- I am here with Richard Sherman, cornerback
for the Seattle Seahawks, long time crypto-enthusiast,
and the spokesperson for COBINHOOD.
- Yes. - Thank you so much
for joining me.
- Thank you very much for having me.
- So can you explain to me what COBINHOOD is?
- COBINHOOD is a trading platform.
Like many others out there,
but it has no trading fee,
which for most people that'll save them a ton of money.
For me, it's saved me a ton of money
and I'm thankful for it because you get frustrated,
you feel like you're tradin', you're having a heck
of a day, and then you look up
and every transaction you've got a fee,
every trade you got a fee, every trade you got a fee,
and it's like,
you know what, it would be way better if I could do all this
and save my money on these fees.
So, I'm thankful for Popo, their founder, who came up
with COBINHOOD.
He's incredibly adept at understanding blockchains
and crypto and that whole world, you know.
I mean, when I speak to him I feel like a small fish
in a very, very, very big pond,
but I'm trying.
- And how does that business model work?
How do they make money if they don't charge
any transaction fee?
- Well they do a great job underwriting for companies
that are trying to create a coin, ICO,
or also marketing these companies and making sure
that they're seen and that, you know, their coin is getting
as much exposure as others.
So they make their money that way, so they, that's
how they save on these fees.
- And this is not the first crypto project
that you've been a part of, or interest that you've had.
How did you first get involved and when did that happen?
- Well honestly, and I hate tellin' this story
because it's frustrating.
So I have like a merchandise website, you know,
shirts and sweaters and things like that
for people who wanna support.
And, early on, I mean maybe like five, six years ago,
some of the fans were reaching out like, oh man,
we wanna pay in bitcoin, we wanna pay
in this digital currency.
And, I was kinda skeptical obviously.
It's like, just normal cash will do.
(laughs)
I mean, you know.
But one of our managers for the website was,
from Asia and he had heard of cryptocurrency and bitcoin
so he was more informed than I was.
He was like, yeah just go for it, just allow it.
I think you're gonna really like this.
I think it's a future.
And so we allowed it, for the most part though,
we just converted it back to cash unfortunately.
Yeah, so, if I could go back in time and not convert
that to cash, then sure I'd have a lot of bitcoin probably.
Millions of dollars.
- But is that regret what got you interested
and starting to research bitcoin and get involved
in the cryptocurrency?
- I mean, and not really regret, just kinda,
like I missed out.
You know, like I passed on the opportunity
where I could've done more research,
I could've really looked into it.
But I got into it.
I've made some money.
I've made $15,000 on it, but it could've been a lot more.
- What other cryptocurrencies have you looked at
other than bitcoin?
- I'm into ethereum and other coins
that come with that blockchain.
Obviously I've got a few bitcoin, like goin' out dabbling
as I've learned more.
And is it true you told your grandmother not to buy bitcoin?
- Yeah because with that situation, I'm tryin' to explain it
to her, you know, and I'm like, yeah it's blockchain
and ethereum is the ledger for the blockchain
and, you know, as I'm explaining it she's just like,
you know, just blank-faced like,
okay so how do I make money?
I'm like well, if the cost of the coin goes up,
and she's like, what happens if it goes down?
Then you lose money.
She's like, no, I don't wanna lose money, so make me money.
I'm like grandma you're not really listening.
You just don't mess with it.
Ima figure out,
let me figure out more on it.
Let me figure out how it works more, but, you know,
sometimes, teaching a person who is,
stuck in their ways about something new is very difficult so
I advised her against that.
- And would you, do you still convert all
of your merchandise sales that are made
in bitcoin directly to cash?
- No, no we don't do it anymore.
- You hold the bitcoin now.
- We'll hold the bitcoin now.
- Would you be willing to take your salary in bitcoin?
- I would be, as long as it equaled out to about
the same amount, you know, I'd take it in bitcoin.
It'd be hard for them to tax it which is always appreciated.
Hey, give it to me in bitcoin guys.
I don't know how to tax it.
It's not cash, so.
- Where do you think the bitcoin price should be?
- That I don't know.
I loved it when it was at $19,000.
It was awesome.
If it would like to go to $100,000 that'd be fine with me,
I wouldn't mind that, at all.
- Great, thank you so much.
(laughs)
- What about you?
- Me, I have no idea, I have no idea.
- Because it seems to fluctuate, I wish I knew
what was controlling the price.
When it, you know, they say,
the different factors that effect it,
but it just seems to be middling now
and going back and forth above 10, right below 10,
above 10, right below 10.
- Yeah, it's hard to find any real thing
to peg the value to.
- Right.
- Great, well thank you so much,
for sure. - Thank you for having me.
I appreciate it.