About a week ago, Representative
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talked
about the fact that during
the insurrection on January 6.
She was worried not only about
physical violence from the crowd
that was chanting that
they wanted to hang Mike Pence, but
that she was worried about sexual
violence as well.
Now many people know she has
talked about previously that she is
a survivor of sexual assault.
This is something that she both
knows about is rightfully afraid
of, but none of that is going to
stop someone like Tucker Carlson
from turning this into another
opportunity to attack the
representative, as you'll see here.
>> Cortez wasn't inside the Capitol
on January 6th, but she and Lindsey
Graham are on the same page.
We know that because occasionally,
Cindy Cortez tells us about her
lived experience on January 6.
During a recent special on CNN,
Sandy Cortez, did she ever stop
talking about herself by the way?
She explained she wasn't simply
afraid of being murdered by
Ashley Babbitt, she was also
worried about being raped.
>> There's a lot of sexualizing of
that violence, and I didn't think
that I was just going to be killed,
I thought other things were going
to happen to me as well.
>> So sounds like what you're
telling me right now is that you
didn't only think that you were
going to die, you thought you were
going to be raped.
>> Yeah, I thought I was.
>> Sexualizing and get a therapist,
honey, this is crazy.
These people were mad because they
thought the election was unfair.
Now you may disagree with that, but
it wasn't about you.
Surprise, surprise, sexualizing
the violence, I was going to
be raped by Ashley Babbitt.
Imagine some Republican ladies
saying that about a BLM Riot as
thousands of rioters to send it on
neighborhoods and burned businesses
all over the country.
Kenosha, Portland, Georgia,
Green Bay, Wisconsin.
What would happen if some Karen
said that you sexualized violence?
[LAUGH] Can you imagine?
Go the jail for that.
>> Well, he had that bizarre
chuckle, I personally found that
to be one of the most sickening
things I've ever seen displayed on
the mainstream media.
He will, of course,
suffer no consequences whatsoever.
The amount of time Fox
devotes to talking about him and
his thoughts every day will only
increase as well his paycheck.
But Adrian,
what did you think about all that?
>> Well, I thought it was very
ignorant of Tucker Carlson.
It really shows that he has no idea
what it's like to lose a woman,
particularly a woman who has
been sexually assaulted.
But it is always something that
plays in your mind being attacked
at all times.
That's why we carry keys between
our fingers when we are going
to our car,
we're always looking around.
Because the fact is that women
are always under attack.
And you had a group
of individuals who took issue
with the change in administration.
They weren't just taking issue with
Joe Biden, they were also taking
issue with Kamala Harris.
And the fact that there are more
women and diversity and change
being had, they do not want change.
There were predominantly a lot of
white males who were in there, and
also we've seen the incel
movement in rise.
And also for
Tucker Carlson to say that,
as a woman, she shouldn't have been
concerned about a sexual assault.
Because it was just about
people who weren't happy with
the election, get out of here.
Then why were those individuals so
comfortable throwing around the N
word and saying that they were
going to kill and murder people,
predominately who were black and
as a result of that.
So it's like get out of here.
This is the mentality of
these individuals,
it's about oppression and keeping
people in their place, individuals
like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
>> Yeah, Michael, earlier this
week, Tucker was saying, I don't
know why democratic congress people
won't come on my show.
They call me a white supremacist,
but I don't call anyone names.
Why not just talk to me?
I don't know, do you think,
should they be more open about
going on this
guy's show after what you just saw?
>> And Charlie Kirk earlier this
year tried to get
Congressmen Swalwell on by doing
the same thing, hey,
we're trying to show both.
And he said, you think that there
was an insurrection and
people died?
You don't think that there was
an insurrection and people died.
And so there is a real
disconnection on both sides.
But a few things here that
are wrong with what Carlson said.
First of all, and
Tucker Carlson knows this well for
having been doing this for
as long as he has.
Everybody knows that the Capitol is
not just the Capitol building.
It is the office buildings that
are connected by hallway and
by subway train, private subway
train just for the Capitol to
the main building of the Capitol.
There were people from
the insurrection that went into
the Congressional office building.
She heard footsteps,
there were police who went to her
office knocking on the door that
she thought were insurrectionists.
Nobody knew what was going
on that day.
So for her to feel that kind of
fear is totally normal and
totally natural.
And she was right because they
killed people that day.
So everything she says is right.
The other part of it is that Tucker
Carlson saying what would happen to
a Republican, well, if it was BLM?
You saw what happened in St.
Louis with the McKinney's standing
on their front lawn.
And they said that they were afraid
that they were going to be killed.
They did exactly that, and they
were lauded within the community so
much so that they're toying with
the idea of running for office now.
So they were elevated because
of the position they took.
They weren't excoriated for
it by a lot of people.
And so that sort of what if it
were, what have you noticed that
what if Obama did this thing?
No, it's unacceptable, and bravo to
Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez for
saying what she said in light of
the fact that she knew she was
going to get this blowback from
somebody like Tucker Carlson.
>> Yeah, I definitely agree.
I cannot imagine what women serving
government high profile positions
like her, Ilhan Omar must
experience on a daily basis.
I can only guess enough to know
that Tucker Carlson wouldn't make
it a couple of hours based on
how we reacted when protesters were
across the street from
his house and he freaked out.
Or when he contacted a foreign
national and the NSA looked at one
of his letters.
And so he spent a week talking
about how the NSA was trying to
shut down his entire show.
He's telling other people that
they're too sensitive and
that they never stop talking about
themselves.
But I knew when we played that
video last week, I just felt sick
not just because what AOC was
describing was so horrifying, but
I knew how the right would use it.
Because I posted a tweet about it,
and I got a couple of 100 responses
from lizard brain conservatives
attacking her, often sexually and
violently.
But no, but it's not about that.
But he knows his audience.
It's not sexualized,
it's not misogynistic, surely.
He just chooses to call her
Sandy when that's not her name, and
he calls her honey coming out of
the site even though that's insane.
Or saying that she should get
therapy because of course,
women are crazy.
And he just shows a photo of her at
random that he thought made her
look as crazy as possible, but
none of this is misogynistic,
this is all in her mind.
I know that the term gaslighting
has been thrown a lot around a lot
recently, but this feels like
a pretty classic example of it.
Yeah, he just chose that randomly.
I'm sure he makes up little
nicknames for Louie Gohmert when he
talks about him, too.
I know the whole thing just makes
me so sick.
Look, I haven't been watching Cable
News for 20 years or whatever,
maybe it was always like this.
Maybe you would work your base up
into a rabid froth of hatred
against people like this and that's
just the most expected thing.
But it feels sick,
it feels new to me.
I just knew that it was going to
come and he did not disappoint.
Well, we only have a couple
more minutes,
any final thoughts about this?
>> You know what?
It seems that something that
he's taking advantage of is also
the fact that he's conflating this
notion that rape and
sexual assault, sexual violence is
about sex as opposed to power.
And being
able to humiliate someone,
having that upper hand on them.
And the fact is that when he
conflates that and he just makes it
about sex, he trivializes it when
we know that that is not the case.
So essentially keeping his viewers
dumb, and
keeping them peddling these lies,
and that rape apologists kind of
mentality, that is something tucker
is also buying into.
Because as you have have observed,
these are his followers,
his audience,
the people that listen to him,
those people are incels,
they had issues with race,
they have issues with gender.
And as we're going to see is those
people are going to continue to
promote his ideologies in our
society and
it's just making us worse as we
continue to essentially regress.