>> Harvey Weinstein was found guilty of two of the five charges that he was charged with.
He avoided the more serious charges that he was charged with.
As everyone knows, he's been accused by around 80 women of sexual misconduct, including charges
that go all the way up to rape.
From the hill, Weinstein was found guilty of a criminal sexual act and third-degree
rape.
Weinstein faces up to four years in prison on the rape charge, and between five and 25
years for the criminal sexual act charge.
He was acquitted on more serious charges of predatory sexual assault land rape in the
first degree, which could have resulted in a life sentence.
It's hard to find evidence on charges like that, because there wasn't physical evidence.
This had happened a long time.
But the fact that he was found guilty of some of these charges I think is a win.
>> Yeah, it's the sort of thing where, I guess, nobody can take for granted that there would
literally be any consequences.
I mean, he's very powerful and all that.
But this sort of thing never, I can only speak for myself.
He still did it all and the careers that were ruined, the lives that were irreparably changed,
some people will feel a little bit better and that's not nothing.
That's all that really can be acquired at this point.
But the damage is still done.
And so even this approximate justice can never feel totally just.
Because he got to live almost, what, 98% of his life that he will eventually have.
He got away with all of it.
>> Well, interesting, he wasn't using his walker I saw there, I don't know if he was-
>> Feeling better.
>> Feeling a little bit better, once- >> Get some ibuprophrin in his system.
>> Now that the conviction was handed down, he doesn't need the tennis ball walker anymore.
>> There was reports of, after the Super Bowl, he was back in the courtroom the next day
hung over cuz he had a party.
Again, it's another one of those instances of feeling like, hey, I'm this guy with this
kind of status and this kind of wealth, I got it.
And to a degree, like you said, I mean, it's symbolic that the more serious charges weren't
the ones he was found guilty of.
So it's like a skirt on those, but then something else is still gonna happen.
I guess we'll see where the sentencing goes.
But I guess it's a mixed bag because it could have been worse.
We've seen how people just completely get off from things they've done blatantly and
obviously.
But then they still hang this hat on the fact, well, those serious things, they didn't get
me on.
And he's already, what?
How old is he?
He's an old guy, and- >> I think he's in his late 60s.
>> Late 60s.
>> And he's lived a hard 60, I would say.
>> Yeah, he does not look good, and I don't really care about saying that, because-
>> That's a freebie.
>> Because he's despicable, disgusting, I mean every word that's negative you can say
about him.
Except if you are a guest on Fox News.
And I'm not saying she was saying he was a good guy.
But this Fox guest, Jonna Spilbor, she had some questionable comments about Harvey Weinstein
to say the least.
>> You believe you're surprised they convicted on what they did, explain that.
>> Yeah, okay, and I'll explain that, so I don't get stoned when I walk out of the building.
The defense in this case was based on one word, consent.
And I think the defense did an excellent job of trying to show that the accusers in this
case had ongoing relationships with Harvey Weinstein that any reasonable average person
would think was a consensual relationship.
And so when you look at, not the act itself that they testified to, but when you look
at what they did afterward, it just defied logic and common sense.
>> In sense that they still had a friendship or a relationship?
>> They had loving relationships, they would sign their emails, much love.
They reached out to him, they accepted gifts from him.
They wanted to get in contact with him.
They wanted to go to dinner with him after he forcibly raped them?
It doesn't make sense.
>> Yeah, it's almost like they had a power imbalance in the relationship and these actresses
needed him to get work the entire reason behind his predatory rapist behavior in the first
place.
>> Yeah, and also that is effectively a legal analyst saying these rape victims weren't
the rape victims I need them to be for me to believe them.
And one of the most frustrating things about doing this job, maybe you guys will agree,
is there are certain things that are simply facts.
And you state them, but you have to state them over and over, and over, and over again.
The fact that some people are sexually assaulted, and never report it, or are afraid to report
it, or aren't really sure exactly how to respond.
So, they send text messages the next day to that person.
None of those things stopped them from having been sexually assaulted, and we can acknowledge
that.
She's a legal analyst, the idea that she's never been presented with that information,
perhaps by victims of rape, is unimaginable.
And yet she goes on TV and continues to say to the almost overwhelmingly male audience
at Fox News.
Here are a bunch of reasons that you can use to not trust women when they say they've been
harassed or assaulted.
I'm just gonna list them for you.
You've been told otherwise, but here.
You can feel free to judge these women if any of these things are true.
>> Well, we already knows that she knows.
Cuz that's the first question, has she not heard about this?
Cuz 16 year old kids know this, to a degree, I mean, if they wanna listen to it.
So to go on Fox and then say this, you can tell that it's in the back of her mind, cuz
she says, I don't wanna get stoned when I walk out of that building for saying this.
