LAST NIGHT NICE WAS THE
TARGET OF YET ANOTHER DEVASTATING TERROR ATTACK, THIS
ONE COMING IN A UNIQUE FORM, A LONE MAN DRIVING A TRUCK THROUGH
A CROWD THAT WAS CELEBRATING
FIREWORKS.
IT WAS FOR BASTILLE DAY, FRANCE'S NATIONAL HOLIDAY.
84 PEOPLE WERE KILLED ACCORDING
TO THE LATEST.
IT WAS CONVICTED ONLY ONCE IN A CRIMINAL
INCIDENT.
>> EVERYTHING YOU READ IS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
BUT I READ THAT
HE HAD BEEN ñ.
>>I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME HE HAD BEEN CONVICTED.
>>THERE WAS SOME VIOLENCE ON HIS RECORD THAT I HAD READ.
>> HE GOT THROWN OUT OF HIS HOUSE FOR BEATING HIS WIFE.
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT IS WHAT I HAD READ.
>> NO INDICATION OF RADICALIZATION OR CONNECTIONS
THAT WE KNOW OF.
NOTHING THAT WOULD CLUE ANYONE TO THE FACT
THAT HE MIGHT COMMIT AN ATTACK OF THIS SORT.
WE DON'T KNOW AT
THIS POINT, OBVIOUSLY THE INVESTIGATION IS STILL ONGOING.
WE DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD RECEIVED
HELP IN GETTING HIS FIREARMS.
HE HAD AN ACTIVE GRENADE IN THE TRUCK.
>> THE STORY THAT THE TRUCK WAS LOADED WITH EXPLOSIVES, IS
THAT NOT TRUE?
>> THAT IS WHAT I INITIALLY READ, BUT THE RECENT INFORMATION
DOES NOT TALK ABOUT IT.
THERE IS JUST THE GRENADE THAT I HEARD.
THERE WAS AN EGYPTIAN NATIONAL QUOTED THAT HE SAW THE GUY
MIDWAY THROUGH THE ATTACK AND HE
YELLED AT HIM.
AND THE GUY TOOK OUT WHAT LOOKED LIKE A CELL
PHONE, BUT IT WAS A GUN AND HE STARTED FIRING AT COPS.
EVENTUALLY HE WAS SHOT BY COPS.
YES, 84 DEAD.
THE INCIDENTS
REGARDLESS OF SCOPE OR SIZE ARE
TRAGIC.
LOOK, IT IS THAT A CELEBRATORY FIREWORKS SHOW FOR A
NATIONAL HOLIDAY.
IT BREAKS YOUR
HEART JUST TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
ALL THE ACCOUNTS OF THE PEOPLE
ON THE GROUND SAYING THAT IT
LOOKED LIKE A WAR ZONE.
THEY WERE FAMILY MEMBERS DESPERATELY
TRYING TO FIND RELATIVES, JUST HORRENDOUS.
>> YEAH, IT'S HORRENDOUS BUT IT'S FUNNY ñ THIS IS HORRIBLE, I
HAVE FRIENDS WHO LIVE IN NICE.
YEAH, IT'S HORRIBLE.
ALSO ON
JULY 4 IN BAGHDAD THERE WAS A
TRUCK BOMB THAT KILLED 200 PEOPLE.
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DON'T ñ WE WEREN'T AS UPSET ABOUT THAT AS WE ARE ABOUT THIS.
WHY IS THAT?
>> BECAUSE WE IDENTIFY MORE WITH THOSE VICTIMS, THEY SEEM MORE
LIKE US.
IT IS WELL WORTH BRINGING UP WHAT YOU BRING UP.
DO WE VALUE THAT LIFE MORE?
IT IS A WORTHY QUESTION.
BUT I
DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO TEAR OURSELVES APART BECAUSE OF WHAT
IS CLEARLY HUMAN INSTINCT.
I SUSPECT THAT IN BAGHDAD, AND
AROUND THE MIDDLE EAST THEY ARE
PROBABLY MORE CONCERNED THAN WHAT HAPPENED IN BAGHDAD.
BUT
THERE IS A DEGREE OF ACCEPTANCE
FOR VIOLENCE WHERE WE EXPECT IT,
>> BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS TO US IT IS UNIMAGINABLE, AND WE ALMOST
FETISHIZE WHEN TERRORISM HAPPENS TO US.
>> SOME PEOPLE LITERALLY FETISHIZE.
SOME PEOPLE WERE SO THRILLED WHEN THIS ATTACK HAPPENED.
>>YES, THE ANTI-ISLAM PEOPLE.
YOU JUST KNOW THAT WHEN THEY SEE
AN ATTACK LIKE THIS THEY ARE LIKE OH, I CAN'T WAIT TO GET TO
TWITTER AND START TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ñ DO YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
MY POINT IS THAT AGAIN WE HAVE TO KEEP
EVERYTHING ñ I GUESS THAT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT WHEN IT
HAPPENS TO A WESTERN COUNTRY TO
PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE US, THAT WE KIND OF LOSE PERSPECTIVE.
