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Eric Hushbeck says, "Always mild fatigue reaction to even 100 micrograms of iodine despite low
thyroid peroxidase and TPA.
What's TPA antibodies?
Do you know?
TPO and TPA.
I'm not sure what he's talking about.
Carrie: I thought it was TG, thyroglobulin antibody.
Chris: May that's what he's talking about.
And 24-hour urinary iodine is 53 micrograms, which is moderately deficient.
He doesn't look like he has thyroiditis.
He looks deficient in iodine.
Small doses of iodine are giving him fatigue.
Any thoughts?
Carrie: Yes.
Well, one thought is a big one.
Remember, iodine belongs to the halogen family and other halogens can bind onto your PT or
tyrosine.
I have had this before where patients would take iodine and the iodine will push off the
fluoride and the chloride and the bromide off of the tyrosine, and so it binds on and
now you have essentially a detox reaction.
People will say, "I get headaches.
I've broken out in rashes.
I'm really tired."
Because the other halogens have come off the tyrosine and are now floating around your
system.
I believe in iodine.
I'm not sold yet on iodine testing.
I feel like there are so many rules of thoughts.
But if I use iodine, I warn people of that, of the detox reaction.
Chris: You mean you're not sure how valuable a 24-hour urinary iodine is?
Carrie: I don't use it.
If I'm going to spend money on a patient, it's not normally on a 24-hour iodine test.
Chris: My perception has been that the 24-hour urinary iodine is a good marker of what you've
been eating in the last day or so.
I think where it would be valuable is if you don't know the iodine content of your diet,
which is almost guaranteed that you have no idea how much iodine you're eating, it depends.
If most of your iodine is coming from kelp, you probably have a reasonably good idea of
how much iodine you're getting.
But on a diet where most of your iodine is coming from land foods, then you have absolutely
no idea.
Well, you can get a general idea.
If you're living in an iodine-deficient belt in Illinois and everything that you eat comes
from the local farmers' market, you probably have low iodine intake.
But a potato from one part of the United States can have a hundred times as much iodine as
a potato from another part of the United States.
I think if you eat very consistently, if you eat the same thing every day, the one 24-hour
iodine is probably a pretty good reflection of the iodine content of your diet.
For most people, probably three or four 24-hour urinary iodine spread out across in a way
that would capture a representative sample of what they're usually eating would probably
give you a pretty good idea of the intake.
It doesn't really tell you your status though because what's your exposure of the other
halogens and things like that.
But you're probably right.
It's probably not the top priority in spending money unless you have reasons to think your
issue is iodine-related.
In this case, he's got fatigue reactions to iodine, so I guess it's interesting that his
urinary iodine looks like he needs more.
If urinary iodine isn't real high, he doesn't have iodine toxicity.
Carrie: No, right.
Exactly, exactly.
Chris: Have you found in those cases where people say or where people report these detox
reactions to iodine, have you found a solution to this?
Is the solution just taking the iodine powder through it?
Carrie: Yup, and doing like sweating and binders and things like that, doing all the normal
stuff you would do for a Herxheimer type reaction, but it can take one to two weeks.
Chris: What are all the normal things you do for a Herxheimer reaction?
Carrie: Wait a minute.
Obviously lots of water, exercise, binders, so like fiber and charcoal or zeolite or whatever
you're doing to bind this stuff up, clay, those supplements with that sort of stuff
in it.
Saunas are really good, sweating, dry skin brushing to try to help move it through your
body while staying on the iodine.
You want the iodine to bind to the tyrosine and not the halogen to rebind because you
stopped taking it, which is going to rebind to your tyrosine.
I've seen it take up to a couple weeks, depending how halogen toxic that you are.
In fact, I had a bus driver as a patient who drank eight Mountain Dews a day because her
shift, she had four going this way and then four coming back to the station was the consistency
of her day.
With every long drive she did, she drank a Mountain Dew, so eight Mountain Dews a day.
First of all, just to get her off Mountain Dew was a struggle.
Then her reaction was we worked with thyroid.
Thyroid is a big thing for her detox iodine lifestyle.
Her reaction was a long time because she'd been drinking eight Mountain Dews for a long
time as a bus driver.
Chris: What's in the Mountain Dew you're trying to detox, the yellow color?
Carrie: Oh, sorry, bromide.
Chris: Oh, it's bromide.
Carrie: Bromide.
It's very high in bromide.
I was trying to get the bromide out of her system.
Chris: Yeah, that's a lot of Mountain Dew.
Carrie: Eight, yes.
Chris: I always avoided it because of the rumor on the street when I was a teenager
was that it would make your testicle shrink.
I don't know if that's true.
Carrie: I don't know if that's true either.
Chris: That was a very good legend.
Carrie: That's hilarious.
I always heard that it had the most caffeine.
Mountain Dew, I never gotten Mountain Dew ever.
I don't even like the taste.
My friends who drank it were always like, "Well, it has the most caffeine content."
Chris: Not as much of some of the things out there now.
Carrie: Oh, my gosh, yeah.
This was years ago when I was much younger.
Chris: All right.
Thank you, Eric, for your question.