- [Pilot] Echo Six One Tango.
(radio beeps)
- [Pilot 2] Whoa! Got it! Roger.
- I mean, there's thousands of things besides this.
You're not even anywhere near how big this iceberg is,
you know, like seeing these things.
These are unnerving waters,
like, this is not the only thing that exists.
- Yeah, hello. My name is Tom DeLonge,
most people know me as the founder of
the popular rock and roll band called Blink-182.
I started a company called To The Stars that eventually
became To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science.
We are literally the group that is responsible
for why you read about UFOs in the papers today
without all the stigma.
It's the first time that we had
the videos properly declassified, and because of that,
then we had information as far as altitude and speed,
eyes on target, different radar systems,
different sensors that all corroborated what was happening.
So that gave us the ability to dissect these videos and
really have an understanding of what was going on.
I think this is going to cause our government and mankind
to really wake the hell up and start looking
at things that we never really even saw,
that was in front of our noses the whole time.
I've just kind of always been a dreamer,
but what really got me deep into it was
when Blink-182 was first touring,
we were in a van and there weren't iPhones,
there wasn't like this kind of like super fast internet
to watch movies and Netflix. There's books.
Like these ancient things called "books."
And I got these...a few books, that started to outline
these UFO events that were happening to pilots,
astronauts, presidents, it felt like a movie, you know?
So I'm in the van, I'm reading this stuff.
Oh my God, if 10% of this is true,
this is like the missing glue to all world events
going back as far as we, as we can think.
And you start wondering you're like,
"Was the Star of Bethlehem a UFO?"
I think we're, we're going to be into, you know, a pretty,
pretty amazing awakening
as we start really openly talking
about this stuff.
- We really want to know that we're not alone,
I think that would be the most compelling thing
about discovering aliens.
In this case, there's a very clear and definitive beginning
to the UFO phenomenon, which is Kenneth Arnold,
who is this guy who had the first UFO sighting.
He was a private pilot and he claims he saw a string of
nine shiny lights near Mount Rainier.
And he gets interviewed by a bunch of journalists.
Someone starts using the term flying saucer and it,
it starts to spread to the cartoons, you know,
"Take me to your leader."
It becomes an image that is embedded
in the culture so quickly.
And that seems to go with our sort of new, go ahead,
high-tech, Jetsons future that we seem to be moving into.
It just seemed to catch a moment, a mood,
maybe it had something to do with Cold War paranoia,
you know, fear of Sputnik, fear of the Soviets.
Maybe it was sort of a delayed reaction from
"The War of the Worlds," you know,
Orson Welles showing us how credulous we were
when it came to stories of aliens and alien invasion.
What else were we suddenly flooded with in 1947
and the years following that, but bad B movies
with science fiction, right?
You know, aliens landing and, you know,
everyone leaping off of the back of
"The Day the Earth Stood Still."
- But the issue of unidentified flying objects
is a very real one. Pilots do report seeing UFOs,
they report seeing strange lights in the sky,
and in a military setting,
that is something that needs investigating.
It doesn't matter what the end result is,
you know; perhaps they're seeing things
because there are alien visitors,
or perhaps they're seeing things because of a weird
atmospheric effect or perhaps there's, you know,
some kind of psychological issues going on, or some kind of
visual illusions or something like that.
It doesn't actually matter which one of those things
is the, the end result of the investigation,
but we still need to investigate those things.
- To suggest that aliens
are hovering around the planet in flying saucers,
or any sort of unidentified aerial craft,
that's just what, that they're, either they're among us,
or they have some sort of moon base, right?
To actually
spell out this hypothesis,
scientifically, you have to go so far, that then you,
you stick that explanation up against these very common
explanations we have for UFOs and UAPs;
the astronomical explanations,
which is that it's a planet, or a star,
or a meteor, or a satellite;
the civilian explanations that it's a balloon,
or it's a kite, you know;
the natural explanation is that it's flocks of birds,
or it's ice crystals, or even the human brain explanation,
which is that it's the autokinetic effect.
- The E.T. hypothesis makes no sense whatsoever.
You know, it's kind of like a bunch of cows
are on the ground and they see
these F/A-18 jets flying over.
Like the cow was like, "Oh, it must be coming
from a farm over there."
It's not thinking about like countries
and Air Force bases and whatever.
So I think we're a little bit like that,
you know, we're like cows and we're like, "Oh,
must be coming from Mars."
You know, it's just like, we're thinking so different.
And I think an advanced
intelligence
is manipulating frequency,
electromagnetics,
gravity when it applies,
time, you know, and consciousness.
I don't look at this and think, "E.T." I look at these as
displacement craft that are coming from parallel realities.
And that
is, is a really crazy thought.
My personal belief is that
we're going to find the answers looking in that way.
- So for the scientist, it's the question of
whether there's a small residue of
cases where there's sufficient data and it's inexplicable
in normal terms as an astronomy phenomenon or an atmospheric
phenomenon, that that's worthy of study.
Key to science is it's replicatable,
we don't believe in protons and, you know,
planets and other solar systems
because we saw them once and never again.
We believe in them because we can see them when we want to
and under lab conditions or controlled conditions
or repeated observations.
And that's so been missing from UFO studies.
There's just very little you can do with a one-off.
You know, if they've been visiting for 70 years
and flying around and all you have is visual sightings
or radar, or other sensors, that's a little strange.
Physical evidence, you can study in a lab,
you can pass it around to other scientists
and everyone can look at it.
And we've just not really moved into that realm.
So again, a lot of people are just saying, "Well,
just call me when we're there.
And don't talk, don't tell me about some sighting
or some unconfirmed, uncorroborated single event."