turned away from that so you know it's it's it's an interesting thing
especially with the new clone wars and there had been story reels that were
released for the bad batch and and that's
changed you know since then it's it's interesting to see how some fans they
again they they're turning to the dark side because
they're they're sniffing out these they're they're finding conspiracies
where there are none where it's literally for example this whole thing
about padme nose art on a gunship um
that scene does not build off the new scene with padme and anakin
and the padman anakin scene does not build off the nose art scene you know
when you see them together in the cut you're like one's got to go because
you have this much time in the episode and you have to create
an impression that propels you forward in the story and when you have 12
episodes to lead to our finale which is a very
very eventful very epic huge huge huge finale with very specific story points
you can't have two points about padme that undercut each other it's got to be
one or the other with a with a definite uh color that brings you through that
gives you momentum in a in a direction a direction that brings
anakin into revenge of the sith not not a non-sequitur about nozar now
if we had two three seasons he could put the nose
out and another episode would be fine you know what i mean because it's a
really funny scene it's cute they came up with both scenes but ultimately
they don't build on each other the example i give is um
the scene with luke constructing his lightsaber and return of the jedi
and vader calling out to him and you get the feeling you get the story of like
oh my god ever since the empire strikes back the empire vader's been calling out
in the force and luke has been trying to purge that from his mind and he's
building a lightsaber it's an amazing scene it's an amazing moment
but it's not right for the movie because right if you knew we had a lightsaber
then there's no drama when he gets the lightsaber on the skiff and fights
on java's barge there's no drama there you know like the the whole thing of
grabbing the lightsaber and lighting up it's green which tells the
whole story and tells it at the right time
that's what you do and that's what filmmaking is that's what tv shows are
but i could show you guys cuts of i have old cuts of battlestar
galactica i have old scripts i have old cuts of being human episodes and
there are wonderful moments and sometimes they're great but then
when you see them back to back with other moments you're like these two
moments actually undercut each other we got to pick one
and you cut a scene so it's just it's funny to me though
that the fans their own you know some of them not
obviously not all of them stars fans are very sweet but there are people whose
own their own anger they're they're
they're whatever is going on in their life is being channeled
hardcore into these things and they're seeing conspiracies and censorship where
there just isn't any it's just the filmmaking process
and they're getting what what i would love
is for people to look at that filmmaking process and become interested by it and
be like man i'd like to do that you know rather than that's the you know that's
the way it was and they're changing the intent be like dude
it's not the intent until it comes out right and and if you don't
understand that these two moments undercut each other
maybe that's why you have a different job and dave has that job maybe
and you're probably better at your job than than dave is at that job
but he's actually better at you better than you it's storytelling
you know what i mean for me it was obvious i'm like you can't have both
it's like you know actually exactly what you're saying
is the way that the universe works you know there's we call it the wave
function right the wave function of probability there's a million things
but only one can be real right once once it's the the multiverse right yeah and
if the most fascinating thing about film and television
and making these stories is that talent isn't one isn't 2020 hindsight it isn't
um you know people making a youtube video about how how phantom menace could
have been better that's no talent there's no talent involved there because
you're seeing a finished product and then you're saying well it would
have been better if you nudged this or did that or did that
talent is being on a set there's money being burned
there's time being spent and you have a limited amount of time
and you're you're going the train is moving and making
more right calls than wrong calls when you're on the set
that's what talent is you know the the actors the directors the producers that
i've seen that pull off those moments and you
think it's so clear when you see the movie it's got music in it's got effects
it's all clear what it's supposed to be but it's never clear when you're doing
it it's never clear when you're making it when you're making it
you're making the best calls you can make and if you can make more good calls
than bad calls guess what you're talented you're good
at this yeah um but it's very funny i've definitely worked with people who are
you know huge on uh critiquing certain movies and saying no they
shouldn't have done that or they should guilt
that myself i i've worked with those people and the moment you start writing
something with them or you start working on this
and you and you notice oh they have no idea what they're doing
you're good at critiquing a final product but you don't know when you're
in the middle of this your instincts are no
no better honed than anyone's and it's only experience
in doing that that makes you better at making the right calls versus the wrong
i mean when you work with less experienced directors it's funny
because they're so white-knuckled and they're so afraid that they're going to
make the wrong call that when you make a suggestion to them they're like no
no then you work with someone like dave filoni who's more experienced
and you go dave i think maul should say this this and this and he goes
yeah because you think that maul's about that and it's all about your ego isn't
it sam but we can try it okay we can try it and
then we do it and he's like ah okay well maybe a little sith is
gonna make it in there after a while you never know you know
and then you find you know but that's the collaboration magic he'll give you
crap for it but then he will hear you out yeah
i mean there were there were some things in the finale that there was a whole
thing that i pitched i can't talk about it yet but there's a
whole thing in the finale very very important moment and i'm like
there's something bumping me about that and i couldn't describe
why because why the time time is rolling the train has left the station
we're all trying to get this done and we don't have time and i'm like and i got a
hold of dave a day or two before and i'm like it's bumping me i don't know why
and he's like you're overthinking it but then two days later we're recording
it and he goes oh wow i'm so glad you i'm just like
there's something there yeah yeah it is bumping what if it's this
he says and it was like a brilliant suggestion he came up with a brilliant
solution i'm like that is that's it and i didn't know why it
was an instinct in the back of my head something's not right about that it
could be better and then dave nailed it on the day
and that's talent nailing it on the day is talent it's kind of like you know you
can sing as well as you want in the shower
but then you get in front of an audience can you do it maybe not
yeah so look unfortunately we are also pressed for time
sorry you know but man this has been amazing i feel like we're just getting
started i have one last question for you about
about the dc universe all-star games but before i get to that
hopefully maybe you can find it in your schedule to come back after
the clone wars finale wraps and we can chat some more and uh
you know i'm sure you know we only got to two questions
so sorry of the 3 000 what is it wait wait wait wait the the
delegation of the 3000 that should be enough
for your committee is that what he says in the tweeted scene
when he tells padme to go i'm not i'm not sure i mean that's he's like
they're standing in his office and she's wearing that that interesting outfit
there are those there's another thing those scenes with a delegation that that
were against the war that we're trying to talk to palpatine great scenes
love them they don't belong in the movie but they're great scenes right
great pieces of star wars lore but you have to make those decisions