hi guys Kirk and Carl here with Kirk Giordano plasting today I just want to show you something
guy I did a video two days ago and I had a bunch of response it was overlapping of the wire how
much overlap should you do and I was showing that in the field I show the studs and this is called
in the field between the studs so I said in the field between the studs we generally put a staple
in there because the wire can come out too far and then when we scratch and brown the wire will show
so we have to put a staple to push it down because two layers of paper or I'm sorry two layers the
wire especially the wire I use deep furred will be thick so I had one response by a fella named
Mark Fowler now anybody in the stucco industry knows Marc Bouwer he's wrote a couple books on
plastering he's been an expert witness all over the country for people who screw up stucco things
of that nature expert witness and of course he worked for the magazine walls and ceilings for
like ten years as a vice president I think now he took a normal Fox's position at SEMA and what
is SMA it's another magazine stucco manufacturing Association so mark I was at I mean I was showing
this and he responded says yeah Kirk you know in the field today I've noticed because he does the
expert witness and he says that today some some people are saying well when you put it
in the field it leads to leaks and I thought I like that if you take all of the questions you
go on Google and your Google stuff almost every question will have a contradiction what does that
mean that mean it's like some people say don't use staples and some people will say use staples
so there's always contradiction such as if you put staples in the field 30 years ago 25 years
ago we were doing a house in Tiburon big 6,000 square foot house and we miss some of the studs
because we placed them in the field I'm gonna I'm gonna show you something right here these
staples here we're in the field to hold the wire because it was so are these right here and so are
these come on over here Carl let me find one that I don't have okay on this wall I pretty much just
hit every stud right here for example there's two that are in the field and usually here's
where my wire is criss-crossing so I'll tap these guys down this is what what we had to do about 25
years ago you tap it down and that secures that it doesn't loosen up or it keeps the wire tight
and it actually adds to the strength you have to have a certain amount of staples per stud 7/8 of
my leg of the staple should be in these studs here I don't have this we're opportunity all the time
guys because most of the houses we do they'll have sheetrock and insulation here they don't
yet because of this special circumstance but I'm gonna take you around here okay right here there
are at the gables where I was showing how I was just stapling off to prove a point by the way
this description in the description I'll have that video that I just posted like two days ago
say for example right here let me let me go around these guys right here okay those are staples that
have punctured and these are through the field this is what we did say even 25 years ago on a
big job timber on 6,000 square foot house we had some penetrations and all we did is we we bent
down the staple on the inside why because at that time the inspector said guys you've got a couple
miss studs and you have some penetrations in order to achieve what we want maximum strength for the
stucco bend those down so I bent these down so I'm answering my buddy marks question as far as
you bent those down that's that's what we do this is the perfect opportunity for me to show this
kind of stuff because normally the sheetrock so don't put insulation sheetrock you want we
don't have the opportunity to show this kind of stuff what we do inside and pretty good on all
these studs here I'm actually amazed at myself I was stapling all this off expect and I rarely
hit and we stud right on the money that's what we try to do but to do it perfectly every time it's
almost impossible anyway old mark is now he is the editing director of SMA magazine that is I think
it was Norma Fox's job back in 57 that's how long that magazine has been out I know that because I
was born in 59 so anyway he's got a tough job to fill her shoes because editing director of a
major magazine and what does SMA stand for stucco manufacturing Association so that's it's a good
magazine hopefully they'll feature us in that but anyway he's got big shoes to fill with that
particular magazine it would have hired me because you gotta have a lot of time in but they found out
I was illiterate kiddin okay let me show you what we're doing here today anyway I just thought I'd
when folks you guys have any questions email me and I will do a video if I can to answer that
question this one's because mark post it and say yeah you know what Kirk I was a witness and they
said you shouldn't do this and that you go online guys everything contradicts everything there's so
much information anyway come out here just for a sec Karl alright guys this is what we do basically
doing we're doing a scratch about and no go every job we do we show maybe 10% of the jobs we do
because it's getting dark and I wanted to prove a point inside here we're just finishing up this
garage with scratch brown and the - finish anyway guys that was for mark to answer that question ina
answer anybody you guys any opinions questions about anything ask me if I can do a video it can
prove a point I will does my point always meet everybody standard no there's there's always a
little bit of fluctuation in my opinions and other people's opinion that's what life's about anyway
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