ELIZABETH: I've always been interested in what seems like two different things.
How do I love myself? You know, everyone says, to thine own self be true.
Whether it's Shakespeare or the Bible or whomever. It's what we think is real.
We've got to love our self. But at the same time, we have this yearning to
connect with others. OPRAH: Mm-hmm.
ELIZABETH: And to see that self in the other.
And so sometimes we err in one direction,
being way more self-centered than we should be.
And sometimes we err in the other direction.
Giving our self away. Not trusting our self.
Being more for other people than for our self.
And love is getting that balance right.
Bringing your real self to another person's real self. That's not easy.
OPRAH: That's not easy.
And it's really not easy when people are at their lowest. When they are in pain.
ELIZABETH: Mm-hmm. OPRAH: Physical pain. Emotional pain.
ELIZABETH: Yeah. OPRAH: They're sick. Yes. Yeah. ELIZABETH: Mm-hmm.
OPRAH: But you did it. ELIZABETH: We did it together. OPRAH: Mm-hmm.