I'M
TRYING TO GIVE PERSPECTIVE
BECAUSE WORSE THAN THIS IS HAPPENING EVERY DAY AROUND THE
GLOBE, AND A LOT OF IT WAS CAUSED BY THE DESTABILIZATION OF
THE MIDDLE EAST WHICH IS
DIRECTLY CAUSED BY US.
AGAIN, THIS GUY IS A MANIAC AND HE IS A
TERRORIST, OF COURSE, BUT LET'S TAKE A BIGGER VIEW FROM THIS.
AM
I WRONG BY SAYING THAT SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MAKES ME
UNCOMFORTABLE EVERY TIME
SOMETHING HAPPENS TO A WESTERN COUNTRY OR CIVILIZATION THAT
ISN'T AS BAD AS WHAT HAPPENS IN
OTHER PLACES.
IS SOMEHOW MORE SPECIAL.
I'M NOT SAYING IT ISN'T
HORRIFIC, BUT MAYBE WE CAN NOW
SEE HOW HORRIBLE IT IS TO US, MAYBE THIS WILL HELP US
UNDERSTAND HOW HORRIBLE IT IS UP
IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD.
>> THERE ARE SOME LEGITIMATE REASONS TO CARE MORE, BUT ALSO
SOME LEGITIMATE REASONS.
YOU KNOW PEOPLE THERE, PROBABLY MORE
LIKELY THAN YOU KNOW PEOPLE IN
BAGHDAD.
IT IS LITERALLY CLOSER.
WHICH IS WHY SOMETHING HAPPENS
IN YOUR HOMETOWN YOU FEEL STRONGER THAN IF IT HAPPENS
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT THERE IS PASSIVE NEGLECT WHERE THE MEDIA
IS LESS LIKELY TO COVER CERTAIN
SORTS OF ATTACKS.
THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE THAT DON'T ACTIVELY CARE
BECAUSE THEY DON'T CONSIDER THEM TO BE PEOPLE.
PEOPLE STILL THINK
OF BAGHDAD AS A WAR ZONE, AND HE
HAS BEEN THE SITE OF ANY NUMBER OF BOMBINGS.
IT IS A COMMON
OCCURRENCE.
BUT PLACES THAT ARE UNLIKE US TRADITIONALLY, BUT NOT
WAR ZONES, THAT BOTHERS ME MORE WINDOWS AREN'T COVERED.
I CAN
UNDERSTAND SOME NEGLECT IN A
ROCK.
PEOPLE THINK OF IT AS A WAR-TORN LAND, BUT IS SIMPLE IS
JUST A COUNTRY.
IT IS FULL OF PEOPLE LIKE US.
>>IT IS VERY MUCH LIKE US, THEY ARE SECULARIZED.
>>AND
BAGHDAD IS A WAR ZONE BECAUSE WE MADE IT INTO A WAR ZONE.
>> ANOTHER REASON YOU ARE RIGHT, MIKE PENCE TWEETED THIS IS A
REMINDER TO US THAT THEY ARE AT WAR WITH US IN THE WEST.
BUT FAR
MORE OF THE BOMBINGS AND DOUBTS
HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE AREAS SURROUNDING IT.
IF YOU
THINK THAT IT'S JUST COMING OVER TO US, HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY FIX
THE SITUATION?
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SITUATION IS.
>> YOU GUYS BOTH MAKE EXCELLENT POINTS.
JOHN, YOU ARE RIGHT.
IT
IS A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT HOW ULTIMATELY WITH FRANCE ñ THEY
ARE TO COME TREES THAT WE
IDENTIFY MOST WITH AMERICA, FRANCE AND ENGLAND.
>>MOSTLY ENGLAND.
>> BUT THE FRENCH WERE WITH US IN WARS.
BUT THERE IS NO MORE
VITAL ALLY TO THE UNITED STATES
THAN TURKEY.
THEY ARE WESTERNIZED.
SO WHEN THERE IS AN
ATTACK IN TURKEY WE SHOULD BE LIKE OH MAN, BUT WE DON'T
BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT.
JIMMY MADE A TERRIFIC POINT ABOUT HOW EVERY
AMERICAN NO MATTER WHERE YOU WERE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE IN 2003
ñ BUT
NO MATTER WHAT IF YOU ARE MIKE PENCE WHO STILL THINKS THE
IRAQ WAR WAS A GOOD IDEA, HE IS A CRAZY PIC.
NO MATTER IF YOU
ARE AN AMERICAN, THIS 200 PEOPLE KILLED, THEY WERE KILLED BY A
MESS THAT WE CREATED.
WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO NOT JUST CARE
ABOUT THEM, BUT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT
THING IS, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT.
WE CREATED THIS MESS NO MATTER
WHAT SIDE YOU ARE ON.
WE CLEAN UP OUR OWN MESSES.