it's Saturday morning I've just grabbed
some camera gear from the studio I'm
gonna head out towards Hackney Wick for
an event today called uppers and downers
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tell me what uppers and downers tell me
what uppers and downers is all about up
and down it started about five minutes
ago near my friend Michael talking to
coffee beers and you know by the trend
and they're getting attention and a sort
of a sense of it could they be more
could they be more than just supporters
because that's most of why I hate coffee
beers fair and I should point out that
still generally I'm not a fan of coffee
beans
what the event has done it more into
over the years and so we kind of got top
hundred people together what a morph
into now is more of an to getting just
that getting coffee people together
the Brewers deed the industry and the
communities around them and looking at
how about we share that happens in
joining as an attendee I think it's just
delicious things something to kind of
like categories I did like
I gotta taste some of the best realtor
since what about screwing inland space
that's the general appeal that their
coffee beer isn't actually I think the
real cuts well what's appealing to them
something there tends to mean novelty
and what's often the case represents
ours is their beers that are made
special for the veterans right and I
think that's one in takings for me in
the beer world that seems to be a thing
that comes up that again something you
receive oh my god that's available that
recipe oh I have to take that right
don't feel about having a copy button
there you know because Jimmy D will make
a copy bloopers new next year sir
this is the second one in London and how
many be done in Chicago
yeah I mean the big vessel is this is
the first pumper big one here
colossal is kind of bad dipping our toes
in the water see if there's a divine
force how many different music 14:14
different maybe more so you think
someone - Thursday - I don't know if I
could drink that much I've never ever
drank everything ever the people who do
an acetal at the earth and last question
the single favorite beer you've tasted
at any one of these events this is my
merry fella so rubbish I mean I actually
really enjoyed this Perl her advice from
boundary and roaster Brown but M it's a
it tends to be out to say there's a
tends to be the ones that are much
lighter much more got a fresher zestier
more lively than anxious decadence kind
of like yeah he's a big big seems to be
such a and I think there's a cartels are
talking here too but like there is a
fetishes of a book they're here that I
think this startling turned it away
more appreciation for restraint and
balance and lightness philic finally
Foods is trending like like alcohol
levels are turning down in a way that
I'm very into yeah I can tell you
something that sort of new is every year
probably to make this more a but more
pointedly about coffee I'm here
that's about coffee here
okay that's cool yeah I think it's
really give it a broader appeal and it
also it actually been left for a while
but we have even talked to you there
about say hope that was encouragement
this is what it is
we ran out of it I don't feel this is
following this I punched the ideas I
wanted to do collaborations didn't
involve putting coffee in the beer but
they were a neat collaboration between
the roaster brewer so that would be
amazing
I think there's so many different things
that could be done where you take a
little learning and then apply it across
with the pink one idea I send it across
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