LET’S BRING IN EUGENE ROBINSON AND DAVID PLOUFFE IT BACK.
AND DAVID PLOUFFE IT BACK.
DAVID, THIS IS SORT OFFAGEOF AGE
AGE-OLD TRADITION -- IT’S NOT UP
ISN’T UP, DOWN ISN’T DOWN ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE.
THE WIND AT THE PRESIDENT’S BACK
ON THIS ONE SEEM TO BE THE
WHOPPING 68% TO 70% OF PUBLIC
SUPPORT FOR THE PACKAGE.
>> NO DOUBT, NICOLLE.
I THINK THIS IS VERY SMART.
I’M SURE WE WON’T SEE THE LAST
TIME WE SEE THIS.
YOU HAVE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY
ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTING
THIS PACKAGE.
A LOT OF LOCAL AND STATE
REPUBLICAN LEADERS.
THOUGH YOU ISOLATE THE
REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS.
WHAT I THINK THIS SUGGESTS IS,
IT DOES ECHO BACK TO 2009 WHEN
THE COUNTRY WAS IN ECONOMIC
PAIN, AND REPUBLICANS DECIDED
NOT TO COOPERATE ON THE STIMULUS
PACKAGE THEN.
I THINK McCONNELL AND McCARTHY,
MAYBE THERE WILL BE DEALS ON
INFRASTRUCTURE, WE’LL SEE, MAYBE
ON IMMIGRATION, AND THE BIDEN
WHITE HOUSE WILL DO ALL THEY
CAN, BUT THE MORE YOU ISOLATE
THE NAYSAYERS IN WASHINGTON, THE
BETTER OFF YOU ARE.
WHETHER IT’S IMMIGRATION OR
INFRASTRUCTURE, REPUBLICAN
VOTERS, LOCAL REPUBLICAN ELECTED
OFFICIALS, REPUBLICAN BUSINESS
LEADERS ARE LARGELY SUPPORTIVE
OF THESE THINGS, SO I THINK THE
MORE OF THIS, THE BETTER.
BY THE WAY, EVEN IF IT DOESN’T
CHANGE ANY REPUBLICANS VOTES IN
CONGRESS, IT PROBABLY WON’T, BUT
IT POINTS OUT AND UNDERSCORES
THEIR OPPOSITION IS NOT
SUBSTANTIVE.
IT’S A POLITICAL GAME THEY HAVE
ALREADY CALLED.
WE’RE NOT GOING TO COOPERATE
EXCEPT ON VERY RARE EXCEPTIONS.
>> YOU NOTICE,KNOW, IT’S NOT A P
ANALOGY, BUT THE SAME WAY IMPEACHMENT WAS VERY PARTISAN IN
IMPEACHMENT WAS VERY PARTISAN IN
THE HOUSE AND SENATE, THIS ABOUT
BILL HAS 67% SUPPORT -- 76%
SUPPORT.
70% AMONG DEMOCRATS.
60% SUPPORT AMONG REPUBLICAN.
LISTEN TO HOW THE GOVERNOR OF
WEST VIRGINIA DESCRIBED HOW WE
NEED TO GO BIG WITH MY COLLEAGUE
CRAIG MELVIN.
>> AT THIS POINT IN TIME IN THIS
NATION, WE NEED TO GO BIG.
WE NEED TO QUIT COUNTING THE
EGG-SUCKING LEGS ON THE COWS,
AND MOVE AND MOVE FORWARD.
IF WE WASTE SOME MONEY NOW,
WELL, WE WASTE SOME, BUT WE HAVE
TOO MANY PEOPLE HURTING.
THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO SPUTTER.
WE’VE GOT TO GET OURSELVES OUT
OF THIS MESS.
>> EUGENE, THAT WAS REPUBLICAN
GOVERNOR JIM JUSTICE OF THE
STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA.
>> THAT’S RIGHT.
HE’S BEEN SAYING THAT FOR A LONG
TIME.
HE’S AS REPUBLICAN AS THEY COME
IN A STATE THAT’S AS REPUBLICAN
AS THEY COME.
HE’S BEEN SAYING OVER AND OVER
AGAIN, GO BIG, GO BIG, GO BIG.
