look online
most of it's against Schaub.
With people saying things like,
"It's one thing for Brendan Schaub to not be funny,
which he's not at all, but how the hell is he allowed
to get away bullying and threatening to blackmail
an established comedian like Bobby Lee, just pathetic."
And that is kind of the one PG comment
I can include on this show.
Meanwhile, you had others kinda just hoping
that Brendan's gonna speak up and respond to all of this
And that for now brings us to the end of this story
that has Jesus, everything.
Sex, love, lies, allegations, threats of lawsuit, blackmail.
Ah, remember when online beef used to just like
result in diss track music videos, man.
But I, I will say with this story
I do wanna pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts on any and all of it?
Especially if you're someone that's really big
into this kind of comedian podcast bubble,
'cause it feels like everyone interacts with everyone,
both at the the creator level as well as the audiences.
So yeah, let me know what you're thinking and why.
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And then let's talk about the peculiar case
around Sergio Enrique Diaz-Navarro
because back in March of 2020
he brings in his Jeep to get work done.
You have the mechanics in charge there being 19 year old
Daniel Thompson and 42 year old Jeffrey Hawkins.
And after the service was complete
Thompson attempts to get the car started
and plans to let it idle
to ensure that there's no oil leaks, which is pretty normal.
However, based on court documents,
it seems like he didn't know how to start
the Jeep's manual transmission
which caused the Jeep to lurch forward
and pin Hawkins to a cabinet resulting in injuries
that led to Hawkins' tragic death.
And a year later, his estate sued
both Thompson and Diaz-Navarro for 15 million dollars.
Now with this, if you're like me you hear this news
and you have two questions in your mind.
Why is Diaz-Navarro being sued
and why is the dealership not?
Especially because not only did they hire Thompson
and have him work on vehicles.
They did that even though he didn't have a license.
And as it turns out, the answer to both of those questions
is because this happened in Michigan
where employers are immune from negligence
involving employee accidents.
So let's walk through just how dumb this state law is.
Right so if the accident only involves employees
They get paid out by workers comp,
which Hawkins' family is receiving.
Also Thompson's inclusion makes sense.
He's the one who messed up.
He didn't know what he was doing
but then Hawkins' lawyer claimed
that Diaz-Navarro has to be included in this case
because he was negligent in handing over his car,
which is because the law in Michigan
is that if you are a car owner
you are liable for any accident involving the vehicle.
If you give permission for someone to use the car.
Now that said Diaz-Navarro is not completely fucked.
He did have a way to get around this.
Having now managed to successfully
sue the dealership himself for indemnity,
meaning that they'll be forced to pay
if Hawkins's suit against Diaz-Navarro is successful.
Which is why now you have the dealership's lawyers
protecting Diaz-Navarro in a lawsuit,
even though they were initially immune from the lawsuit.
Which all sounds like an incredibly overcomplicated
too many steps process to get where we should have been.
But the story's still not done because even though
they are defending Diaz-Navarro
at the same time they are appealing the indemnity ruling.
So essentially in one hand they have a bat
they're trying to defend Diaz-Navarro
but at the same time in the other hand,
they have a knife trying to stab him in the back.
Because if they're successful in appealing
the indemnity ruling, all of a sudden Diaz-Navarro
is gonna be on the hook for 15 million dollars.
Even though big reminder
all he did was bring his Jeep in for a routine oil change.
It's just absolute insanity.
And then as promised we have news
that starts with this asshole.
- You have no choice.
- [Protestors] When they say no choice, we say pro choice.
- Not your body, not your choice.
You're body is mine and you're having my baby.
- So that was some face idiot in Manhattan
who was responding to pro-choice demonstrators this weekend.
And for many, this kind of just highlights how high
the stakes are if Roe v. Wade is actually overturned.
'Cause there are people out there who legitimately believe
that they have claim over a woman's body.
Now, a quick thing that I wanna touch on he and his buddies
you see them sporting FDNY gear
seemingly associated with the department.
But you have the agency denying that this morning writing
"A video circulating from a protest in Manhattan
over the weekend shows an individual wearing
a FDNY sweatshirt.
The individual in the video is not a member of the FDNY
the comments may do not represent the views of the FDNY.
