the Apple silicon Mac Pro has been in the works for years now and we finally
got a huge leak dump from Mark German with a bunch of answers to the questions
that we had about it now the biggest question that we're going to answer in
this video is should you actually wait for it or should you just look elsewhere
and get a different machine right now well let's jump right into it of course
we have Mark German's Twitter right here and before I get into the brand new
power on newsletter that he just released I want to go through the update
that we had last year with what's going on with the Apple silicon Mac Pro and
unfortunately the news was that Apple was scaling back its high-end Mac Pro
plans and canceling the M2 extreme chip meaning that it's only going to be
running the M2 Ultra with up to 24 CPU cores 76 GPU cores and 192 gigs of RAM
but now we just got a brand new update with some new news in addition to the
canceling of the into extreme the machine is going to look identical to
the current 2019 Intel model and unfortunately there is not going to be
any user upgradable RAM and that could be a huge disappointment to a lot of you
guys because we've been having leaks and rumors of a smaller Mac Pro for months
maybe even years now and a lot of people were excited for that because the
current one is huge it's massive it's heavy it's hard to move around so a new
redesign was very exciting but now let's actually dig deep into the power on
newsletter itself and look at all of the details now this new Mac Pro is going to
be limited to the M2 Ultra it's not going to have user upgradable Ram but
here's the interesting addition right here there are still going to be two SSD
storage slots and there's going to be GPU PCI Express slots for graphics media
and networking cards and the big standout is the graphics that means that
either apple is going to be allowing third-party gpus which I'm kind of iffy
about I don't think they will or they're going to make their own custom apple
gpus and that is going to allow Apple to increase their profit margins by just
offering that but now let's get into the extreme chip now the leaks for the
extreme chip are kind of interesting because way back in July of last year
mark German within an interview that I actually conducted with him he said that
Apple actually had an M1 based extreme Mac Pro ready to ship but they ended up
calling it off canceling it and delaying it to wait for the second generation of
M chips and then fast forward to December 18th when he said the M2
extreme was getting canceled that was a huge disappointment because for me the
whole point of the Mac Pro is to be a status symbol showing that the arm-based
chips with the M2 extreme are coming to disrupt the entire industry and the
crazy thing is that we actually have leaks last year like for Majin Buu
showing that Apple was legit working on this new extreme processor with two M1
Ultras put together and you can even see this new Ultra Fusion fabric right here
and a little diagram of the four dies within the extreme chip so Apple was
working on it but as far as why I think the extreme ship was canceled altogether
even for the M2 extreme it all comes down to an exclusive source that we had
last year that told us that Apple's M1 family at chips came with a design
limitation or a flaw that ruined the GPU scaling that didn't allow the chips to
scale that well specifically with the M1 Max where you started to see a hint of
scaling issues and the M1 Ultra that had massive massive scaling issues now let
me show show you this this is a video when we compared the Mac Studio three
different versions We had the 24 core M1 Max then the 48 core GPU M1 Ultra and
the fully loaded 64 core and as you can see you're not getting perfect scaling
in terms of 3D Mark Wildlife extreme especially going from the 48 core M1
Ultra to the 64 core it's barely faster so we started doing calculations and you
can see here that as you get to more GPU cores there is less FPS per core so the
scaling gets worse and now here's where it gets into why this applies to the M2
extreme well Mark German himself and I've been saying for a while that the M2
Chip is a stopgap chip I believe it's basically the same design as the M1 just
tuned up and over clocked so the thing is if the M1 Familia chips had the flaw
with scaling that's going to translate to the M2 Chip now for a while I was
hoping that the M2 Pro and M2 Max would come on three nanometer but it's looking
more and more like it's not going to be three nanometer with a new design it's
looking like it's just gonna be another improved four nanometer or five
nanometer chip and we even looked at leaked benchmark scores for the M2 Max
chip and as you can see the single core is pretty decent and the multi-core is
okay but it's nowhere near the score it should be if it was actually built on
three nanometer so that means that the entire M2 Max die and the M2 Ultra and
likely the theoretical M2 extreme would have the same scaling issue so that's
what I believe happened I believe Apple canceled it once they started testing
out the M2 extreme chip they saw that the scaling was horrible they decided to
completely cancel it to not embarrass themselves because we of course would
test it out and see this is not worth it the scaling is bad ad don't buy the M2
extreme so unfortunately we're going to be stuck with the M2 Ultra as the
highest end chip for the Mac Pro but there is some good news because back in
December Mark German said that apple is planning to move Mac Pro production
completely out of the us over to Asia which is in Vietnam and that by itself
is gonna help Apple save money so Apple's gonna save money on multiple
fronts they're going to save money by reusing the same chassis they've already
been making they're going to save money by not having to put in a GPU card and
extra Ram slots because it's all going to be built into the M2 Max I believe
the M2 Max is going to be the base model with an upgrade to the M2 Ultra and
they're going to manufacture it in Vietnam so because of those reasons we
could even see four thousand or five thousand dollars as the entry base price
for the Mac Pro but with all that said this is going to create some issues
within Apple's High high-end Mac lineup because we got the Max studio last year
and the interesting thing about the Mac Studio is that it comes with the M1
Ultra as the highest end ship so if the Mac Pro is going to have the M2 Ultra as
the highest end chip I fully believe that apple is gonna have to do something
with the Mac Studio to make sure that that does not get updated with the M2
Ultra because you're gonna have a choice between the same chip either with the
Mac Studio or even more expensive Mac Pro I don't think Apple's gonna want
that Clash so one option is to completely discontinue the Mac Studio
altogether but I don't think that's gonna happen I believe that apple is
going to put the Max studio on the back burner like they're not going to care
about it for a full three years from the release date which means we might not
even see a new Mac Studio update until 2025 when eventually I believe Apple's
gonna fix the scaling issues and it's going to come with an M3 Ultra while we
could get a Mac Pro with finally the M3 extreme four die chip in 2025 or maybe
even 2026 I'm not sure but I believe it's going to be put on the back burner
because we just got this report from cirp saying that they have a new report
with the Mac model mix of the September 2022 quarter yes they were able to look
at which Macs are the most popular and interestingly if you look right here out
of all Macs only one percent of the sales go to the Mac Studio which is
terrible which means Apple should not prioritize the Mac Studio at all they
can easily put it on the back burner also only one percent for the Mac Mini
of all Max sales likely because people are waiting for the M2 version there
were a lot of leaks but surprisingly out of all of the desktop Max 43 of the
sales go to the Mac Pro which I didn't think it was that high but the main
takeaway here is that the Mac Studio doesn't sell well Apple likely doesn't
care about it they'll probably put it on the back burner and will likely see the
M2 Ultra Mac Pro as the only way to get that Ultra chip so that's one reason why
you would want to wait for the Mac Pro because that's going to be likely the
only way to get an M2 Ultra chip but then the question is how is the scaling
going to be what if the scaling is just as bad or maybe even worse so if you
don't like the fact that it's going to have the same chassis non-upgradable Ram
then maybe you should just forget about the Mac Pro altogether forget about
spending all that money and literally just go and buy a 16 inch MacBook Pro
which is about to get updated with the M2 Max chip that's likely going to be
the best option because it is a mobile solution but then again there are still
people buying Intel Mac Pro right now and they have their own reasons for it
they need it for their heavy duty tasks so if you're one of those people you
probably know already so let me know what you think about all of these leaks
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