LOOK, THAT IS THE VIEWPOINT OF A
LOT OF REPUBLICANS AS WELL AS
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS.
THE PRESIDENT TALKED TO TODAY A
LOT OF GOVERNORS TODAY, AS WELL
AS MAYORS.
SO I AGREE WITH DAVID.
I THINK IT’S A NATURAL THING TO
DO, A SMART THING TO DO, TO GO
OUT TO -- CLOSER TO THE
GRASSROOTS, WHERE YOU HAVE THAT
70% SUPPORT FOR THIS
LEGISLATION.
IT DOES ISOLATE REPUBLICANS IN
CONGRESS WHO LOOK AS IF THEY’RE
JUST ON THE WRONG PAGE.
THEY LOOK AS IF THEY’RE CLAIMING
TO REPRESENT THE WRONG COUNTRY.
THE REAL COUNTRY WANTS THIS BIG
PACKAGE AND WANTS IT NOW.
I THINK WE’LL GET IT, BUT AS
DAVID SAID, WE’LL PROBABLY GET
IT WITH JUST DEMOCRATIC VOTES IN
CONTINGENT, BECAUSE THAT’S THE
WAY THEY WANT TO PLAY IT.
>> DAVID, I DON’T HAVE ANY SENSE
THAT THE BIDEN WHITE HOUSE IS
GAINING IT OUT ON POLITICAL
TERMS, BUT IF YOU DID, NO
PROBLEM.
YOU DON’T WANT TO VOTE FOR THE
RELIEF PACKAGE, RPG?
YOU DON’T WANT TO VOTE FOR
ECONOMIC STIMULUS FOR SMALL
BUSINESSES IN YOUR DISTRICT?
YOU DON’T WANT TO VOTE FOR
OPENING SCHOOLS UP?
ALL RIGHT, I’LL SEE YOU IN TWO
YEARS IN THE MID TERMS.
IF THE ECONOMY COMES BACK, IN
THE COUNTRY REACHES HERD
IMMUNITY, IT WILL BE A
SINGULARLY DEMOCRATIC
ACCOMPLISHMENT WITH THE HELP OF
A FEW REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS.
>> NO QUESTION.
FIRST, WHY DO SO MANY REPUBLICAN
GOVERNORS SUPPORT THIS?
BECAUSE THEY’RE CLOSE TO THE
PAIN.
THEY SEE IT EVERY DAY.
WORKERS, SMALL BUSINESSES,
FAMILIES.
THEY KNOW WE DON’T HAVE ANY
OPTION BUT TO ACT.
THE REPUBLICAN NUMBERS ARE
FASCINATING.
THAT MEANS MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
OF REPUBLICANS WHO ACTUALLY
DON’T THINK JOE BIDEN WON THE
ELECTION SUPPORT THE RELIEF
PACKAGE.
PRETTY REMARKABLE.
UNLIKE 2008 AND ’09 THAT WE BOTH
LIVED THROUGH, THE ECONOMISTS
WERE CLEAR, IT WOULD TAKE YEARS
TO RECOVER.
MOST ECONOMISTS THINK WE’LL
RECOVER MORE QUICKLY.
SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, HOPEFULLY
SCHOOLS WILL BE OPEN, WE’LL BE
CLOSE TO HERD IMMUNITY, BE DONE
VACCINATING PEOPLE, AND THE
ECONOMY SHOULD BE STRENGTHENING.
IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD NOTHING
TO DO WITH THAT, YEAH, I THINK
THE POLITICAL HIGH GROUND IS
THERE FOR THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION FOR DEMOCRATS SO
SEIZE.
YOU COUPLE THAT WITH WHAT WILL
HAPPEN IN REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES,
WHERE RIGHT NOW YOU SAY THE WINS
CANDIDATES SAY COVID WAS A HOAX,
TRUMP WON THE ELECTION, CLIMATE
CHANGES ISN’T REAL, ALL THE
CRAZY STUFF.
I THINK WE’RE A LONG WAY OFF
FROM THAT, BUT I DO THINK THIS
IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM
2009-2010.
I THINK THE PACE OF RECOVERY
WILL BE MUCH QUICKER.
RIGHT NOW YOU SHOWED THE COVID