Cuz she knows that there's a pushback for that narrative.
And I don't know if she means she doesn't believe it anymore cuz again, she kept having
a couple caveats, we'll get to that next clip.
To where, well, I'm just gonna say this and I know it's tough to say and I don't want
to get stoned when I come out and this and that.
So do you think that it's unnecessarily you'll get lambasted over this or do you think that
there's reason behind people getting upset about these things and just saying cuz you
know they don't make sense?
Or you just need to have your appearance on Fox be layered so that you can have a different
perspective?
>> Well, well, I doubt that's how she thinks.
I think they probably think it's the outrage machine and that they're all emotional and
not factual.
They're not looking at it in the lens that I am.
I'm being the legal, rational mind here.
And that's how she probably says these things to sleep at night and it's just completely
missing the overall picture.
But Fox News is the channel of victim blaming.
We saw it with Treyvon Martin, we saw it with every police shooting, we see it with women.
They are servicing the powerful, so they're gonna be more inclined to protect the interests
of the person who committed the crime than actually the victims themselves.
Pretty much sums up their moral bankruptcy just right there.
And she didn't stop there, she continued to couch her horrific statements in this appearance
on Fox News and even the Fox host seemed uncomfortable with it.
>> I think what they accomplished in court, what the prosecution accomplished in this
case is, the culture is now going to be different and kudos to them.
That is a very good thing.
We don't need to have people in positions of power taking advantage of that.
But at the same time, we need to make sure that women also take responsibility and not,
I mean, it's very hard to say.
A lot of these women wanted to get a foothold in their career.
And for that reason, they spent time with a man who later, they would accuse of rape.
>> Okay, are there- >> Yeah, that was a knowing, okay, wrap this
up, this is problematic.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, that was just like, so they wanted to get a leg up on their career, so they spent
time with this guy, who they would later find out was a rapist.
Okay, so they could have like never talked to him in the first place.
Like the bar that is set for other people's behavior when they are potentially at the
risk of their life and career being ended at the whim of a powerful man to so callously
and easily just set up those bars when you perhaps have never been in that situation
is just unimaginable particularly, can we just briefly mention that this conversation
is going on on Fox News?
Which was the site of basically a pyramid scheme of sexual assault and harassment for
literally years.
We just had a movie documenting how complicit the upper management of Fox News was with
exactly this behavior.
But man, they don't seem to have learned much from the amazing performances that we saw
there, because they've just gone right back to it.
Let's not acknowledge that we did this sort of thing and let's also spread the idea that
it was pretty much okay, at least understandable, when other powerful people in media were doing
it.
>> So there's this process of the approach she went to with the narrative of had the
women take responsibility.
We've heard this one too, so she hit both of them.
She's made sure to hit all the highlights.
And honestly, there's something to saying that to your close friend or family member
if you have a daughter that's going off, is going off to LA she's going to become an actress.
But listen, beware of the predatory type of force cuz the world is full of them.
I think it's okay to tell your friends and family that to help protect them like if this
guy is coming this way, get yourself with him I understand you wanna have this kinda
career, whatever.
That's something you tell your people in order to make sure that they're safe and nothing
happens to them.
Once something has happened to someone you don't have to start saying, hey, you should
take responsibility cuz he never would have done this if you didn't let them do it.
He's doing it.
That's who he is.
That's what he's been doing for as long as we've been hearing about this.
So I think Whoopi Goldberg did that with a, there was like an online influencer who some
pictures came out cuz it was in the cloud is one of those bus.
And she said, hey, just don't take these pictures anymore.
>> Right.
>> Whoopi won the lawasuit on her, right?
I get telling that to your daughter but going on TV and telling people not to do that because
then somebody's gonna get you for it.
That's one of the things we're deflecting all the attention, all the people who shouldn't
do it.
How often we're gonna start telling our sons at 15 years old, hey, son, I tell you what,
how about you don't do this rather than having to always tell, and I'm talking about publicly
rather than have to always tell women or victims of this man or woman.
Hey, you should have done something different, so this predator wouldn't have done that to
you.
How about we start telling the people before they become predators, hey, how about we stop
trying this whole predator thing?
Their response is never on that side.
>> And, I just saw on hashtag TYT live we got a message from Jess who says, I was ten
when I was sexually assaulted by a very close family member.
He lived in my house and I was forced to live with him for seven more years.
So that means it was my fault because I was forced to live at home?
I don't know, I guess we'd have to ask her but that certainly seems to be laying out
that, why didn't you run away?
Why didn't you do, all these things that a ten year old could ever imagine doing?
If you didn't do those things, I guess you don't meet the bar of the right sort of victim
for Fox News.