The matter is under investigation."
But all of this is kind of just the tip of the iceberg
for how crazy things will be if Roe is overturned.
For example the headquarters of a Madison, Wisconsin based
anti-abortion group was allegedly set on fire on Sunday
after Molotov cocktail was thrown through a window.
Also, the words,
"If abortions aren't safe, then you aren't either"
were spray painted on the wall outside the building.
Julaine Appling president of the Wisconsin Family Action
telling local news,
"This is the local manifestation of the anger
and the lack of tolerance from the pro-abortion people
towards those of us who are pro-life".
With local authorities and federal agencies
investigating the incident
which is largely being treated as an arson investigation.
But what we saw here, wasn't just condemned by the right.
You had Planned Parenthood Wisconsin
responding to the incident, saying.
"Our work to protect continued access
to reproductive care is rooted in love.
We condemn all forms of violence and hatred
within our communities."
Governor Tony Evers tweeting
"we condemn violence and hatred
in all forms and including the actions
at Wisconsin Family Action in Madison last night."
However, not everyone is buying at this attack was legit.
Author Tim Wise, who specializes in writing
about race relations and similar social unrest
saying as much writing
"let's get back to the story itself.
Here's why I don't buy it.
First, the graffiti is too perfect.
The long message they scrawled is like calligraphy.
And if you're attacking someone else's shit
you're in a hurry to tag and get out."
and adding "On the other hand, if it was an inside job
you're not worried about getting caught.
But the big tell is the anarchy symbol and the numeric code
for All Cops Are Bastards", with him going on to detail
that the anarchy symbol is almost never
actually made like that by leftist groups.
And that ACAB doesn't even make sense here.
And on top of that, adding "Also this event
benefits anti-abortion folks exclusively.
They need to keep the lid on anger at the reversal of Roe
which they know most people oppose reversing
by making themselves the victim they hope to do that."
While you had those agreeing and shitting on that opinion
and that point of view.
You had some arguing that even if this event
was done by pro-choice people or groups
arguing that it's one attack,
and there are always idiots in any group.
And that doesn't mean that pro-choice people
inherently are violent.
With people pointing to or arguing things
like one attack like this pales in comparison
to the hundreds made against abortion clinics
by pro-birth groups.
Now, with that said, Wisconsin, wasn't the only place
that saw some controversial reactions
to Roe V. Wade's potential demise.
With protestors demonstrating outside
of Justice Brett Kavanaugh's home on Saturday.
Chanting outside of Kavanaugh's home.
We will not go back, we will not go back.
- [Protestors] We will not go back.
- [Man] I see you buddy.
- [Protestors] We will not go back.
And with this we saw President Biden
via press secretary Jen Psaki saying
that he strongly believes in the constitutional right
to protest but that should never include violence
threats or vandalism.
And adding judges' perform an incredibly important function
in our society.
And they must be able to do their job
without concern for their personal safety.
And that seems to be the biggest argument
against the protest that justices and judges
should be able to do their jobs
without fear of any reprisals, right?
Arguing that otherwise it could open the floodgates to mobs
forcing judges to make decisions one way or the other.
However, at the same time
you have many defending those protests.
With arguments like this one from a professor at Princeton
pointing out that the Supreme court upheld the right
of anti-gay activists to protest a military funeral.
So long as the protestors stayed on public land
adding hashtag I'm not a lawyer,
but it kind of feels like what goes around, comes around.
With others, mocking conservative talking points
that those who disagree with Roe's potential overturning
could just move to a state that allows abortions
claiming that if Kavanaugh didn't like the protest,
he could just move.
But for now, that is where the story is.
And the question I wanna pass off to you
it doesn't have to do with like
was the attack false flag or not
because that's just gonna be a lot of conjecture.
But rather, what are your thoughts regarding protests
happening outside of Kavanaugh's house?
You're for it, you're against it.
You're somewhere in the middle.
Maybe you're confused by it.
What are you thinking and why?
But ultimately that is where that story
and today's show ends.
As always thank you for watching,
being a part of the conversation in those comments.
My name's Philip DeFranco.
You've just been filled in.
I love your faces and I'll see you tomorrow.